Truck driver Paul Thompson wants you to know he’s sorry for role in deadly crash

Paul Thompson.
(Photos: Jonathan Maus/BikePortland)

In the early morning hours of August 21st, 2017, Paul Thompson was on his usual route picking up recycled cardboard from businesses in Portland’s central eastside industrial district. A truck driver for over three decades, Thompson had a spotless record before that morning.

After a stop to empty the bins at All Service Moving on Southeast Morrison, he drove south on Water Avenue. Then he turned left onto Taylor and his life changed forever.

In that intersection Thompson and his truck collided with 41-year-old Tamar Monhait, who was bicycling north on Water. She died from the impact.

Thompson’s truck just moments after the collision.
(Captured from video taken by Water Avenue Coffee)

In October 2018 I got an email from Thompson. He wanted to talk and share his side of the story. I met him yesterday at the Burgerville on Southeast 122nd near Parkrose High School, just a couple miles from his home in the Wilkes neighborhood of east Portland.

As Thompson shared his story he oscillated between a warm smile (he’s a jovial guy) and a voice that quivered with regret as his face fought away tears during heart-wrenching recollections.

“There are some things I probably did wrong,” he recalled, as he stared out into the grey January rain. Throughout our conversation I could tell he fully accepted his role in what happened.

He said would have never been at that intersection at that time on August 21st if it wasn’t for the total solar eclipse. He started his route early that day with hopes of getting home in time to snap photos of it. A fan of astronomy-related conspiracy theories and an avid listener to Coast to Coast, a popular radio talk show that covers them, Thompson said he was excited to see the eclipse.

But it’s what he didn’t see in the darkness that morning that haunts him to this day.

“I’m looking down the road, just looking for lights or movement. And I’m not seeing anything. I’m not on my phone or anything, just driving,” Thompson said, recounting what happened in the moments before impact. “I think I had my four-way flashers on and I put on my signal,” he added. Then he said he wasn’t sure if the signal stayed on for the turn. The way he tells it, Thompson didn’t make a smooth left turn. He admittedly turned a bit too early, then tried to correct his trajectory — and in that twisting motion he said his blinker might have switched off. Then another thing happened during that left turn. “And this is the weirdest thing,” Thompson recalled, “I get up to the corner of Taylor and Water — and I still thought it was perfectly clear and didn’t see anything — but there was a guy walking over here [on the sidewalk to his left near Bunk Sandwiches]. I wanted to make sure he wasn’t going to walk across the street. So I looked over at him, and I’m turning, and then I turned back and looked out the other window and I said, ‘Holy Fuck!’ here comes the bicyclist.”

In video of the collision captured from a nearby business, it’s clear Thompson’s truck ends up in the wrong lane (over the centerline) on Taylor. He said that happened because of a last-ditch effort to lessen the impact. “When I saw her I turned my wheel as far as I could to see if I could get out of her way. I saw her right in my window and I was trying to get the truck as far away from her as I could.”

It didn’t help. Monhait’s head struck the front of his truck and she died shortly thereafter.

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Thompson remembers getting out of his truck and going to her side as she lay on the street. Then he started talking to her.

“This is gonna be in my head for the rest of my life.”

“I said, ‘Forgive me’. I was rubbing her leg, saying, ‘People are coming. Hang in there. Hang in there. I’m so sorry about this.’ I was tearing up quite a bit.”

In the video, you can see Thompson bolt out of his truck’s cab and run to Monhait — then run away. He did that twice, in what looked like frantic movements brought on by the blur of confusion that surrounds tragedy. Thompson explained to me yesterday that seeing Monhait on the ground instantly took him back to a day in 2009 when his wife died. “Tamar was the same age as my wife when she fell down our stairs and died from a head injury. It sent me visions from that day. So I ran away.”

Some time later, as he sat watching investigators go through the scene, a police officer walked up to him and informed him that Monhait had passed away. “I thought, oh my gosh… It’s just heartbreaking…heartbreaking.”

