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Local layoffs at Mountain Cycle, Specialized settlement progresses

Posted by Jonathan Maus (Publisher/Editor) on March 20th, 2006 at 2:48 pm

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The news is no longer simmering, it is boiling over. Kinesis, the Taiwanese parent company of Mountain Cycle has decided to chart a new course for the local bike brand. The future of the brand is still up in the air, but my sources tell me that it will not include Portland. So that's the end of Mountain Cycle as we know it.

Kinesis gave employees a days notice before letting them go. Only one employee remains at their "dead" offices on North Williams Street, and he is there to liquidate remaining inventory.

There's been a lot of speculation about what extent the Specialized saga played into Mountain Cycle's demise. Many people in the community are jumping to the conclusion that Specialized caused this to happen. That is definitely not the case. I know for a fact that Kinesis and Specialized are currently negotiating an amicable settlement to the case. I also know that this settlement may include Mountain Cycle changing the name of their Stumptown cyclocross bike to "Stumptown OR". This is an agreement that both sides seem to be cool with but an official agreement has yet to be signed.

Why does the Specialized situation matter now that Mountain Cycle is no longer? Well, Kinesis just wants to clear up any doubt about the legal situation so as not to scare away potential buyers of the Mountain Cycle brand.

I will keep you informed of any further developments.

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  • Scott Mizée March 20, 2006 at 2:53 pm

    hmmmm... guess I won't be buying a New Stumptown bike in the next couple of years.... at least not one like the one featured in your earlier posts.

    Glad to hear the "lid is finally off the pot/pan."

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  • Anonymous March 20, 2006 at 4:52 pm

    If Specialized wasnt the reason for this and if Mtn Cycles is disolving as seems to be the case, why did they have to come up with a settlement and change the name? Furthermore, if there wasnt an actual lawsuit, but a letter to cease and desist, why is there a settlement? I think Kinesis is trying to play it down so they can still get contracts from Specialized to build bikes overseas.

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  • Chriss Pagani March 20, 2006 at 7:39 pm

    Some people don't get it, I know: Specialized WANTED to put Mountain Cycle out of businees, it's their style. Regardless of whether something else got them or not, people really need to stand up against this kind of bullying.

    As I said before, the bad guys always win unless good people stand up against them - so I'm still renaming my bike Stumptown and daring them to sue me.

    Come on, assholes, where are your hot shit lawyers, hmm? Slimeballs.

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    • jake felt March 14, 2014 at 2:18 am

      Ok.. you can't tell me the fellas at specialized are dumb.. they make the best bikes in the world, period, always have and probably always will. This is because their designs and innovations have improved quality of life for cyclists without ever pumping out any garbage. Mountain cycle, on the other hand.. not so much. In my opinion they were innovators at one time, when innovating was a hell of a lot easier, they rested on their laurels instead of continuing to be passionate about improving cycling for the good of the whole.. Specialized is the most ripped off company in cycling, their stuff is so good that the rest of the market has no choice but to make something better, or try to adopt as closely as possible without infringing on what specialized has clearly developed with their own engineering, investment and foresight. Most companies can't pull-off the former, so they try to sneak by with the latter, which is obviously lame and un-American.. nothing wrong with protecting what is yours, it forces companies to be creative instead of just ripping-off existing innovation. I know we're just talking about the name of a bike here, but ripping off is ripping off.. i say good on specialized for protecting what is theirs, it's not their fault mountaincycle has been on it's last leg for over a decade. Besides, if a company can't even muster enough creativity to at least name a bike without copying, do you really want to support or even be seen on one? Just a thought.

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    • jake felt March 14, 2014 at 2:30 am

      And i think you are probably safe from specialized trying to sue you personally.. sounds romantic and would help support your claim, but unfortunately there are still quite a few companies trying to rip them off that will most likely garner a bit more attention than you riding down the street without duct tape covering your bikes ripped off name. Pretty sure, anyway.

