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Guest Editorial: Are we ready for ‘Vision Zero’?

Posted by on February 21st, 2011 at 1:15 pm

[Publisher’s note: This article was written by transportation activist Alexis Grant and it was originally published on the Active Right of Way blog.]

A (small) part of traffic-1

(Photos © J. Maus)

At the annual Transportation Safety Summit on Tuesday, February 6, 2011, at Marshall High School, Mayor Adams started off the summit by asking “Why is safety our highest priority?” It may be a bit heretical of me, but the first question that came to my mind was “Is it? Really?”

What does it mean for safety to be our highest priority on the roads? Vision Zero argues that optimal safety means no loss of life:

No loss of life is acceptable. The Vision Zero approach has proven highly successful. It is based on the simple fact that we are human and make mistakes. The road system needs to keep us moving. But it must also be designed to protect us at every turn.

[For more on Vision Zero, read a Q & A we published back in October with noted traffic safety researcher and proponent of the concept, Peter Jacobsen.]

Are we anywhere near that point? We’re starting to speak that way at times: Mayor Adams said during his portion of the presentation that pedestrian fatalities “should be zero”. Portland Police Bureau Traffic Division Captain Todd Wyatt joined him, saying 26 fatalities among people walking is “still 26 too many”. Jason Tell, ODOT’s Region 1 Manager, said “It’s really about the people” Tom Miller, incoming PBOT director, said “The endgame as far as I’m concerned… is true choice for all of you… Today we have motor vehicle pretty well covered right? But we’ve got a lot more work to do for those traveling on foot, by bike, or those taking transit.”

“… safety is not currently the #1 priority of Portland’s road network. Movement is. Until we decide to change that at a systematic level, there won’t be “true choice” on Portland’s roads, for anyone, including the people getting behind the wheel of a car.”

But in practice, we’re far away from Vision Zero, both in tone and in numbers. There’s still an immense focus on personal responsibility by vulnerable road users: Mr. Tell said “Be visible”. Captain Wyatt spoke about how people riding should wear helmets, and blamed most crashes with walkers on the people walking.

And the streets are still not safe. In the U.S. in 2008, almost 4,400 people were killed and 69,000 injured while walking. Right here in Portland, on 82nd Avenue (one of ten high-crash corridors identified in a recent study), detailed investigation showed there was a crash more than once a day from 1997 to 2006. Forty-five percent of those crashes involved injuries or death (See PDF of 82nd Avenue High Crash Corridor Report).

A woman and a young boy attempt to cross
Tualatin Valley Hwy just feet from where
Bret Lewis was killed last week.

The measures suggested to improve the situation on 82nd included measures as lackluster as “Consider conducting a vehicle speed study.” “Increase enforcement at specific focus areas as staffing allows.” Funding is available for “Develop a letter campaign targeting businesses/property owners to maintain sidewalks, plants, etc.” but not for installing 2038 ft (about 0.4 mi) of sidewalks that would help pedestrians walk safely away from vehicle traffic.

Is safety our #1 priority? As long as we’re looking at a system whose responses to injury and death are “Consider” and “if funding allows”, I don’t think we can say that truthfully. Safety is an afterthought in a system designed “to achieve the efficient, free, and rapid flow of traffic”. When did the Institute of Transportation Engineers (ITE) lose their devotion to the second half of their mission: “Yet, at the same time, to prevent traffic accidents and casualties”?

A crash at Couch and Grand — the day
before PBOT installed a bike box.

And what’s the difference between the ITE mission and Vision Zero’s mission? Not a lot, on the surface; but both the order and the language are telling. Vision Zero starts by saying that no loss of life is acceptable, then acknowledges that the purpose of a transportation system is to enable our movement and says that the way to do this safely is to place the responsibility of protecting users on the system, acknowledging that human error is inevitable.

In contrast, the ITE mission speaks of rapid traffic flow first, and preventing casualties and “accidents” later. They don’t focus on the fact that errors are inevitable, but somehow believe that they can be eliminated. And American traffic engineers follow that order. They focus on optimizing traffic flow and measure their success in vehicle throughput and ‘Level of Service’. We don’t have a corresponding focus on measuring and optimizing safety, so we don’t have corresponding levels of safety. Instead, we examine the system after the fact to see where the safety is notably lacking, and try to fix things up. People die and are injured to show the rest of us that there are serious safety issues with our road system.

