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Grab a ’20 is Plenty’ yard sign and help PBOT change traffic culture

Posted by on February 8th, 2018 at 3:51 pm

Hopefully it’s a sign of change.
(Photo: PBOT)

Changing America’s dysfunctional traffic culture begins on the street in front of where you live.

It will take a lot more than signs and paint to win the battle against traffic violence — but both of those things are part of the fight. The Portland Bureau of Transportation has a new way you can aid their “Vision Zero” efforts: They now offer free ’20 is Plenty’ yard signs. Their goal is to help educate us about speed and give everyone a bit of a fair warning before the new 20 mph citywide residential speed limit goes into effect on April 1st (no foolin’).

Here are the times and places you can pick up a free sign:

(Graphic: PBOT)

➤ Northeast: Saturday, Feb. 24, 9:30-2:30 p.m., Madison High School, 2735 NE 82nd
➤ Downtown: Feb. 26-Aug. 31, Monday-Friday, 8 a.m.-5 p.m., City of Portland Bureau of Transportation, Congress Center Building, 1001 SW 5th, Suite 500 (5th floor)
➤ East: Saturday, March 3, noon-4 p.m., Midland Library, 805 SE 122nd
➤ East: Saturday, March 10, noon-4 p.m., Zenger Farm, 11741 SE Foster
➤ North: location being confirmed, check back soon
➤ Southeast: location being confirmed, check back soon
➤ Southwest: Saturday, March 31, noon-4 p.m., Multnomah Arts Center parking lot, 7688 SW Capitol
➤ Northwest: location being confirmed, check back soon

Check out PBOT’s website to stay in touch with this effort to make speeding a dirty word in Portland.

— Jonathan Maus: (503) 706-8804, @jonathan_maus on Twitter and jonathan@bikeportland.org

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42 Comments
  • Stephen Keller February 8, 2018 at 5:17 pm

    Can I get a sign that suggests 20 is way too fast for my narrow, single-lane street bordered by end-to-end parked vehicles?

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  • bikeninja February 8, 2018 at 5:25 pm

    This weekend I biked over from downtown Beaverton to the Fanno Creek Trailhead at Denny to see if the middle school construction had improved across and down Denny, it had but on the way I saw three different little speed warning trailers set out on residential streets in the Vose neighborhood to remind people of their speed and tell them to slow down. Since we don’t seem to do much speed enforcement in Portland maybe a few dozen of those scattered around would help shame the scofflaws in to obeying the new law. The ones I saw in Beaverton were almost small enough to tow around with a bike.

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    • Brian February 9, 2018 at 5:13 am

      On my commute through Beaverton I noticed that one house has the speed limit painted on their garbage can, which I thought was a great use of otherwise wasted space. A nice weekly reminder for the cut-through traffic.

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  • Steve Scarich February 8, 2018 at 5:50 pm

    Whenever you pass a law that is dramatically different than common practice, you can guarantee it will not be effective. Make marijuana illegal, no effect. Tell young people they cannot smoke cigarettes, no effect. Tell people who have been driving 35 mph that they cannot go over 20 mph, no effect. In Bend, there are a couple of sections of road on Franklin and Greenwood that are posted at 25 mph; average speed probably 40 mph. Number of times in the past 10 years that I have seen anyone pulled over…..zero! Impractical laws lead to predictable outcomes.

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    • Hello, Kitty
      Hello, Kitty February 8, 2018 at 5:52 pm

      Seriously. Look at the way seatbelt laws flopped.

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      • Dave February 8, 2018 at 7:45 pm

        Or No Smoking in restaurants

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    • 9watts February 8, 2018 at 6:20 pm

      I couldn’t disagree more, Steve. Rome was not built in a day. Let’s walk before we tell ourselves how disappointed we all are that no one’s running.

      Not so long ago we told ourselves that reducing the speed limit Or having speed cameras on our streets) were both impossible; perhaps we’ll crack the enforcement nut yet.

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    • rick February 8, 2018 at 7:54 pm

      People have slowed down on BH Highway by the safety cameras.

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    • Mike Quigley February 9, 2018 at 5:24 am

      Enforcement is the solution. Saturation enforcement and STIFF FINES. Stiff fines could pay for the entire police budget including added staff (and courts) for processing. Rather than a 250 dollar fine, how about 2,500? Even 25,000? Turn the system into an assembly line. Let’s go!

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      • John Liu February 9, 2018 at 7:45 am

        What, no guillotine?