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  • Jonathan Maus March 20, 2006 at 9:23 pm

    I just realized that I didn't explain why coming to a settlement with Specialized still matters, even though Mountain Cycle is over. I added the following to the post to clear that up:

    "Why does the Specialized situation matter now that Mountain Cycle is no longer? Well, Kinesis just wants to clear up any doubt about the legal situation so as not to scare away potential buyers of the Mountain Cycle brand."

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  • revphil March 20, 2006 at 11:18 pm

    thaks for the report jonathan. You said:

    "Many people in the community are jumping to the conclusion that Specialized caused this to happen. That is definitely not the case. I know for a fact that Kinesis and Specialized are currently negotiating an amicable settlement to the case"

    could you please provide some rational as to why these are exclusive conditions? Couldn't Specilized have pushed for this, AND have pleasant negotiations?

    rev

    btw are we screwing up Kinesis' situation with our conspiracy loving hearsay?

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  • Jonathan Maus March 20, 2006 at 11:43 pm

    Good questions rev. These are not neccessarily exclusive conditions in every case. It just so happens that these are the facts of this particular situation. How do I know that? Because I've been following all of this very closely for several months.

    And as for whether or not we're "screwing up Kinesis' situation with our conspiracy loving hearsay"...it's hard to say. Maybe we're helping it.

    I'm not sure how aggressively Kinesis is looking for a Mountain Cycle buyer, but if they are, and the potential buyer/investor comes across the comments on this site, I think they'll see that Mountain Cycle is a brand that the bike community stands behind. Or, the potential buyer might be turned off by all of it...who knows?

    I think the most interesting part of this whole thing is how none of the companies involved has respected this community enough to communicate with us directly. I mean here you have arguably the country's biggest and most active bike community speculating about the facts and trying to understand what's going on and still there's no statement from anyone.
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    Hello Specialized and Kinesis...we are the people who pay your salaries. We buy your stuff. We are smart people. We are not just "markets" or "customers". This is where we gather to share ideas. Where are yours? Why don't you participate on our level instead of hiding behind your office walls? Markets are conversations but so far you haven't said a word. What are you afraid of?

    Hope to hear from you soon...

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  • David Forestein March 21, 2006 at 4:12 am

    BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT ALL SPECIALIZED PRODUCTS AND KINESIS FORIEGN products. The right thing to do for our bike culture, our local Oregon economy, the environment and for fair labor practices is to very systematically shut them out of our economy by simply not buying ANYTHING. We have amazing power to affect Specialized business.

    I agree with Joshua, Ayleen, Patrick.eEllis and many other fromthe thread that started this debate.

    I have people at Mountain Cycle who had no idea this was happening until the very day they received word not to show up the following day. FU Specialized. FU corporate Kinesis.

    We can make little 1/4 page signs with little rubber bands to put on bikes all over PDX informing the public about the situation and a boycott.

    I asked others to join in crafting the flyer and we can get the ball rolling today.

    ORGANIZE:
    I am organizing a second boycott meeting right across the street from the actual Mountain Cycle factory on N Williams and N Failing at the NE PIX Patisserie coffee and dessert location. ( It is real close to NE Fremont) as I recall. For tonight Friday the 24th at 8 PM. Building is already up for lease.

    Hope see you all there, thanks for the folks who came to the first meeting.

    I believe in PORTLAND. And that takes a strong committement to DIY culture, our local environmentally friendly economy, and our way of life. This is not NYC this is not any city in California. THIS IS PORTLAND. It is our unique place and we can do it our way and support our culture.

    People are living here from Oregon and everywhere else to help make things happen with …

    Portland People Power.

    Now I wonder if we can get our civic leaders and Potland Development Commission to help support the workers starting their own company to continue a STUMPTOWN banded bike to shove in the faces of Specialized.

    See you all Friday.
    David

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  • Rodman March 21, 2006 at 6:19 am

    I hear all about support local business on these blogs. Yet people stood by Mountain Cycle so much they went out of business. It's easy to stand by a company when they are disappearing it makes a good read. Everyone seems to shop the big guy, then bitch when the little guy leaves town or goes out of business. Where was the business that you say they deserved, and did you give it to them before it was a hot button issue.