After-the-fact safety data collection clearly allows the city to take much-needed measures to improve safety. I’m as glad as anyone when a crossing that scares me gets a new treatment, a road is restriped to provide a bike lane, or a pothole I could break a wheel on is filled. (Confidential to Mayor Adams: smooth streets are safer streets.)

Some might say we have to start where we are. I’d agree. Let’s do that by acknowledging that safety is not currently the #1 priority of Portland’s road network. Movement is. Until we decide to change that at a systematic level, there won’t be “true choice” on Portland’s roads, for anyone, including the people getting behind the wheel of a car.

As Captain Wyatt said, no one gets in their car intending to kill someone — but our road network is designed so that a moment’s inattention makes that possible. Sweden’s Vision Zero is leading the way out of that. Are we ready to follow?

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    K'Tesh February 21, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    A comment on that photo of the woman and boy crossing TV Hwy…

    Unless something is done at that location to improve conditions for people trying to cross, or to completly prevent them from being able to cross there, I predict that Bret will not be the last vulnerable user of the road killed in that location.

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      jim February 21, 2011 at 2:08 pm

      If you look at the picture the lady and boy are jaywalking

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        K'Tesh February 21, 2011 at 3:48 pm

        It’s a legal unmarked crosswalk. The following is from

        “***Remember, under Oregon law there is a
        crosswalk at every intersection.***

        Do not pass a vehicle stopped at a
        crosswalk. A stopped car may be a clue
        that a pedestrian is crossing.

        When stopping for a crosswalk on a multi-lane
        road, you should stop about 30 feet before
        the crosswalk so you don’t block visibility
        to a driver in a second lane.

        When stopping at an intersection, do
        not block the crosswalk. This forces
        pedestrians to go around your vehicle and
        puts them in a dangerous situation.

        Watch for pedestrians, especially children,
        when exiting driveways or when backing
        out of parking spaces in parking lots.

        Pedestrians move at different speeds. Be
        alert for children who may suddenly dart
        into the street. Be patient with older adults
        who take extra time to cross the street.
        Around taverns and bars, be alert for
        people with slowed reaction times or
        impaired judgment.

        ***Be alert for people or animals during lowlight
        conditions, especially in areas where
        they are likely to cross the road, or you
        might not see them until it is too late to stop.***”

        So, they are not “Jaywalking”

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          rigormrtis February 22, 2011 at 9:31 am

          That does not make it safe or responsible.

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            mabsf February 22, 2011 at 11:13 am

            So, what are they supposed to do? Hike up and down the street to find a place to cross? …and as we know from several death on marked cross walks, that’s still not save…
            From the photo it looks that the made sure that there was no car…

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        peejay February 21, 2011 at 4:33 pm

        The whole concept of “jaywalking” only came into existence after the automobile had won the battle for the streets, circa 1930. Prior to that, people had the right to use the entire street as they saw fit, and those in cars had the responsibility to maneuver around them. This responsibility was felt to be too much a hindrance on “efficiency”, so people on foot were restricted to certain portions of the road. Thus, jaywalking.

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          Joe February 21, 2011 at 7:40 pm

          man dude thats some sci-ence. love it

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        wsbob February 21, 2011 at 5:40 pm

        They might be jaywalking, but it’s probably not illegal. Some time back here on bikeportland the question of the legality of jaywaking came up. A reader did some digging around, and found that in Portland, mid-block crossings are illegal if they’re within…I think it was 100′ of a crosswalk (I’m vague on this.). Portland’s blocks are 200′, so you’d be fine crossing there, exactly mid-block.

        People are saying the pic of the woman and child is showing a location on TV highway near Tuallaway Ave, which is Beaverton. That would be about a thousand feet from the nearest crosswalk, which is signaled. People on foot, and living around there got to get across the road somehow. Does society really want to say to them ‘You can live here, but you’re on your own getting across the safely on what is many was a freeway.’?

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          wsbob February 22, 2011 at 10:31 am

          I didn’t realize until today that I made such a grammatical mess of the last sentence in my comment above. I’m fixing it up to the following:

          “… Does society really want to say to them ‘You can live here, but you’re on your own getting safely across what is in many ways, a freeway.’ “.

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    are February 21, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    good work, alexis, thank you.

    note to jonathan: the cutline under the third photo suggests that the green box might have prevented the crash. unless this crash occurred immediately after the signal changed from red to green, i would suggest that the green box would have had zero effect, and/or could contribute to the problem by reinforcing the idea that a cyclist should ride to the right of motor traffic on this section of couch.

