Protestor blocks bus and bike lanes on Division with his car

The organizer of a protest on Southeast Division Street Friday brought a gun with him — and proceeded to hold it in his hand as a counter-protestor rode up to his car. The incident was caught on video (watch it above) and happened prior to the protest while the organizer of the event sat in the front seat of his car with the window rolled up.

The man behind the “Just Say No To PBOT” protest was Randy Philbrick, a self-described public safety specialist and former EMT and private security guard. Philbrick (under the name Portlanders For Positive Impact) said he feels the addition of a bus priority lane and protected bike lane on SE Division (a joint project by TriMet and the Portland Bureau of Transportation) is unsafe. He and a few other supporters who joined him Friday, also feel like the City of Portland has not adequately listened to their concerns.

When news of the gun spread on Twitter over the weekend, many people reacted with fear and indignation (it didn’t help the situation that I carelessly tweeted a selfie with Philbrick after we finally had a conversation at the end of the event — it’s a long story). The man Philbrick unholstered his gun in the presence of was Garrett Miles, who organized a counter protest and who had been going back-and-forth with Philbrick on Twitter since the event was announced. Miles called the police immediately. They responded and talked to both men, but the police did not take any actions. According to Miles (who I interview in the video), the police said it’s not against the law for a legal gun owner to have a gun in their possession and it’s not considered “brandishing a weapon” if it is not pointed at someone.

In an emailed statement after the event, Miles wrote,

“While I don’t believe Randy is a horrible person, I still don’t think he should have organized this protest in the manner that he did (by parking in the bus/bike lanes), and I definitely don’t think he should have brought, let alone brandished, the gun at me. Randy has a right to his opinions and I love debating with him on Twitter, but the gun and illegal parking of his car put lives in danger.”

For his part, Philbrick sees the incident differently. In a statement after the event, Philbrick wrote,

“His account isn’t what he’s saying. Having had threats of violence against me and my car, him riding up on me wasn’t his best move. Not knowing his intentions, I did unholster my gun and laid it on my center console just in case. I never pointed it at him, nor did I chamber a round as he told the police. I know the consequences of those actions. He’s embellishing the facts to play the victim and an attempt to defame my character.”

As to why the police didn’t cite Philbrick for blocking the travel lanes? Miles said they likened it to a protest similar to the Black Lives Matter events of 2020. In the case of the racial justice protests, police did allow some of them to block traffic, but others were brutally cracked down on with tear gas and riot squads.

Once the protest began, Philbrick stood silently outside his car in the red bus-only lane and protected bike lane as busy afternoon traffic roared just a few feet away. On several occasions, drivers tried to make a u-turns and would have to stop and reverse as they came up on Philbrick.

Eager to hear Philbrick’s perspective, I approached him multiple times and asked questions. But he ignored me and refused to answer. He also did not engage with counter-protestors. Philbrick maintains that since our story about his event went up he has received threats from multiple people. At the protest, he felt engaging with them would lead to confrontations.

For the first hour and 45 minutes or so, Philbrick stood by himself as counter-protestors tried to engage with them. Some heckled him and argued against the traffic safety ideas he’s shared online. Across the street, a group of about 7 counter-protestors stood holding signs. Bike advocate Kiel Johnson made several of them and passed them out to others.

“It’s so unfortunate that this guy is blocking the bike lane,” Johnson said. “He’s making it a lot more dangerous for people to ride down the street. And he’s also blocking the transit lane, which is going to affect a lot of transit riders. I’m glad that he’s the only one who showed up to this doesn’t seem like he has very much support at all.”

Eventually a few folks did show up to support Philbrick. One of them (and the only other person to join him in the “park in” was Fatima Magomadova, owner of a market a few blocks away and one of the loudest critics of the changes on Division.

Magomadova said the design only makes things worse. She thinks the bus lane isn’t needed and that bicycle riders don’t belong in the street. But it’s the center median that Magomadova reserves her strongest critique.

“They [the median islands] are absolutely unsafe,” Magomadova shared with me during an interview in the street. “Because you have to do all these u-turns. They are frustrating drivers, there is congestion and traffic, and there’s a huge chance that your car cannot make it… I have videos where trucks actually get on top of the medians, and cars flipping over medians.”

If Magomadova had her way, SE Division would have more room for drivers, and no bike riders at all. “It is not safe for the bicyclists to use this bicycle lane,” she said. “What is safer would be able to have a wider sidewalks where they can ride their bicycles on a shared sidewalk. We have to u-turn into the bike lane. If there is a bicyclist [while a driver is u-turning], we’re going to kill him.”

Meanwhile, several bicycle riders rolled by the protest. One of them told me, “I think this protest is ridiculous. Division is already a dangerous street to bike on. And the addition to the bike lane and making it more protected is a great thing to do. Making the street more dangerous as a form of protest doesn’t seem to make much sense to me.”