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Several times in our conversation Thompson expressed regret for not making different decisions that morning. “Why didn’t I hit my air horn?” “Somehow I should have seen her before I made that turn.” “I want to turn back time and go straight.”

Thompson, now 56, was born in Nebraska. His father moved the family to Oregon when he was four. He has two kids, an 18-year-old son and 15-year-old daughter. He started driving garbage trucks in 1980 and used to have a route in the West Hills above Portland. He worked his way up to operations manager at one point, then realized management wasn’t for him and went back to being a driver.

After the crash, his employer (Republic Services) gave him paid time off. His company-provided attorney told him to not read comments about the crash on the Internet. “But I was at home doing nothing,” Thompson shared, “So of course I started reading them.” Thompson read comments from people who sympathized with him in The Oregonian. “On your site though,” he said. “Some people were very angry. Some said they should put me in jail.”

“I do care about people. I really cared about her. I tried to help her. I’m very sorry it happened and wish it didn’t happen. Not just cause of what’s happened to me, but what happened to her was the worst thing… she was too young.”

Thompson didn’t end up in jail. In the end he was charged with one traffic ticket for making a dangerous left turn (his lawyers got the failure to use a turn signal citation dismissed). The Multnomah County District Attorney declined to pursue a criminal case and he was never charged with Careless Driving so the Vulnerable Roadway User law — which would have given him a $12,500 fine, suspended license, and/or community service — wasn’t triggered.

A lawsuit filed by Monhait’s family was settled out of court. Republic allowed Thompson to come back to work a few months later; but not as a driver. He says they fired him unjustly in January 2018. “I think they just wanted to get rid of me,” he said. Getting fired meant he was unable to collect unemployment benefits. Thompson had trouble making ends meet before getting a job at another trash-hauling company, making substantially less per hour than he made at Republic.

Asked if he thinks justice has been served, Thompson said, “Yeah… I think so. I got a ticket. I lost my job. And no other place will hire me because of the incident. I’ve paid a price. I mean, I still feel terrible about it. This is gonna be in my head for the rest of my life. I even prayed to my wife, ‘Can you find her and say God bless her and I’m sorry?'”

Before sitting down with him, I wondered what Thompson’s true motivation was for wanting to talk. In my 14 years doing this site I’ve never had the driver in a fatal collision reach out to me like this. I asked why he contacted me: “I just wanted to say my truth to people,” he explained, “I felt like I needed to share it with somebody and you seemed like the best person to share it with.’

I also asked him what he hoped would come from our meeting. “That I’m not a bad guy that doesn’t care about people,” he said. “I do care about people. I really cared about her. I tried to help her. I’m very sorry it happened and wish it didn’t happen. Not just cause of what’s happened to me, but what happened to her was the worst thing… she was too young.”

Five days after Monhait died, her friends held a vigil at the intersection. Thompson was there. He brought his son with him and they watched from afar. “I said to him, ‘This is where it happened. This is a terrible thing. Look how I hurt all these people. Her friends and all these artists.”

___

Before parting ways Thompson and I talked about how he could help improve road safety by becoming an advocate and speaking out to more people about his experience. He said he’d be willing to do that. Trucks like his claim far too many lives in Portland and we must do more to prevent a tragedy like this from happening again.

— Jonathan Maus: (503) 706-8804, @jonathan_maus on Twitter and jonathan@bikeportland.org

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Middle of the Road Guy
Middle of the Road Guy
5 years ago

This is a nice write-up JM.

It’s always good to hear both sides of any story and a good reminder that be it rider or driver, we are all still human.

Mike C
5 years ago

Paul Thompson is an okay guy in my book.

MantraPDX
MantraPDX
5 years ago

Even though it nearly made me tear up I’m glad I had the opportunity to read this. It’s brave of Paul and I think it will help bring acceptance and closure for a lot of folks. What a tragedy for everyone involved.