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  • Jim F March 21, 2006 at 10:03 am

    It's so typically Portland to automatically condemn big business. To make a demonstration even more Portland, we should also make it about the police. And Walmart. Let's make it more efficient for our protesters!

    But seriously, being an attorney and having been involved in so many of these trademark disputes (on both sides), I still can't see how the Specialized letter and any settlement had any effect on Kinesis. If we were talking about Mountain Cycles one main product, and if Specialized had sued them and obtained an injunction prohibiting the sale of the bikes, then, yeah, maybe.

    But we're talking about an ancillary product, no lawsuit, no injunction, and a quick and very cheap resolution of the problem. It's a non-issue, but I can see how fun and convenient it is to turn this into a "boycott Specialized" hoo-haw.

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  • Dabby March 21, 2006 at 10:22 am

    Yes, I somewhat agree with the sillyness of boycotting somehow who we should maybe just let go away.....
    If they don't want to stay here. Bye.
    If they want to leave, and continue fighting for the name of a bike that would really only apply to a bike actually made here, then bye....
    I feel for those who lost jobs fully. There is a lot of work here in Portland, let's dp something like help them get jobs....
    How about organizing for that, a job faire for laid off employees, instead of a boycott of a company that apparently doesn't give a crap anyway.
    The energy put into a boycott should be properly channelled and better spent.
    Unless........... this is being done as part of a job greivance. Maybe making some noise can make people feel better about their situation.....

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  • Bill March 21, 2006 at 10:35 am

    This thing is about channeling our energy in a good positive direction. I think its about consumers making better choices in the future and getting educated about brands that take care of their employees and community. If we continue to shop the big brands that have product built overseas, then we will continue to see more and more jobs go overseas to people who should make much more than they are. I for one have and will continue to spend more for the product I buy in order to make markets, communities and wages stronger for everyone.
    More overseas jobs, more Walmarts, etc means more minimum wage for everyone. we seem to be in a big, FAST race to the bottom. step up and do the right thing. support sustainable, respectable, local businesses that do the right thing...

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  • Russell March 21, 2006 at 10:43 am

    Trademark disputes do create local high paying jobs for lawyers like Jim F. If you want more local jobs, support more local litigation. Think globally, sue locally.

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  • Scott Mizée March 21, 2006 at 12:38 pm

    sheesh.... I wonder what it would be like if all of us were in one room discussing this issue.

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  • Kirsty Hall March 21, 2006 at 1:36 pm

    How sad. Whilst I would find it awfully hard to attribute their Portland closure to the recent Stumpjumper/Stumptown escapade, this article DID nonetheless prompt me to finally write that little ole' letter to Specialized, condoning their actions and stance towards Montain Cycles as of late.

    And you can do so too if you like!

    customerservice@specialized.com

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  • Jonathan Maus March 21, 2006 at 5:15 pm

    By the way, KATU-TV wanted to do a story on this but when they realized Specialized wasn't the cause of the demise, they lost interest in the story.

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  • fred jenkins March 21, 2006 at 11:25 pm

    I just heard at a church meeting that the lawsuit was settled out of court. i'm unhappy to report that it was a win for both. specialized will change the name of the stumpjumper to "lumppumper" and kinesis will change the name of the stumptown to "humptown." i think this is the sign of the times and the lack of morals in our society.

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  • MOUNTAIN CYCLE... sort of March 22, 2006 at 12:08 am

    Hey everybody-

    This is Rob Lindberg, sales/mktg director at MC until yesterday. First off, thanks for your support through these interesting times at Mountain Cycle. It really means a lot to all of us... probably more than you know.

    I wanted to respond to what Jonathan had to say above:
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    I think the most interesting part of this whole thing is how none of the companies involved has respected this community enough to communicate with us directly. I mean here you have arguably the country’s biggest and most active bike community speculating about the facts and trying to understand what’s going on and still there’s no statement from anyone.

    Hello Specialized and Kinesis…we are the people who pay your salaries. We buy your stuff. We are smart people. We are not just “markets” or “customers”. This is where we gather to share ideas. Where are yours? Why don’t you participate on our level instead of hiding behind your office walls? Markets are conversations but so far you haven’t said a word. What are you afraid of?