After the tense moment with the gun prior to the start of the protest, things were relatively chill. There was one shoving match between a supporter of Philbrick’s and a counter protestor, but it didn’t escalate to punches.

As the hours wore on, the differing factions came closer together and, while the conversations were heated, at least folks were listening to each other and hearing a different perspective. Maybe some learning and understanding happened. Maybe not! I personally put down my camera and got involved in some of the debates myself.

I stayed until the very end. And just before he hopped in his car and drove away, Philbrick came over to me. I was surprised, since he’d refused to talk all day. Yet suddenly, he was very willing to talk off the record. I agreed. We shared our perspectives on traffic safety and agreed to disagree on several points. He said he’s serious about wanting to make things better and hopes that he can work with myself and other advocates in the future. I didn’t make any promises; after all, this is a guy who I’ve ignored online for months because of how rude and toxic some of his posts have been toward me and BikePortland (I also don’t agree with his approach to traffic safety). But after our chat, and in a moment of joy from making a communication breakthrough with someone who just hours prior I was yelling at and being ignored by, I tweeted a selfie with Philbrick. I thought it would be helpful, but many people were offended and shocked that I would sanitize a guy who showed up to a protest against a bike lane with a gun. It was a careless mistake I should not have made, and I have since deleted all the tweets about it.

What a bizarre protest and strange few days.

Hope this video and additional context has been helpful. If not, ask me anything in the comments below — and/or I’ll see you at Happy Hour this week (Weds, 3-6 pm at Gorges Beer Co, SE Ankeny and 27th). Stuff like this is really hard to talk about online and I’d love the opportunity to explain things in person.

Jonathan Maus (Publisher/Editor)

Jonathan Maus (Publisher/Editor)

Founder of BikePortland (in 2005). Father of three. North Portlander. Basketball lover. Car owner and driver. If you have questions or feedback about this site or my work, feel free to contact me at @jonathan_maus on Twitter, via email at maus.jonathan@gmail.com, or phone/text at 503-706-8804. Also, if you read and appreciate this site, please become a supporter.

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Dave
Dave
9 months ago

I wasn’t there, so I’m just spectating from the sidelines. Reading about the “protest” and skimming through social media accounts of those involved lead me to believe this should’ve been called the “Philbrick and Miles Clown Show.” I mean really, are these characters at all representative of any part of the general Portland population? I certainly wouldn’t want either suggesting they represent me.

Jay Cee
Jay Cee
9 months ago

This is makes zero sense. How can the police claim they can’t cite someone for blocking a bus lane for 4 hours because blm had a protest 3 years ago? What is the connection there? How that relevant at all?

Did he have a concealed permit for a gun? Open carry is not legal in Portland, you need a permit to cary a gun, did they even check if he had a valid permit? Are the police now claiming that as long as I legally own the gun I can walk around with it in middle of the street while blocking lanes of travel, and yeah no big deal?

Or maybe this is just another example of the police refusing to do their jobs because they got their feeling hurt 3 years ago, and they are still bitter at people they think are liberal, aka people on bikes and will take every opportunity to show how much they hate the community they serve

Randi J
Randi J
9 months ago
Reply to  Jay Cee

That’s not accurate. Depends if the gun is loaded or not.

“Unloaded guns, however, can be brought into public spaces by their legal owners. “

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/erry-2018/10/c09fd750ef8317/guns-in-portland-what-you-can.html

Serenity
Serenity
9 months ago
Reply to  Jay Cee

How can the police claim they can’t cite someone for blocking a bus lane for 4 hours because blm had a protest 3 years ago? 

The police are good buddies with Randy? Who knows.

VS
VS
9 months ago
Reply to  Jay Cee

A protest marching down MLK followed by a young man carrying a loaded AR 15 “for security” was commonplace in Portland.there is a pretty well documented history of blocking traffic and brandishing guns in this town.

Remember the Red House protest?

This one was smaller but followed the same script. Hard to get too bent out of shape on this one.

Luke
Luke
9 months ago

Gotta love these people. “Bike lanes are unsafe; here, let me prove it to you!” Also, so damn tired of cops being so obviously ideological in their behavior; I hope there’s some kind of repercussions for them failing to issue citations. BLM were protesting police brutality; this guy is protesting that, what, he has to share the road with non-motorists? Give me a damn break.

Caleb
Caleb
9 months ago
Reply to  Luke

with how poor division still is, I am not surprised at all that blocking the bike lane had an equally, of not more so, negative effect on vehicles trying to get through.

Johnny Bye Carter
Johnny Bye Carter
9 months ago
Reply to  Luke

Everybody’s protest is equally important to them.