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      Jonathan Maus (Publisher/Editor) February 21, 2011 at 1:40 pm


      I think you are reading into that caption because you have strong personal opinions about that specific issue. I’m merely stating that a crash occurred at a location that PBOT knew was dangerous, so much so that they had identified it for a bike box — which they installed shortly thereafter.

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        are February 21, 2011 at 4:36 pm

        and i am saying that if PBoT was focused on vision zero they would not be putting up this window dressing which does more harm than good.

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    nothstine February 21, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    Only a tiny bit OT: Interesting article in Feb 2011 Outside, on the psychological dimension of cycling safety Extended discussion of Portland’s efforts.

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  • Michael, Portland Afoot
    Michael, Portland Afoot February 21, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    I love the skepticism, Alexis, but I’m skeptical in turn of Vision Zero.

    Do we really want safety to be our top priority? Aren’t there some things in life more important than extending it?

    Should we ban dishwashers because people stick upward-facing knives in them? If not, and part of “acknowledging human error” includes “accepting small levels of danger,” then isn’t the “Vision Zero” language deceptive?

    Or does this only apply to transportation? In which case, how can we justify devoting more public resources to transportation while letting people die (or acquire lifelong disability) for lack of preventative health care?

    I want to be safer on the streets than I am — no question. But safety has to be weighed against other considerations, doesn’t it?

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      are February 21, 2011 at 4:23 pm

      i am with alexis on this one, michael, though i did enjoy the link to the mail, with the sidebar celebrity gossip, and the weird backstory on the incident with the knives. there are other reasons to get rid of automatic dishwashers, and oddly it does link up to vision zero. how have we let the built environment become so unfriendly to pedestrians and bicyclists (and children and kittens)? “progress.” maybe we do need to reset our priorities. not eternal life, okay, but is road carnage how we want to limit population growth?

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      Jack February 21, 2011 at 8:21 pm

      The difference between the dishwasher incident and traffic on public roadways is the public factor.

      I know and trust myself and those in my household to not leave knives lying around in dangerous places.

      For my own safety, I can only trust every other road user as if they are the least responsible road user out there.

      To oddly quote Tommy Lee Jones from Men In Black, “A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.” Let’s have some of those smart persons design a system to move people, taking into full consideration that those people are dangerous animals.

      And lets hold those smart people accountable for their work. There’s no such thing as an unpreventable traffic death. If Vision Zero becomes the DOT’s mission statement then any traffic death is a failure by the DOT.

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    Vladislav Davidzon February 21, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    The question on hand is about design priorities. Right now the big dead deer in the middle of the table that everyone wants to ignore is the fact that the only design intention for our infrastructure is minimizing cost while maximizing speed with which we get objects from point A to point B.

    The thing is that when it comes to our engineered landscape, of course safety ought to be the first and primary concern when faced with a reality of the stunning level of carnage on our currently ridiculously designed infrastructure.

    Functionality is the ultimate measure of good design, and I’d argue that absolute safety is an absolute requirement to good functionality. It’s not that safety necessarily has to compromise any other element — it just has to be considered equally with the other factors. There is a story that safety is expensive or that safety means slowing down getting objects from point A to point B. This is where good design comes into play — and good design should mean design without compromises.

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      wsbob February 21, 2011 at 5:27 pm

      “…Functionality is the ultimate measure of good design, and I’d argue that absolute safety is an absolute requirement to good functionality. It’s not that safety necessarily has to compromise any other element — it just has to be considered equally with the other factors. …” Vladislav Davidzon

      That’s about right. Safety is and should be a top priority in transportation infrastructure concept, design and realization, but not the only one. To be successful, what’s built, in addition to being safe, has got to work.

      What we’ve got today, with hundreds and thousands of motor vehicles zooming at high speeds alongside pedestrians trying to make their way down 4 foot wide sidewalks, doesn’t exactly work. It isn’t particularly safe either. Well sure…it can be done and is done, but the hazards are all too apparent, like the worst part about going kayaking in a crocodile populated river. As a result, millions of Americans have not been persuaded to go there.

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    Martha R February 21, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    Part of the problem with current engineering standards is that there are plenty of measures applied to optimize the movement of motorized vehicles (level of service, delay, out of direction travel required, volume to capacity ratios, etc.), but no similar measures exist or are used for optimizing bicycle or foot traffic. As a result, traffic signals are located and timed to optimize motorized vehicles. Bicyclists and pedestrians just have to put up with what they’re given (and are told to dress in bright colors, wear helmets, etc.). That makes bike/ped travel more difficult and more dangerous, and also creates the “they don’t belong on the road so it’s their own fault if they get hurt” mentality.