    Hope to hear from you soon…
    _____

    Jonathan has a good point and I wanted to respond to you all... besides, I'm up late and don't have work tomorrow... :-(. Definitely respect the cycling community here... I personally have just unplugged from everything for the last few days. This was an unexpected blow to all of us at Mountain Cycle.

    It's not a good idea for me to get into details right now, but I do want to share some info. Jonathan's post about this was pretty much spot on. Last Thursday, a few of us were given a one day notice... yeah. One person is staying on to help the inventory situation. Because of some things (can I get any more vague than that?... sorry, hope you understand) with our parent company, they decided to basically shut down current operations asap and talk to possible buyers.

    Specialized honestly did not have a role in this. We had come to a potential agreement that we were going to make official. All was going well with that issue.

    This came as a surprise to all of us. We were turning things around, people were excited about the brand again, we had great plans for the product line, marketing etc etc. We were excited to build MC up into a solid brand here in Portland.

    On a personal note, I came up here from San Luis Obispo, CA 4 years ago when Kinesis purchased the company. I left the company for almost 2 yrs, but came back last summer because of the changes and potential... I was very excited to help build MC into the company it can be. I love Portland and the community... what an awesome place to live and ride. This is truly an incredible city and I'm stoked my MC career took me here. Every employee at Mountain Cycle loves this place and is proud to call STUMPTOWN home. Anyway, not to get all sappy, but you should know the company peeps really dig being a part of this community.

    Sooooo, here we are. There is a lot going on behind the scenes right at this time and I should leave it at that for now.

    Again, thanks tons for all your posts, personal emails, phone calls etc through this... to have the community stand up, get involved and show support like this has been really cool. Until next time-

    Rob

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  • Captain Crunk March 22, 2006 at 11:12 am

    Rumor has it that there will be an official press release from Kinesis on Monday, when the CEO returns from Taiwan with the "official" story. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Stumptown issue had absolutely nothing to do with the demise of Mountain Cycle.
    By the way Jonathan, the people hiding in their offices do not even know that this cycling community exists. We really are just numbers and potential sales to them. Do you think that anyone in Taiwan reads this? Do you think that anyone at Specialized reads this? It is not a matter of respecting this community enough to communicate on this website...it is a matter of being completely oblivious to the fact that this community even exists! The people who are most affected by all of this are the people who actually ARE a part of this cycling community!
    On another note...it is pretty awesome that Portlanders feel the need to be so involved in issues like this. That is one of the things that makes this place GREAT!
    Now stop speculating and start riding!!!

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  • Robert Crispin March 22, 2006 at 3:41 pm

    Cool I won't put a "not" sign around the Specialized tattoo (I got back in the day when they were the little guy) just yet.

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  • Tim March 22, 2006 at 5:22 pm

    Captain Crunk
    I'd really surprised if you, or the majority of the people on this forum are more into bikes than the small group of us from Mountain Cycle. You must realize that Mountain Cycle is primarily a Mountain Bike company where we ride for fun and recreation. This forum is from what I've seen, for the most part based on bicycle commuting, politics, and road riding.

    On any given Thursday you will find EVERY Mountain Cycle employee (or former employee) at the indoor BMX track / skatepark located in Milwaukie riding, racing, and pushing each other to go faster and develop greater skills. Every weekend you can be assured that we will be out finding adventure on our bikes, typically inviting along all our customers or potential customers to go out and enjoy Oregon's fantastic mountain bike trails.

    Please don't confuse the Kinesis Taiwan parent company with the actual "Mountain Cycle" people.

    I'm not an official spokesman for the company. I don't really know what's going on with this thing or how long my job will last, but I felt like making a post.

    It's so funny to me all the people who are showing concern for Mountain Cycle now, yet chose to buy a bike from our competitors. Those who do have Mountain Cycles will continue to get all the support and service I am capable of while I remain here, however long that may be.