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        • Middle of the Road Guy February 9, 2018 at 8:20 am

          I have been tempted to go that route with people who little the Right of Way I maintain at my house.

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      • Steve Scarich February 9, 2018 at 9:18 am

        Cities in Oregon are flat-out unable to hire enough officers, and, with increased pain from PERS expenditures, there is not going to be enough money to fund adequate policing. At least, in our lifetimes.

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        • Dan A February 12, 2018 at 5:26 pm

          I was passed by a Sheriff doing at least 20mph over the speed limit this weekend. I wonder if we could somehow get the police to start obeying the speed limit from time to time.

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      • bikeninja February 9, 2018 at 10:32 am

        If we could just punish speeding violations they way they punish public gum chewing in Singapore the problem would be solved.

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      • mark smith February 10, 2018 at 3:43 pm

        Enforcement isn’t the solution. Changing the culture, and street design is.

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        • Hello, Kitty
          Hello, Kitty February 10, 2018 at 11:18 pm

          Agreed, but enforcement is part of changing the culture.

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      • osmill February 13, 2018 at 1:15 pm

        Perhaps a progressive fine structure, starting at a base fine and increasing in cost by steps, indexed to the Kelly Blue Book value of the car. (The base fine might even be much lower than the current fine, which could begin to address some of the concerns around the socioeconomic impacts of traffic fines.)

        (I’ve read before that some country/ies in northern Europe (Finland?) levy progressive traffic fines, tied to the offender’s income (or wealth). That introduces privacy and other complications (fraudulent evasion…) in this country that could be easily avoided by tying the increased fines to the value of the vehicle. Cop looks up the car in a fine structure, says “2017 BMW x3, well, that puts you in a Tier 6 fine, so that 15 over is going to cost you $1,800 today.”

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        • Hello, Kitty
          Hello, Kitty February 13, 2018 at 6:20 pm

          I’d be interested to hear from some lawyer types on whether tying the punishment to a factor unrelated to the crime (type of car) would fly. Our legal system is built on the premise of equality under the law, and using variable punishments like this would seem to me (not a lawyer type) to violate that principle.

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          • Ken S February 13, 2018 at 6:30 pm

            By the same token, a speeding ticket of, say, $250 is nit an equal punishment for someone earning $9/hr versus someone earning $100/hr.

            That $250 coukd land the minimum wage earner in collections, or zeroing out their bank account, maybe missing rent or worse.
            That same $250 might be barely a slap on the wrist for the rich guy.

            So one xould argue that an unequal punishment, in this context, is fair, and upholds the intent of the law.

            I do second your request for actual lawyers to weigh in, though.

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            • 9watts February 13, 2018 at 6:50 pm

              Which is exactly the argument underlying the day-fine approach folks have outlined here and which works very well in a bunch of European countries.
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-fine

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            • Hello, Kitty
              Hello, Kitty February 13, 2018 at 9:14 pm

              A year in jail is an unequal punishment for someone with a family than it is for a single person; it is also more expensive for a doctor than for a day laborer. Should prison terms be calibrated for “equality”?

              The question of whether it would fly legally remains unanswered.

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    • Sigma February 9, 2018 at 8:29 am

      Come on. Smoking rates were above 50% a generation ago, and are under 20% now.

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    • Dave February 10, 2018 at 9:59 am

      What about legalizing car theft until Vision Zero is achieved?

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      • BB February 13, 2018 at 4:10 pm

        It wouldn’t even need to be legalized, just enforced the way that speeding is now.

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  • TonyT
    TonyT February 9, 2018 at 8:31 am

    Cue broken record: without a noticeable uptick in enforcement, nothing will change. This will only notify those who already intend to drive carefully of the change.

    Culture works via carrots and sticks. Portland has an abysmal lack of enforcement and that Portland, the PPB, and PBOT will not respond to a horrific increase in deaths with a proportional increase in enforcement is criminal.

    If this increase in deaths was happening on private property, Disneyland for example, and the response from Disney was, “We can’t increase security because our security force is racist.” People would lose their ever-lovin’ minds. That’s what Portland is doing.

    I know that if a loved one of mine were injured or killed by a speeding driver, I would pursue every legal avenue to hold Portland financially responsible for their neglect.

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    • TonyT
      TonyT February 9, 2018 at 8:41 am

      And to be clear, I fully agree that our police traffic enforcement is terribly racially biased. I just also think that putting a freeze on increasing enforcement without accompanying substantive change within the force is merely reframing neglect as a solution.