Hatch
Hatch
9 months ago
Reply to  Luke

Schmidt created a lawless county with his Soros “hands off” approach. Why are you so surprised? Not prosecuting crime is an “ideological” behavior.

chris
chris
9 months ago

“On several occasions, drivers tried to make a u-turns and would have to stop and reverse as they came up on Philbrick.”

I’m confused here, if he was in the bus/bike lane, why couldn’t cars get past him? Or did you mean bus drivers?

Daniel Fuller
Daniel Fuller
9 months ago

Seems important to note that U-turns between intersections in the city are illegal (not to mention dangerous):

https://www.oregon.gov/odot/dmv/pages/online_manual/study-section_3.aspx

jakeco969
jakeco969
9 months ago

“a moment of joy from making a communication breakthrough with someone who just hours prior I was yelling at and being ignored by, I tweeted a selfie with Philbrick.“

It sounds like a personal victory that you got through to him for just a bit to get him to engage. It’s a shame those who castigated you online for that couldn’t see it that way.

John
John
9 months ago

If you can’t make a U-turn on a road that huge with extra space from the median, maybe you shouldn’t be driving a land tank in a city.

I don’t know how to deal with people like this. They think of anyone not in their own personal motor vehicle as just an annoying obstacle who they would run over if they could legally do it. They’re just so unbelievably out of touch with reality it’s hard to relate to. I’m glad the turnout was almost non-existent, at least there is that hope.

Also add this to the pile of examples that the cops are on strike. They had the time to stop and talk to this guy but not do their jobs and issue a citation. They would not have allowed a lone BLM protester to just block the entire road of car traffic despite the lies they said about this case. This is blatant, it cannot be denied although I’m sure some will try.

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  John

“Cops on strike, cops lying, people out of touch with reality, people driving tanks, etc.”

The cops didn’t say they didn’t have time, they said they wouldn’t ticket people for minor traffic interactions that are part of protests. I think that is reasonable.

Ira Gershenhorn
Ira Gershenhorn
9 months ago
Reply to  Watts

Not reasonable. Dangerous. The guy and his vehicle should have been hauled off for breaking multiple laws.

ShadowsFolly
ShadowsFolly
9 months ago

Are you going to write to the DA and demand that he prosecutes all the rioters that broke multiple laws a few summers ago?

Middle o the Road Guy
Middle o the Road Guy
9 months ago
Reply to  ShadowsFolly

No, not like that!

Concordia Cyclist
Concordia Cyclist
9 months ago
Reply to  ShadowsFolly

They prosecuted plenty of them. And Whataboutism really isn’t a defense.

Hatch
Hatch
9 months ago

How many walked with no punishment whatsoever despite proof?

PS
PS
9 months ago

Same for “corkers” too, right?

John
John
9 months ago
Reply to  Watts

The both sideser has entered the chat.

No it is absolutely not reasonable. They would have forced any other protest that they didn’t align with ideologically off of the road. If refused, they would escalate to tackling. We have repeated evidence of this. It is so transparently obvious.

David Hampsten
David Hampsten
9 months ago

I wonder, how many people came out to the protest, either pro, con, or just bystanders, who had never been out that way since they made the infrastructure changes?

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  David Hampsten

It sounded to me it was one guy protesting, 8 counter protesters, a few cyclists who happened to pass by, and Jonathan.

There’s more action on a Sunday in Mayberry than in the entirety of this utter non-event.

Amit Zinman
9 months ago

I’ve got an easy solution for the U turn problem, just install a no U-turn sign.

dw
dw
9 months ago
Reply to  Amit Zinman

A lot of folks don’t understand the concept of what we lovingly call, in Idaho, the “redneck left”. Go a couple feet to the right then whip a u-turn with the extra space you have. Most of the places you can make u-turns on Division have dedicated left-turn phases so this is totally possible without risking getting clipped by someone in the through lane.

Voline
Voline
9 months ago

If the cops were actually using the BLM protests as a precedent they would have thrown him on the ground and arrested him. But a citation would have been sufficient.

Jay Cee
Jay Cee
9 months ago
Reply to  Voline

also tear gas… lots and lots of tear gas

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  Voline

“BLM protests as a precedent”

I marched in a lot of those protests, and I rarely saw a cop anywhere. They were too busy with the riots and looting to bother with the peaceful BLM folks.

donel a courtney
donel a courtney
9 months ago
Reply to  Voline

Those protests were interesting–multiple things going on and some protesters didn’t play nice–did you go? I did many times.

SD
SD
9 months ago

When will the police be done with their strike? It’s taking forever.

Jay Cee
Jay Cee
9 months ago
Reply to  SD

I thought when hardesy was voted out they’d finally stop their pathetic little pity party but it looks like were in it for the long haul until we get a real police chief that will clean house and get ppb back to work

John L
John L
9 months ago

Wow. What do you have to do, to get arrested in this town?