    I hope I don't come off as being a jerk or anything. I love bikes, I love Portland, and I have loved working at Mountain Cycle.

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  • Eirik March 26, 2006 at 6:02 am

    Damn! Does this mean I won't get my MC SA DNA which I've paid and am waiting for? Do I get a refund if this is the case?

    -Eirik, Norway

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  • Tim March 27, 2006 at 9:01 am

    Eirik,
    You'll get your frame. The DNA is probably already on it's way to you.

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  • Eric March 27, 2006 at 2:35 pm

    It makes me sad to see something like this go down, for whatever reason. I hope that somehow, the MC name will be resurected very soon and that next Cross season, the Stumptown will be visible. The remaining bikes will be a hot commodity... if you're local to PDX, you know where to get them...

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  • Nik March 27, 2006 at 5:58 pm

    Hi Eric,
    I am a very very big fan for MC for years!
    So whats going on here today?Who bully who?
    What had happened with MC?

    Eric,
    How can I contact you?Do you mind drop me an email nyeap@hotmail.com

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  • incognito March 28, 2006 at 12:56 pm

    The story is: Kinesis didn't want to loose their contracts to Specialized and other "Big Name" bike companies to build bikes for them under their name. They were more than willing to cave in Mountian Cycle to keep those contracts intact. Mountain Cycle was a casualty of future sales and business for Kinesis. It's as simple as that. If your in business and one of your top 5 customers that represents a huge part of your annual revenue threatens to stop doing business with you unless you drop a product line, what are you gonna do?

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  • Trouble March 29, 2006 at 4:40 pm

    Kirsty Hall, what the hell are you thinking!? A letter to Specialized "CONDONING" their stance toward MC!? Didn't you mean to say CONDEMNING their stance? This is too much of a coincidence to say that Specialized had nothing to do with MC's closure. I think "Incognito" nailed it right on the head. Kinesis bailed out because of Specialized and no one from either company is talking, as stated by Rob. And hell, he should know better than anyone. My friend is out of a job and I don't like that! And Kirsty is ready to praise Specialized about it. WTF!!? Both companies can BURN! And you should apologize Kirsty. Signed, Trouble

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  • [...] Michael Chen, president of Mountain Cycle and board member of parent-company Kinesis, has just released the first official statement regarding the local layoffs and shutdown of Mountain Cycle. [...]

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  • Andrew May 27, 2006 at 5:13 am

    I have been seriously thinking about buying a mountain cycle zen and have just read all the news about MC being no more and being owned by kinesis etc etc.
    2 questions:
    Are the MC frames actually hand welded in the USA or are they built abroad and simply assembled in the USA?
    How difficult will it be to get a hold of replacement parts (derailluer hangers, suspension bearings/pivots) if MC is no more??
    The last bike I bought was a Tomac and they went out of business too. Maybe I am a jinx?

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  • Tim May 30, 2006 at 8:02 am

    Most of the Zen frames are welded in Taiwan and then finished and assembled in Portland.

    Mountain Cycle is still in buisness, welding frames and shipping out orders. (For now)

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  • Jiwa Jiwa June 8, 2006 at 2:34 pm

    incognito nailed it.

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  • Tim June 8, 2006 at 3:30 pm

    I'd be really surprised if Specialized had anything to do with the trouble at Mountain Cycle.

    Has anyone saw the "Pacific RockStomper"? Here's a photo of the bike I saw parked outside the Lucky Lab. [IMG]http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/Tim_Parker/RockStomper.jpg[/IMG]
    http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/Tim_Parker/RockStomper.jpg That's a blatant rip-off of the RockHopper name, even the same font. Anyone heard anything about this?

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  • Zack June 19, 2006 at 6:21 pm

    This totally pisses me off. After not hearing anything about Mountain Cycle for a long period of time, I became concerned with the company. Those bikes that they were showing at Interbike, such as the slopestyle rig and the Shockwave 9.5 SL, were a couple of the most beautiful bikes I have ever seen. Mountain Cycle was the first brand that I ever demo'ed at a race when I began considering a mountain bike. Well Kinesis, you can't expect me to give you any business EVER.