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      • Middle of the Road Guy February 9, 2018 at 11:30 am

        is there a way to measure the degree to which something is biased? I mean, can it be “mildly” biased?

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        • TonyT
          TonyT February 11, 2018 at 11:56 am

          It’s not “mildly.”

          African Americans are pulled over at twice the rate of their representation in the population, and twice again as likely to be searched despite being less likely to be carrying contraband than whites.

          http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/01/portland_police_traffic_stops_1.html

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          • 9watts February 11, 2018 at 1:05 pm

            Thank you for linking to that piece. I’ve linked to the report on Multnomah County’s report here in the comments before. It is dreadful.

            http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/RRI%20Report%20Final-1.pdf

            http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/02/blacks_overrepresented_in_ever.html

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          • Hello, Kitty
            Hello, Kitty February 11, 2018 at 6:04 pm

            The article also notes that the traffic division is much better than the police as a whole, so reducing their efforts is unlikely to make a big change in the overall statistics, which are, I agree, dismal.

            It also suggests to me that traffic enforcement itself is not the problem, but using traffic infractions as a pretext is. Which kind of makes sense.

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            • Eric Leifsdad February 13, 2018 at 7:59 am

              PPD will often publish reports that include “gang enforcement officers initiated a traffic stop”.

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              • Eric Leifsdad February 13, 2018 at 8:01 am

                ppb. Also, traffic cops don’t carry guns in 1st world countries.

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              • Hello, Kitty
                Hello, Kitty February 13, 2018 at 9:20 pm

                I agree — hellholes like Denmark (where all police are armed) are hardly fit for human occupation.

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  • Ken S February 9, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    Pinning our hopes on little signs seems a bit toothless.

    Income-based fines, I think, would do wonders to motivate better driving.
    If you can’t help but to drive your $130000 mercedes G-class at 40mph in a 25mph zone, that’s cool, but you get to pay 25% of your monthly income as a fine.

    Other option I’d love to see is speed camera activated speed bumps that jump up from the grade 1-3 inches.
    Going the spees limit? Smooth sailing.
    5mph over the posted speed? You’re getting a nice jolt.

    How fast do you think people would slow down after hitting a square edge at 40mph?

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    • osmill February 13, 2018 at 1:19 pm

      Ken, I didn’t see your comment before posting a response further up-thread. If you make it tied to the value of the vehicle instead of the driver’s income, you avoid all kinds of privacy and accurate-information issues, and make it very easy to establish the level of the fine on the spot.

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      • Ken S February 13, 2018 at 2:41 pm

        I really like that idea. I totally get the privacy/identity fraud concerns around income-based fines.
        Certainly, whatever fine structure is used, I would want to avoid overburdening people in low income brackets. Like how a $95 parking ticket can literally ruin someone’s life, if they’re living paycheck to paycheck at minimum wage, but someone earning $200K/yr just cuts a check and treats it as an inconvenience charge for their laziness.

        I like imagining someone in a clapped out Ford Explorer, briefly ignoring their speed, getting pulled over:
        Officer – “Kelly blue book puts your vehicle at around $750, so that’ll be $5. Cash and coins accepted. Please drive more carefully, next time.”

        And I would LOVE to see all the impatient commuters blasting through my neighborhood (35+ in a 25) get charged $1800 per infraction!

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        • Hello, Kitty
          Hello, Kitty February 13, 2018 at 6:15 pm

          Personally, I want to see people speeding caught speeding to have a really bad day. I don’t think the price of a beer would cut it.

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  • Tim February 10, 2018 at 7:48 am

    I think speed activated cameras could work, ticket the vehicle owner..
    Second time the same vehicle is speeding, fine is automatically doubled…
    Third time, fine is tripled and car impounded till fines paid..AND the tickets are put on the drivers record.
    If fines not paid, owner has to pay when renewing license or registration!

    I fail to see how a speed activated camera could be “racial profiling”…

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  • John Lascurettes February 11, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    Is this going to change the designation of Greenways at all? That is, are all side streets now “greenways” or do greenways still get special treatment (signs, sharrows, bioswales) and designation?

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    • Hello, Kitty
      Hello, Kitty February 13, 2018 at 9:19 pm

      I agree — hellholes like Denmark (where all police are armed) are hardly fit for human occupation.

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  • Anna March 28, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    Passive-Aggressive signs giving truly no indication of what’s even being referred to are NOT the way to enact/enforce new legislation.

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    • 9watts March 28, 2018 at 7:19 pm

      Are you referring to anything in particular? Care to fill in the gaps?

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