Jay Cee
Jay Cee
9 months ago
Reply to  John L

protest the police

PeeWee
PeeWee
9 months ago
Reply to  John L

Good question. Apparently sieging police stations and attempting to murder people inside didn’t do it so why would blocking a lane be any different?

Drew
Drew
9 months ago
Reply to  PeeWee

Ah utterly useless comment with no connection to reality. You’ve added nothing to the conversation, the police have been quiet quitting ever since they got a reality check and their egos couldn’t handle it. You seem to be the only person here willing to indulge them in their pity party to the extent that you’re trolling news blogs with what amounts to somebodys grandma’s garbled political rambling from Facebook.

Why are you even here? Do you ride a bike? How about you go deal with this self-centered manchild so out of touch that he rides around popping his gun onto the dash for nothing hoping to goad someone into giving him legal justification to shoot while you’re out for a ride. All those bikes you definitely ride and all that…

PeeWee
PeeWee
9 months ago
Reply to  Drew

Wow somebody is angry. I wonder why this comment didn’t get censored to be “more nice” ?

Yolanda S
Yolanda S
9 months ago
Reply to  PeeWee

Jonathan’s biases (unconscious and conscious) cause him to limit censorship of caustic comments by those with a more left wing philosophy (anti-police, pro-Hardesty, homeless enabling activism, etc). It’s his blog, not a regular news site so his uneven policing although annoying is part of it.

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  Yolanda S

Try more insight, less toxicicity. This isn’t Twitter, thank goodness.

Concordia Cyclist
Concordia Cyclist
9 months ago
Reply to  PeeWee

Interesting, because I read your comment as angry. Just delivered in a passive voice like my mom often does.

Randi J
Randi J
9 months ago
Reply to  PeeWee

Ahh…the bike portland “police hate” echo chamber is in full force now. Violent racial “justice” protests are fine, but for this one that you don’t like the guy should be arrested and locked up for 20 years. LOL. The hypocrisy is strong in Portland. (For the record I don’t agree with this Philbrick guy. )

Concordia Cyclist
Concordia Cyclist
9 months ago
Reply to  Randi J

That “police hate” goes well beyond the bike crowd. Plenty of drivers are angry at their lack of doing their jobs on the roads, as well. Really like the exaggeration, though (“locked up for 20 years”) – it clearly represents an inability to represent reality right out in the open. (Hint: nobody here said as such – it was just a poorly-sourced assumption in your own mind.)

Randi J
Randi J
9 months ago

Nobody said 20 years but you get the point.
Yes we need good professional policing. Most cops here are. No profession is without its problems, policing is no different. Angry diatribes against
police you see here often on bike portland don’t move us forward to an improved public safety system and a safe walkable and bikeable city. Something Portland has been moving AWAY from not towards unfortunately.

Hatch
Hatch
9 months ago
Reply to  John L

Claim to be Conservative.

Caleb
Caleb
9 months ago

Division feels like one of those streets that gets worse before it gets better. Actually reminds me of the vancouver roundabout that was installed on 137th a few years back. The first year since it was built was nonstop car accidents, biking on the roundabout was a joke between the glass of previously crashed cars and the risk of another crashing into you. It’s gotten much better since then. This personal experience leads me to believe that all the craziness on division street will die down eventually. A good way of thinking about it is people are stubborn but the median divider is stubborn as concrete.

Fred
Fred
9 months ago

Not your finest hour, JM. You can never take back a photo. But the real villains of this piece are PPB. If only they could feel some shame.

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  Fred

It used to be possible to celebrate a surprisingly positive interaction with someone you were sure you wouldn’t get along with without having to endorse everything that person had said and done previously.

Personally, I commend Jonathan for having the courage to send out the photo in an environment where everyone is so hypercritical.

EDIT:

Oops, I didn’t see that Jonathan had deleted the photo and associated commentary. So much for that… it was good while it lasted.

dwk
dwk
9 months ago
Reply to  Watts

Hitler was nice to his dogs.. is that your point?
Behind every person waving guns around is really just a misunderstood human that we would just get along with?
Laughable bothsiderism as usual.

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  dwk
Brian
Brian
9 months ago

It looks like that guy needs to be using bike lanes, not blocking them.

Chris I
Chris I
9 months ago
Reply to  Brian

If he had a helmet on, he wouldn’t have to wear that stupid hat.

PeeWee
PeeWee
9 months ago

I don’t blame him for the firearm. There are some very violent folks here in PDX.

Middle o the Road Guy
Middle o the Road Guy
9 months ago
Reply to  PeeWee

Seems like it kept the interactions polite.