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  • incognito June 20, 2006 at 7:11 am

    The problem for us Portlanders is we really didn't support MC very well. This was a product line for Kinesis that was not making any money, so it was an easy decision for them to close up shop. It was a business decision for K, drop MC and save big contracts that are making them money. The only thing we can do now is to boycott Specialized products. There are still some "stumptowns" to be had, go see Bill @ Cyclepath and pick one up. Then ride it, that makes a statement more than anything else, including comments on this forum. I bought a red one, there are limited sizes left.

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  • Tim June 20, 2006 at 9:16 am

    I'd say the Stumptown frame was somewhat responsible for the trouble at MC in that it was conceived and built at a time when all the MC employees were road riders who had little if any interest in Mountain Cycle's line of mountain bikes. They wanted a bike to ride and still have a connection with the company. Mountain bike companies must progress or die. There were lay-offs of the old, then new people who were all serious riders were brought onboard Mountain Cycle. Things were looking great with a new focus on cutting edge frames. Then...

    Zack, let me know if you want to try the 9.5 SL, Battery slopestyle, or any other MC bikes. I'm still working here.

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  • Sean Younk June 22, 2006 at 10:32 pm

    I would love to come check out a 9.5 SL.

    I am new to the DH/Freeride arena, and these are the best looking bikes I have ever seen.
    It was quite dissapointing to hear the company was out of business before I could even find one!

    What is next for MC?

    I anyone going to start this back up?

    I sure wish I was about ten years closer to my retirement. I would love to take a stab at this company.

    Do you still have any 9.5 SL's left?

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  • Tim June 23, 2006 at 8:30 am

    Thanks Sean,

    The prototype 9.5 SL from Interbike is sitting here a few feet from me. I'd let you try it out. Here's a shot of my own bike, http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/Tim_Parker/HPIM0527.jpg

    Michael Chen is away working on a business deal for Mountain Cycle. He should send out a press release once a deal has been made.

    Tim
    503 294-4340 ext 26
    tparker@mountaincycle.com

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  • [...] I have just gotten official word from Kinesis USA President Michael Chen that Mountain Cycle has been sold. I don’t have many confirmed details yet (rumors abound), but I expect to hear more from Chen very soon. As most of you already know, Kinesis USA (parent company of Mountain Cycle) shut down the North Portland based company back in March and issued this rather mean press statement justifying their decision. [...]

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  • Eirik (The guy with the San Andreas DNA from Norway) July 5, 2006 at 8:56 am

    Tim: Have you still got the Battery Slopestyle and The 9.5 SL at your place? I´m in The Dalles visiting some friends of the family for the time beeing and we´re going for a trip to Portland as well. I´d really love to come have a look (and perhaps a try?) on some of the prototype MC bikes.

    As I´m a moderator on utfor.com, the largest DH/FR internetsite in Norway, I can tell you that a LOT of guys have been stoked about the Battery an really bummed out that it hasn´t gone into production yet. It would be really cool to get to test it first hand.

    I´ll probably give you a call if you don´t mind.

    Best regards
    Eirik, Norway

    -Who´s gotten his DNA and is VERY pleased with it. (It certanly have made up a stir wherever I go on the circuit in Norway) Here´s a piture of my build: http://home.no.net/megatryn/bilder/San%20Andreas%20Pose.jpg

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  • Tim July 5, 2006 at 12:24 pm

    Hahaha, great photo!
    I was actually in Hood River Friday thru Monday doing some camping, drinking, riding, drinking, getting sun burn, and drinking.

    Go ahead and contact me here at work, the local Portland commuting community isn't interested in hearing about Mountain Cycle, mountain bikes, locally made bikes, or riding bikes for the fun of it.