    Once we start creating and applying real engineering standards to bike/ped travel, we might start to find solutions. For example, I would assume that the woman and boy in the picture are crossing TV Hwy at that point because the out-of-direction travel required to walk to a signalized crossing, plus the delay they’d face while waiting for the “walk” sign (I doubt the nearest signal is optimized for pedestrians), plus the danger they’d face from turning traffic even when given the “walk” signal all make it worth the risk to cross where they’re crossing. After all, lots of pedestrians are killed in crosswalks, too.

    Even though some of our streets have bike lanes and sidewalks, our traffic engineering mantra is to keep motorized vehicles moving. Yes, engineering standards need to optimize safety first, but there also must be standards that put the optimization of bike/ped traffic at the same priority level as the optimization of motorized vehicle traffic. Once all traffic is treated with equal respect, then we might be able to start moving towards safety.

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    Alexis February 21, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Thanks for the comments, everyone.

    I want to add that it looks like one of my links went missing, to the 82nd Ave study: [PDF]
    This is where I got my numbers for the crashes on 82nd.
    And another link that might be helpful, which I found in one of Jonathan’s articles about the high crash corridors:
    This shows the intersection and corridor crash data from the City that led to the high-crash corridor designation.

    Michael – It was Mayor Adams who suggested that safety not only should be, but indeed *is*, Portland’s #1 priority. My musings are more about what it would be mean for that to be true. What’s optimal safety? What does it mean to prioritize it, and are we ready to do what’s necessary to do that?

    I’m also disappointed in your rhetorical use of false dichotomy with healthcare and the assumptions behind it. Doing transportation better does not intrinsically mean doing healthcare or anything else the same or worse. There’s no intrinsic connection. (Though we might incidentally do healthcare better, in that we wouldn’t need to devote as many resources to treating people injured in transportation-related crashes.) Nor does Vision Zero necessarily mean devoting more money to the transportation system; it may simply mean allocating the money we use in a different way.

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      Patrick Croasdaile February 21, 2011 at 4:19 pm


      Thanks for your insight.

      I believe that a safer society is a healthier society.

      @Vladislav Davidzon
      ‘Functionality is the ultimate measure of good design, and I’d argue that absolute safety is an absolute requirement to good functionality.’
      -Couldn’t have said it better.

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    • Michael, Portland Afoot
      Michael, Portland Afoot February 21, 2011 at 5:43 pm

      Alexis (and Vladislav) I haven’t read much of the Vision Zero literature so I may be misinterpreting it.

      But how many ways are there to interpret the phrase “no loss of life is acceptable“? Let alone the brand name “Vision Zero”?

      My interpretation of this matches Vladislav’s language above: “absolute safety.” This isn’t the same as optimal safety! To use an extreme example, a safety absolutist would say that making something 1% less deadly is worth doubling the cost of a project.

      You say that making transportation better is unrelated to making healthcare better. I don’t agree at all. Our society has a limited amount of aggregate wealth that can be used to solve its problems. If, for example, a certain transportation policy were to reduce our GDP by 0.1 percent nationally, that’d be 15 billion dollars a year that couldn’t be spent on things like fixing rotator cuffs.

      I’m not saying that bike-safety improvements (for example) are a bad use of our money. I’m saying that if we were to spend enough on them, eventually they would be. This view seems incompatible with Vision Zero as I understand it.

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        Alexis February 21, 2011 at 10:41 pm

        I would suggest reading up a bit more before you keep arguing from your imagination of how it would work. 🙂

        I’m not sure why you’re stuck on the false dichotomy. It’s a fallacious argument type (see for this and others) As a society we have a large amount of resources available; acting as if those devoted to transportation are zero-sum with those devoted to healthcare is just nonsense, especially considering the point I made that fewer transportation injuries (and an environment more friendly to all road users) means reduced healthcare costs.

        In fact, Jonathan has posted two recent articles about the positive connection:

        Vision Zero does not suggest infinite investment in transportation as far as I’m aware. There are a number of mechanisms for evaluating what kind of investment makes sense. Here’s a PDF of a paper by one of the keynote presenters at TCC IX last year, John Whitelegg, which addresses cost-benefit measurement:

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        • Michael, Portland Afoot
          Michael, Portland Afoot February 22, 2011 at 12:37 am

          Alexis, I may have confused the issue by using healthcare as my example of an alternative way to spend money. Whether bicycle use helps or hurts public health (I think we can all agree it does) is irrelevant to whether Vision Zero offers a good way to prioritize transportation improvement.