Chris I
Chris I
9 months ago
Reply to  PeeWee

Definitely. I’ve heard some people will rack rounds into the chamber as a method of intimidation when someone attempts to talk to them.

PeeWee
PeeWee
9 months ago
Reply to  Chris I

Better safe than sorry. Ya never know when those fine folks in black masks and hoodies are going to show up for a mostly peaceful discussion.

Boyrd
Boyrd
9 months ago

I’m saddened but not surprised that the cops actually showed up and then refused to issue a citation. It is par for the course in this city.

I was downtown in Portland a year ago delivering food by bicycle. I was in a restaurant waiting to pick up a delivery order when a couple of Portland cops walked in to get some food. I informed them that the bike lane on Burnside was blocked by a parked car (approximately two blocks away from where we were) and asked them to issue a citation. They told me they weren’t going to do anything and offered a weak apology about the fundamental lack of fairness.

Middle o the Road Guy
Middle o the Road Guy
9 months ago
Reply to  Boyrd

The driver might have been a minority. Since the system is inherently racist, it’s best not to cite anyone just in case they might be a minority.

Vahlee
Vahlee
9 months ago

Oh how nice of someone to protest safety measures by INTENTIONALLY BEING UNSAFE.

Roads are NOT just for drivers. If I was a bus, I gladly would have hit that car. I’m sick of people who don’t think laws apply to them but then want to act high and mighty when pressed about breaking said laws.

In Spokane, Division Street carries United States Highways 2 and 395 through the city. It is SEVEN LANES WIDE. It’s the city’s busiest arterial and it’s a nightmare for cars, busses, and pedestrians alike. A new freeway will ease congestion on Division in the next decade and will trigger a reconfiguration of Diviosn, in the form of the right lane on each direction becoming a bus lane and the addition of (hopefully) separated bike lanes.

I’m going to be pissed if their idea of “separated” looks like what they recently did to Riverside Avenue.

Drivers need to effing learn the roads are not just for them and stop being so selfish.

Trike Guy
Trike Guy
9 months ago
Reply to  Vahlee

If you were a bus you’d have difficulty typing this comment. Most keyboards are set up for typing with massive tires.

(I’m imagining a Hanna-Barbera dune buggy using it’s front wheels to type a message here)

Lol.

Of course, if you were a bus *driver* and deliberately hit a car you’d no longer be a bus *driver* If you injured someone you’d be on the hook for 2nd degree assault.

rick
rick
9 months ago
Reply to  Vahlee

Spokane needs a lot of help. It is very lame that they are building a new freeway in this day and age.

Bike bro
Bike bro
9 months ago

Is this whole point about U-turns??? In Jersey and New York (actual urbanized areas) you can’t make U turns on a major road. You also have to turn right to make a left turn, look it up westerners

Matt
Matt
9 months ago
Reply to  Bike bro

What does that even mean in this context?! And are you ready to retract your incorrect statement yet? Last question: Am I crazy to expect better quality of interaction from a comment moderator?

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  Matt

Dude, dial it back. If you disagree, reply calmly, and include a citation. Lisa is not trying to bully you into submission.

Trike Guy
Trike Guy
9 months ago
Reply to  Bike bro

U-TurnsU-turns are prohibited in these locations:

  • Intersections controlled by a traffic signal, unless a sign permits the turn.
  • Between intersections in a city.
  • Any location within city limits where your vehicle cannot be seen by traffic coming from either direction within 500 feet.
  • Any location outside city limits where your vehicle cannot be seen by traffic coming from either direction within 1,000 feet.
  • At or on a railroad crossing.
  • Any location where U-turns are prohibited by official signs or markings.
Middle o the Road Guy
Middle o the Road Guy
9 months ago

Should have been arrested for wearing a kilt.

Pete
Pete
9 months ago

Without a proper sporran, absolutely!

qqq
qqq
9 months ago

Protester: “Why are you arresting me? I’m innocent!”
Cop: “You look pretty kilty to me.”

J_R
J_R
9 months ago

What would have been the outcome of a non-white bicyclist blocking a motor vehicle lane while brandishing a gun?

Johnny Bye Carter
Johnny Bye Carter
9 months ago
Reply to  J_R

Death.

Middle o the Road Guy
Middle o the Road Guy
9 months ago

Stop. If black people were murdered by police at the rates progressives claim, there’d be millions killed every year.

Andrew S
Andrew S
9 months ago

Honestly, I agree with the police response here. Don’t ticket him, don’t arrest him, don’t make him feel like a martyr, don’t feed his narrative that the city is against him. Confrontation isn’t going to change his or anyone’s mind in this situation. Gun or no gun, don’t feed his mindset that he needs to be armed and ready for a confrontation with someone on a Schwinn.