    Here's some photos from this weekend and what bike riding is all about!

    http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/Tim_Parker/KingsleyWeekend/HPIM0881.jpg
    http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/Tim_Parker/KingsleyWeekend/HPIM0866.jpg
    http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/Tim_Parker/KingsleyWeekend/HPIM0857.jpg
    http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/Tim_Parker/KingsleyWeekend/HPIM0870.jpg
    http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/Tim_Parker/KingsleyWeekend/HPIM0893.jpg
    http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/Tim_Parker/KingsleyWeekend/HPIM0894.jpg

    Tim

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  • incognito July 5, 2006 at 1:41 pm

    Tim,
    Glad you got your drinking in: as far as your statement: the local Portland commuting community isn’t interested in hearing about Mountain Cycle, mountain bikes, locally made bikes, or riding bikes for the fun of it.
    This was part of the reason MC was so easy for big K to give up. Know your demographic! The Portland Cycling Community is a big one and supports several builders, (the wait for Sacha's work is 18 months)If MC had made something for the cycling community other than Downhill and Freeride bikes (nothing that there's anything wrong with them) but that part of the total cycling market in Portland is small. MC in it's unwillingness to offer the Portland Cycling Community something other than 1 cross frame, and 1 road frame, is part of it's own demise. I know a lot of cyclists from all different discplines, and we all "ride for the fun of it". Why didn't MC offer custom frames? Hardtails? more road frames? Different frame materials? commuter frames? etc. etc. MC would have seen a lot more local support from Portland Cyclists if it had given Portland something more to support. FWIW I bought a "Stumptown" as it was the only bike MC made that I could support, I'm not a downhill/freerider. I know a lot of cyclists whom would have supported MC as well, but you gave them no options.
    Not to offend you Tim, just responding to your statement of the lack of support By the local cycling community. FWIW.

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  • Tim July 5, 2006 at 2:44 pm

    Incognito

    I based my statement on "the local commuting community". I have nothing but respect for Portland's "quality" frame builders such as Vanilla and Strawberry, but again who needs such a nice bike to simply commute to work and back?

    I see no need for any commuter bike to cost more than $600 tops. And cannot imagine anyone will feel the quality of the workmanship until after the bike is stolen and your wallet is empty. Then again, that is money better spent than being wasted on a dumb SUV or something.

    Mountain Cycle does offer several models including the Rumble hardtail. Know your subject matter, at least glance at the website first.

    In the past there have been MC Tri, road, and BMX frames to go along with the current alum./carbon road frame with carbon fork, softail cyclocross frame, hardtail mtb, lightweight cross country 4" full suspension frame, 5" travel trail bike frame, 6" all mountain frames, as well as the 7" and 9-1/2 travel freeride and downhill frames.

    The hardtail Mountain Cycle Rumble mountain bike frame is advertised on countless websites and magazine ads for $200-$229 with a large sized frame making a fine all-around fun bike. This low price should be affordable to anyone who wished to support the local company.

    All the Stumptown cyclocross frames were built at the end of '03 and have only recently been sold off. Rumble hardtails sales average a dozen per week.

    I always have fun when I ride and you'll see it on my face when you catch me riding around town on one of my bikes. To me it's all about "recreation" and not "transportation". I've been riding in and around Portland for 31 years now and still find joy in the simplest bike rides. It's rare that I see another bicyclist with any hint of smile as I tour Portland. How sad:(

    Take a second and click the photo links I posted. This is a typical weekend for me bicycling in Oregon. When was the last time you rode somewhere this nice and had so much fun?

    Bikes are fun,

    Tim

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  • incognito July 5, 2006 at 2:59 pm

    Tim,
    Once again, not to offend you. But the hardtail I was reffering to was the typical XC bike not the "Dirt Jumper" or "4 cross" style of hardtail that the "Rumble" is. Yes, I have seen the website and currently you list 8 bikes, 6 of which are aimed at the freeride market. All I was saying is: If you want the support of the Community, you have to offer them the products that represent that demographic. I did my part, I bought a cross bike, but if you hadn't offered one, what am I supposed to do? Take a freeride bike to the CrossCrusade? Or do a road ride on one? Do you see my point? It's all water under the bridge anyhow, good luck to you as I've heard of your new parent co. Hopefully you can stay in Portland and MC can diversify, or morph into a larger player in the bike biz. However, that doesn't mean you have to stop making, or riding Downhill/Freeride. :)

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