PBOT installs new bike boulevard wayfinding signs

Much more legible!

Lower-case lettering is always more legible and easier to read. Note that new street signs going in around Portland are also getting a similar upgrade (see any of the Caesar E. Chavez signs going in on 39th). The font is larger, non condensed and mixed case: all things making it more legible from a distance.

Just one complaint: make the arrows bigger, please! With my not-very-20/20 eyes, I could at least see the options on a sign a few blocks away, even if I couldn’t read the text. If I knew I had to make a left soon, the sign let me know what block it came up on (think the left on Tillamook from Vancouver), and I could use that time to move over to the left lane on the street.

There’s space to make the arrows bigger, and I think the distances are a nice-but-secondary function that can be kept small. Also, I don’t like how the arrows don’t vertically align on the same sign.

Other than that, great.

Great to see the new signs are using the Clearview fonts rather than the old FHWA Highway Gothic. That helps the legibility quite a bit. A well designed font, proper destination delineation, standard arrows, and positive contrast are all wonderful improvements. While it is nice to have signed bike routes, the old design always make me cringe.

since we got the Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act in 1988 maybe we could start using metric on some new signs to get people used to the 22 year old standard and start migrating it to roads…

but yes, the new signs are better…

Glad to see the new signs using the much more legible Clearview typeface, even if they’re still not using the typeface correctly per the FHWA style guide. The text still needs to be larger, you should be able to read the signs before you get up to them from a bicycle moving at a reasonable speed. Both the old and the new signs have the problem of needing to slow down below 10 MPH to properly identify and read the message presented, which is a Bad Thing™ in traffic.

These are a real step in the right direction compared to the truly non-compliant reverse-color/pennant signage.

Honestly, that’s an ugly sign. Someone who probably doesn’t know much about layout, design, or typesetting decided to center align the arrows and titles horizontally instead of left aligning. It’s not easy to read nor is it very nice to look at.

@Spiffy #5

I’d be opposed to switching to metric. The British-American system has the nice feature of allowing just about anyone to deem any arbitrary object as a unit of measurement. For example, it’s 856 Raleigh Centurions from my home to work. You show me a convenient means of converting Centurions to meters and then maybe I’ll consider your fancy metric system.

Ooo…imagine what hay Dan Maes would make of using the metric system on bike traffic signs! How many kms to Geneva? It would be further confirmation of the U.N. plot to destroy American autonomy with bicycles and bring us into a one-world government.

(P.S. — The new signs are nice looking, with or without metrics.)

@Aaron: I agree, the MUTCD says arrows should be aligned (though right arrows would be on the other margin). The legends need to be much, much larger. Also, the current MUTCD favors SI units to English units, so if you’re driving and you see a speed or weight limit with the numbers circled, be aware that the sign is in SI units, not English units.

@Jack: So you frequently convert obsolete units into nearly-obsolete units? Never mind the billions of people who can convert base-10 SI units in their heads quite easily? Example, how many decimeters are in 570 kilometers? OK, now how many feet are in 570 miles? NO CALCULATORS!

@Michael #9
LOL. Just another example of Gov’mint tellin’ us bikeriders where to ride and how far to go!! Next thing you know, they’ll want to require adult riders to wear helmets!!

(p.s. — the signs are an improvement.)

@Bob 12: You mean, like British Columbia and Alberta? I still laugh every time I ride around up there and someone gets busted for not wearing their helmet while their helmet dangles from the handlebars, “But I have my helmet!”

@Paul #13. Canada has single-payer government health insurance so, if someones head gets crunched, the government pays. As long as I’m paying my own health insurance, they should stay out of it. Fact is, I do wear a helmet but I’d gladly accept a helmet law in exchange for National health Insurance.

will PBOT have a “yard-sale” with the old signs? I would like to buy one for my room and another for a XMAS present. I am sure PBOT could raise at least $1,000 selling old signage, which could be reinvested in sharrows and other bike infrastructure.

Me, shortly after moving to Portland this summer: “Wow! Bike signs!”

Me, now: “Wow! Better bike signs!”

As far as metric distances are concerned, I’d like to see them in addition to miles. Km makes me feel like I’ve ridden farther & gotten more of a workout.

Km and miles? No: information overload. Either we make the leap and go metric, or not. Please, KISS.

I agree, let’s just go to SI and get it over with; quit proving to the rest of the world that we’re not a first world country.

Metric Map: Which Countries Don’t Belong With The Others?

http://matadornetwork.cachefly.net/matadorabroad.com/docs//wp-content/images/posts/20100203-metric.jpg

@ Paul and Aaron:

I agree about the ugliness of the signs. Do they not employ any competent designers?

PBOT seems to be on a tear when it comes to non-compliance with the MUTCD –I’m thinking of the use of sharrows as wayfinders on low-traffic “neighborhood greenways”– but there appears to be zero consequence for flaunting the standards.

MUCH better
BUT: why is the text not left aligned and the arrows on the right side as all other roadway signs?

its not we have to reinvent the wheel here folks.