          On the question of whether Vision Zero requires absolute preservation of life at all cost, are you saying I’m confused? I don’t think I am. From the paper you link:

          “It can never be ethically acceptable that people are killed or seriously injured when moving within
          the road system.”

          Seems pretty clear-cut. The paper’s analyses start with the assumption that road deaths can be brought to zero.

          If I’m reading it right, the cost-benefit analysis in the paper you link doesn’t suggest ways to analyze any given transportation design decision. It analyses the costs and benefits of a wholesale shift to the Vision Zero approach. And from what I can tell, its estimates of the cost don’t include:
          – the opportunity costs of public investment (what if we spent the money on a school instead?)
          – the value of lost freedoms (such as the right not be subject to random breathalyzer testing, something I hope would be unconstitutional in the US)
          – the intangible economic and associated losses associated with less mobility

          I think my argument is pretty much the same as this Elvik guy, as described on pages 13-14:

          “the possibility of a greater effort to eliminate traffic fatalities being counterproductive in terms of overall mortality cannot be ruled out”

          … except that if I were choosing the yardstick, I wouldn’t even choose mortality. I’d choose happiness.

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          • Michael, Portland Afoot
            Michael, Portland Afoot February 22, 2011 at 12:44 am

            By the way, I’m glad to get this argument over with. (At the cost of staying up late!) It’s been my private reaction to Vision Zero for two years or something. I’m hip-deep in these opinions, so I’m glad to have to look around.

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            Alexis February 22, 2011 at 1:52 pm

            The Vision Zero website itself actually notes that mobility has increased in Sweden, although they don’t provide support for it on the site other than showing that traffic increases as road deaths go down. This is another example of a potential false dichotomy: mobility or safety? What about mobility and safety? There are a lot of comments here assuming that’s not possible, but I’m not aware of any compelling evidence that it’s impossible.

            I do want to reiterate that it’s Mayor Adams who was using the “safety is our #1 priority” language. I’m saying it’s not currently, and asking whether we are ready for it to be. Shifting to safety as our #1 priority requires more than just saying it is. It would be a huge shift in our approach to roadway design, funding, etc. It’s obvious that it’s a huge shift from the comments here — some people don’t accept the idea that (soma/any/all) road deaths are preventable, others immediately think that they are only preventable with ridiculous prevention measures (that seems to be where you are), and others are highly reliant on the idea of personal responsibility to prevent crashes, without considering some or all of the effects of the system on individual behavior.

            My personal view on Vision Zero is still evolving. I love the concept of shifting responsibility to system design (acknowledging human fallibility) and I find the idea that death and serious injury as a result of transportation are completely unnecessary very appealing.

            The completely-unnecessary part may address the dishwasher-type argument you were making above. It’s not necessary for anyone to have issues with knives in the dishwasher. Some people do anyway, because they do something so dumb/dangerous that the generally sound engineering of the system can’t help them. We can decide how much we want to help with that, but we all agree that no one needs to, or ought to, die because of a knife in the dishwasher. It’s considered a freak accident that only happens in rare circumstances. If we got to that point with traffic deaths, I think that would be pretty awesome.

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          Aaronf February 22, 2011 at 9:27 am

          I would suggest a little humility on your part. 

          The ($155 million) paper you link to in order to demonstrate a “positive connection” between active transportation and health care costs actually clearly states in the limitations section that there is no correlation established in the study, and the author even chimed in to say his numbers were really rough… (basically made up, when you look at all of the limitations)

          Did you even read the study?  Did you understand it?

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    Vladislav Davidzon February 21, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    @Michael – we certainly shouldn’t ban dishwashers, but warning stickers are certainly warranted and so is better engineering that could prevent people from being able to leave knives in an unsafe position.

    I guess to me it’s annoying that the bar set for engineering in this country is so low. If safety was a serious consideration across the board (together with things like end-of-life reuse, etc.) we would see quality of life in this country skyrocket again.

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    adamdoug2011 February 21, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    nothing will change until we reclaim our city government. My feelings about the mayor are well known.

    We need Amanda Fritz to stay on and AT LEAST two other real people to win commissioner seats in order to get any real safety. any volunteers? all you need is 1000 friends to give $5 each and you can get city funding. there is simply no excuse to be “lead” by “men” like the current Mayor.