Just ride by, ring your bell, and blow him a kiss. Absolutely stand up for what you believe in, but you gotta pick your battles, and this guy ain’t worth your time.

alex
alex
9 months ago

It’s funny, because I remember the cops citing a lot of protestors during the BLM protests. If they were treating him like the BLM protests, shouldn’t they be tear gassing him?

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  alex

If he had been looting handbags or shooting fireworks at the cops, then yes, they should have.

Daniel Fuller
Daniel Fuller
9 months ago
Reply to  Watts

I think you mean “standing peacefully in a driveway”, i.e “intentionally blocking vehicular traffic”:

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/10/11/portland-police-make-blanket-arrests-minutes-after-saturday-protest-starts/

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  Daniel Fuller

“The 123rd night of protests for racial justice in Portland ended minutes after it started…”

Sure, after 122 previous nights of this group (which was not BLM) rioting, the cops shut things down early. Bad on them.

Is a group of Antifa wanting to fight cops 123 nights in a row really a valid comparison to a lone guy parking in a bike lane?

Daniel Fuller
Daniel Fuller
9 months ago
Reply to  Watts

Funny how a handful of rioters is enough to delegitimize an entire protest, but a handful of corrupt and violent cops is not enough to delegitimize the entire police bureau. Very curious indeed.

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  Daniel Fuller

The BLM protests have not been “delegitimized” (as far as I know, but you tell me). They were large, peaceful marches, independent of the rioting, which was a different group altogether.

Daniel Fuller
Daniel Fuller
9 months ago
Reply to  Watts

Ah yes, good old guilt by association. Literally anyone present at a so-called “riot” can lose their First Amendment rights, whether or not they did any “rioting”. How very enlightened and progressive.

alex
alex
9 months ago
Reply to  Watts

Oh yes, the Portland Police really handled the BLM protests with an even hand that went along with their own and federal settlements around their policing.

https://www.opb.org/article/2022/07/27/us-justice-department-portland-police-use-of-force-settlement/

Looks like we are approaching the 10 year anniversary of them violating their settlement with the US Justice Dept. How can we celebrate? Maybe they could include some more racists and homo/transphobic memes in their training? Would that help?

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  alex

Are you sure you aren’t confusing the BLM protests with the riots? Those were different groups, with different aims, using different tactics, and getting a different reception from the police.

alex
alex
9 months ago
Reply to  Watts

Where is this narrative from? Where are you drawing the differences from? From what I have read and what I experienced, the police were some of the largest instigators of the violence.

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2020/09/100-days-of-black-lives-matter-protests-in-portland-timeline-and-photos-trace-the-arc-of-events.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/27/us/portland-protests-proud-boys-antifa-blm/index.html

jakeco969
jakeco969
9 months ago
Reply to  alex

The CNN article does not paint a flattering image of the protestors at all. The following are lifted directly from the CNN article. If this is the best article to paint police as instigators then I can’t believe that they were. If your angst is that the police wouldn’t let the crowd do whatever it wanted than I don’t really have any idea what to say.

“….the demonstrations turned violent as night fell Saturday, prompting police to declare a downtown gathering unlawful and make several arrests.

Police confiscated numerous weapons as well, they said.”

“Officers attempted to disengage and leave the area multiple times in an effort to de-escalate, but each time as they retreated, individuals in the crowd threw projectiles at officers and re-entered the street. Officers made additional arrests,” the unified command statement said.”

“After a traffic stop about three blocks from the justice center, during which a drone was seized, officers were targeted with more projectiles – believed to be ball bearings fired from slingshots. police said.”

“By 1:30 a.m. Sunday, most of the crowd had left, save for a small group of hostile individuals” in Chapman Square who threw bottles at officers, prompting more arrests, police said.”

alex
alex
9 months ago
Reply to  jakeco969

No side was 100% perfect, but much of the escalation of violence was based on police action. This was proven time and again in court, since 2014. They don’t even seem to understand their own policy : https://www.opb.org/article/2022/10/03/portland-police-testimony-aggressive-use-of-force-protesters/

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  alex

I honestly don’t understand why you and Daniel Fuller are so upset at my assertion that the BLM protests were largely peaceful. It really makes no sense to me.

Johnny Bye Carter
Johnny Bye Carter
9 months ago

It seems that the proper counter -protest would be to block the car lanes directly next to him so that nobody can get through on the road.

qqq
qqq
9 months ago

Yes, then they could call the whole thing a Block Party.

Trike Guy
Trike Guy
9 months ago
Reply to  qqq

Okay, I chuckled.

Champs
Champs
9 months ago

The “Lane Back” movement doesn’t seem too consequential, but I don’t think it should be ignored.

This site is a bubble. There are factions within it, but I think that they mostly agree here. We also have allies outside of the bubble who halfway get it, but their support is fragile. They need the dashboard perspective that this stuff still matters because they are still, and may forever remain, in their cars.

I still think that neighborhood connections matter much more than arterials, especially in the city periphery, but that’s a story for another day.

Randi J
Randi J
9 months ago

“The man Philbrick drew his gun on was Garrett Miles….”

Doesn’t sound like that is what happened Jonathan.

Randi J
Randi J
9 months ago

Jonathan,
How about just apologizing for the incorrect usage of “drew his gun on”,
fix it and move on?

Anonymous
Anonymous
9 months ago

Jesus Christ. Absolutely idiocy. How pathetic of a person do you have to be to be this upset about a lane change?

Any statements he makes about the safety of this lane are irrelevant, because he is not a traffic engineer!

Scallywag
Scallywag
9 months ago

I’m stunned that Trimet didn’t throw it’s weight around and get this guy outta there. Obviously, he is the vocal minority.

ShadowsFolly
ShadowsFolly
9 months ago
Reply to  Scallywag

Trimet can’t seem to throw its weight around to keep buses and trains safe why would we expect them to do anything to a person where all they had to do was drive around him?

Trike Guy
Trike Guy
9 months ago
Reply to  ShadowsFolly

Nor can they be bothered to keep a group of guys from smoking meth on the the Beaverton train platform.

Got there this morning to the distinct smell of it coming from a group of guys on the middle platform.

Then, after being there for 8 minutes the 4:12 red line never showed – turns out they canceled it.

Hopped on the trike and rode the 23miles in instead of riding the Max to goose hollow and riding a fairly flat 15.

Watts
Watts
9 months ago
Reply to  Trike Guy

For the life of me, I can’t figure out why TriMet ridership is down.

Foot Patrol
Foot Patrol
9 months ago

The Division Transit Project had recommended preserving left turn access to businesses along the street. For what reason the Outer Division Safety Project ignored that recommendation.

mc
mc
9 months ago

Just blocking a bus & bike lane w. your car isn’t really a protest. Philbrick didn’t even have a sign, pamphlets or a megaphone to express his free speech on this matter.

What have he & others done to get their grievances addressed by PBOT?

That’s an important step, especially if things are as bad as him, Magadamova and the other older guy you interviewed are saying.

Folks who live and/or work there should most certainly have their concerns heard & addressed, but so should everyone who uses SE Division. PBOT’s design plans should also be questioned/reviewed in a public forum and there should absolutely be a “How’s it working” public forum some months after installation.

My one criticism I have about SE Division bike lanes, is that they shouldn’t be put in until PBOT can control the traffic & speed to a very high degree instead of just trusting motorists to just magically understand the new infrastructure, legally abide by it and navigate it safely.

I’m very serious about this, motorists have been conditioned for decades to drive straight at high speeds and not be concerned about non-motorist road users. People don’t change their conditioned behaviors & viewpoints, “roads are for cars”, overnight.

I’ve biked on the section of SE Division a few times, but only when I couldn’t find an alternate route. Who wants to bike next to a bunch of loud cars, buses, trucks in a debris filled lane and breathe fossil fuel emissions?

Az
Az
9 months ago

I’m skeptical that if a bunch of cyclists engaging in civil disobedience, blocked some traffic, police would just ignore it

Dave Fronk
Dave Fronk
9 months ago
Reply to  Az

WNBR has entered the chat (complete with police escort)

Daniel Fuller
Daniel Fuller
9 months ago

“We have to u-turn into the bike lane. If there is a bicyclist [while a driver is u-turning], we’re going to kill him.”

Then maybe, I dunno, *don’t* make a dangerous (and illegal) U-turn there? Just a thought.

Magomadova (perhaps unintentionally) does make a good point: a raised cycle track behind a curb (essentially widening the sidewalk) would absolutely be safer and more comfortable for cyclists. Sidewalk-level bike lanes are already PBOT’s preferred design for new street construction. Apparently the reason they weren’t used much on Division is that this was a retrofit, not a major reconstruction:

https://bikeportland.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Portland-Protected-Bicycle-Lane-Design-Guide-v2021-050521-small.pdf

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Zoe
Zoe
9 months ago
Reply to  Daniel Fuller

I also noted Magomadova’s point on the raised cycle track. I used to live in Eastern Europe and areas that were in the Soviet Union (I’m guessing that’s her background based on her name), and those kinds of treatments for bike lanes – shared but demarcated bike/walking path – are much more frequently used than here. I’ve used them lots in multiple countries (Scandinavia too) and vastly prefer them. So I don’t think it’s necessarily unintentional on her part that she got it right on that element (although obviously not on the U-turn piece!) It’s a shame that the sidewalk-level bike lanes didn’t make it to Division – that could have almost have been transformative.