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      Evan Manvel February 22, 2011 at 9:25 am

      Unfortunately, voter owned elections were voted down last November, so you don’t just need 1000 people at $5 a piece. There’s no city funding for election campaigns any more.

      It’s back to the traditional fundraising structure, which usually means a fair number of $500-$2500 checks from some city heavy hitters, along with a host of smaller checks from others, and some funding from PACs.

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    Carter February 21, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    The only way to prevent transportation-related fatalities is for everyone to stay home.

    The airline industry has achieved near-zero fatalities by rigorous and expensive inspection, licensing, and control of every aspect of flying. That suggests a way to get to the same point with ground transportation. Require yearly drivers’ tests, fence off all roads and streets from pedestrians, place signal-operated gates on all crosswalks, and employ lots of police to monitor all aspects of driving, walking, and biking.

    If we are not going to do that, let’s admit that safety is not and should not be our top priority. Too much safety is not compatible with freedom.

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      Joe February 21, 2011 at 7:42 pm

      woot.. dang feeling this

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    Paul Hanrahan February 21, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    I think a big factor in this safety talk is the automobile itself. The tools are out there to make the car safer, equipped with sensors that can react to stop the vehicle far faster than a human can. Sensors that know when a driver becomes distracted and takes his eyes away for a protracted amount of time. Sensors that will not allow the vehicle to go faster than the posted speed. It will be difficult to make every street in the country (or world) designed safe enough, but the vehicle can be greatly improved. Too bad our political leaders have no balls to require these things from car manufacturers, unless we make them.

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    drew February 21, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    For the last 80 years, the ped or bike is assumed at fault in a crash unless proved otherwise. It’s a freakish twist of logic to automatically put the blame on the entity with the lowest amount of kinetic energy.
    Drivers are not expected to consider that there may be an escapee from the alzenheimers unit in the middle of the road, and no citation would be issued when the driver smashes into them.
    It would be very different if motorists can be assumed to be at fault unless proven otherwise. If the driver could actually be held responsible for the mayhem caused by careless driving, it just would not happen as much. This kind of shift in the social construct is not likely to happen soon, but it is worth fighting for.

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    Kevn Wagoner February 21, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    How do we fact check this? I am having a hard time believing it is that bad.

    “Right here in Portland, on 82nd Avenue (one of ten high-crash corridors identified in a recent study), detailed investigation showed there was a crash more than once a day from 1997 to 2006. Forty-five percent of those crashes involved injuries or death.”

    I mean that is insane. I would have never ever guessed it is that dangerous. We are truly complacent and safety is not number 1, If that is true and we don’t have an action plan to resolve it.

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      Alexis February 21, 2011 at 10:44 pm

      Kevn – it looks like my link to the 82nd Ave study got lost originally. I posted the link to the PDF on the City website in one of my comments above. Do check my math, though I don’t think I miscalculated – I was appalled as well. Also, be aware the data is 1997 through 2006, and there has been an overall decline in recent years.

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    resopmok February 22, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    “Today we have motor vehicle pretty well covered right? But we’ve got a lot more work to do for those traveling on.. ”

    To me, this sounds like failure to understand the source of danger on the roadways. The roads are completely safe by themselves. It’s the addition of cars and other speeding motor vehicles that makes them unsafe. So no, they are not well covered, they are still killing people every day on the roads of this country.

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    PorterStout February 22, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    You can’t expect infrastructure and equipment to compensate 100% for risky behavior on the part of riders, nor should we pay exorbitant amounts in the futile attempt to do so, as others have noted above. It does no good having a stop sign at Flint and Broadway (a clearly marked and understood safety measure) when riders blithely ride through it right into Broadway traffic. I’ve personally witnessed at least two crack-ups right at that location, where the vehicle had the right of way. I’m by no means saying the system can’t be improved but the rider has to take ownership of their safety too. Let’s not pretend all problems are because we’re not spending enough money.

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      are February 22, 2011 at 1:43 pm

      if the motor vehicle is not turning right onto wheeler or ross, there is usually room for a cyclist coming off of flint to make the turn into what is, after all, a striped bike lane. not saying i would ever do this, but the logic is not entirely absent. the crackups maybe come from motor vehicles not signaling the right turn. but since i pretty much expect motorists not to signal turns i do stop there and wait for cross traffic to clear entirely from the right travel lane. and then i claim the travel lane all the way down to larrabee.

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