Repturd
Repturd
9 months ago

I think taking the selfie with him was a good thing, if we want to see any progress we need to normalize talking with opposition, not demonizing them.

Yolanda S
Yolanda S
9 months ago
Reply to  Repturd

Agreed. Jonathan you should be proud of that selfie, not embarrassed. Stick up to your intolerant and self-righteous followers.

Randi J
Randi J
9 months ago

Were you fearful even you would receive threats like Philbrick apparently did?

Randi J
Randi J
9 months ago

That’s unfortunate. Sorry you have to endure that. What did Angela Todd tweet that was “horrible untrue”?

Was this it? While not exactly complimentary doesn’t seem that bad.

“After
@Jonathan_Maus
posted this article, the woman he quoted in it who owns the Russian market down the street has been getting harassing and threatening phone calls. This is why I call them Bike Fascists. It’s not enough that the city has been responsible for her losing 30% of her business, now she has these idiots coming after her as well. If you get a chance, please visit Fatima’s store, the Roman Russian Food Market. It really has amazing food and it’s really reprehensible that these fascists are going after a minority owned store.“

Dave Fronk
Dave Fronk
9 months ago
Reply to  Randi J

Was the BikePortland comment section successful in its attempts to get him fired from his job? Last week we had people posting his boss’ email and phone numbers here, encouraging others to “let them know what you think” about the proposed protest…

Trike Guy
Trike Guy
9 months ago

I find it ironic that many of the people castigating this guy for blocking a bus/bike lane are the same folks who think it’s fine for a bike ride to block an intersection for 5-10 minutes. Long enough that I missed my bus connection on a Sunday and lost an hour of my day.

Peaceful protest is a first amendment issue and we can’t suddenly be against it because the guy doing it is a complete moron.

The gun thing is another matter. There’s an implicit threat involved, whether you chamber a round or not – for all anyone other than him knows he’s stupid enough to carry it with a round chambered, or it’s a double action weapon.

qqq
qqq
9 months ago
Reply to  Trike Guy

On the other hand, bikes blocking an intersection for 5-10 minutes (and it’s usually much quicker than that) is a lot more comparable to, say, a deliver truck blocking a bike lane for 5-10 minutes, or double parking and blocking a vehicle lane for that time, because 1) it’s minutes vs. hours, and 2) there’s a real, functional reason for doing it.

And since it’s legal for the delivery truck to block the bike lane, there’s at least a decent argument that bikes stopping traffic for a large ride should also be legal (or a delivery truck double parking in a vehicle lane in some cases also, for that matter).

The “legal because it’s a protest” issue is another matter. If the bikes were blocking an intersection because they were doing a protest ride instead of a fun ride, then if Philbrick’s vehicle blocking lanes for hours is covered under protest rules, then certainly bikes blocking an intersection for 5-10 minutes would be covered as well.

Trike Guy
Trike Guy
9 months ago
Reply to  qqq

I can’t agree – no one was prevented from moving through the area of his protest.

Cyclists could easily go by on the sidewalk and buses can just pull into the vehicle lane.

And, as I pointed out, I wasn’t delayed 5-10 minutes. I lost an hour.

Heck, his protest was just another day commuting – I regularly have to pull otu and around cars parked in bike lanes.

Trike Guy
Trike Guy
9 months ago

And, just one more thing:

Looking at those images – the ADA ramp takes you up and the curb on the other side of him is what, 3″ tall? Even on my decidedly not-offroad-worthy trike that’s nothing.

Why on earth would you veer left out to the vehicle lane here instead of simply riding up onto the sidewalk, go by him then hop off the low curb back onto the street?

Menacing
Menacing
9 months ago

Section 163.190 – Menacing (1) A person commits the crime of menacing if by word or conduct the person intentionally attempts to place another person in fear of imminent serious physical injury.



Speeding protest
Speeding protest
9 months ago

So, if I get caught speeding, can I claim I’m protesting the speed limit? What would happen if when the cops pulled me over, I chambered a round?

FDUP
FDUP
9 months ago

whatta bunch of BS all the way around.

賢進ジェンナ
賢進ジェンナ
6 months ago

Division, Foster, and a lot of streets in the SE extremes of Portland are terrible to bike and drive. I won’t disagree with Magomadova that the clearly marked elevated bike lanes on sidewalks are nice, but I do disagree with Magomadova’s other commentary. I do think that adding a bike lane and bus lane does not make a stroad a street. I do also believe that the bike lane and bus lane are just a small part of what should be a larger community development effort.

I like SE Portland… there are so many different shops scattered about there, but it is terrible that it has been allowed to languish as it has. I honestly wonder if the city’s taken up too much land area to be able to properly manage it all.