Thanks for doing this Jon and Paul.

nuovorecord
nuovorecord
5 years ago

That took a lot of intestinal fortitude. Kudos to Paul.

dan
dan
5 years ago

I think this writeup underscores that even with a professional driver who is being cautious, there is room for human error. All the more reason we need infrastructure that minimizes opportunities for unsafe interactions.

Dan A
Dan A
5 years ago
Reply to  dan

I think we could get a long ways with mandatory black boxes on commercial vehicles.

9watts
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan A

I’d prefer something that brings home to the pilot or driver—in the moment, every moment—what the risks and danger of the vehicle are: a six inch steel spike in the center of the steering wheel I think communicates this much more clearly than any black box could. Black boxes only tell us what happened after the fact, they do nothing or very little to dissuade risky moves.

Is also like to add my appreciation to both Paul and Jonathan for this piece. Very important counterpoint to the scapegoating and shouting which our country has produced of late.

Dan A
Dan A
5 years ago
Reply to  9watts

I think Portland could mandate GPS fleet tracking from its contractors a lot faster than it could mandate steering wheel spikes.

9watts
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan A

Sure.
But if pragmatism is our guide, we could instead mandate those deflectors that are meant to prevent people on foot or on a bike from being crushed under a turning truck? Lots of other devices could be mandated that plausibly would protect vulnerable road users directly, rather than giving us forensic date for ex post evaluations once someone dies.

Dan A
Dan A
5 years ago
Reply to  9watts

Do it both.

There should be no mystery as to how a commercial driver was driving after a fatal crash. It is inexcusable.

Sigma
Sigma
5 years ago
Reply to  9watts

Thank you for finally laying bare your belief that people who drive deserve to die.

9watts
5 years ago
Reply to  Sigma

I’m glad that my suggestion, which, incidentally is not my idea but John Adams’ * finally laid bare the risk of driving to you which apparently my other comments have not. The thinking underlying the spike in steering wheel idea anticipates “a redistribution of casualties, but also a reduction in the total number of casualties. Motorists driving with a heightened awareness of their own vulnerability would drive in a way that also benefited cyclists and pedestrians. Why then does the spike/explosives idea stand no chance of being adopted?”

* https://bikeportland.org/2015/03/30/monday-roundup-distracted-driving-action-reflective-spraypaint-136293#comment-6314794

Jason
Jason
4 years ago
Reply to  9watts

Idiot’s guide to Volkswagon had a lovely thought on that, regarding the bus. “If everyone drove around like a Mayan sacrifice, they might all be a little safer.” Or something.

Glennry Ford
Glennry Ford
5 years ago
Reply to  dan

Oh it’s ALL human error, baby! Seriously, the tragedy of this and the endless parade of similar incidents, is the very obvious fact that nobody can responsibly and safely pilot these vehicles. Our physiology and psychology evolved for running around on the savanna, on our two feet, at like 15mph tops (and that would’ve been just a short burst to get away from whatever-it-was). But ever since about 1910 we’re expected to catch and respond to chaotic stimuli coming at us at 20, 30, 40 mph and up? With eyes that saccade. And ears made useless by the sound of the engine. No my friend, that’s called traveling faster than you’ve got wits for. And carrying a load you haven’t earned the physical strength to carry, I might add. It’s really just kind of madness. Of course there are crashes under such a system. You’re right to want to be as far from it as possible; I only wish the people behind the wheel would do the same. It’s making victims of them too, in a way.

Clarence Eckerson
5 years ago

Here in NYC we have had far too many people die of recently due to sanitation trucks, private haulers and box trucks. Almost every time a pedestrian dies of late, it seems it’s a 50% chance it is one of those types of vehicles.

Thanks to both of you for this conversation. We need more drivers to talk more in public about these sorts of crashes in so much as 1) what we can figure out how they happen, 2) be able to hear how much these tragedies do also impact those on “the other side” and 3) what can be done with either new laws, training or changing road geometries.

Especially because we want these things to never happen again. They will. But we want to make the number as small as possible. So perhaps Paul (and others) can start talking to groups like Families for Safe Streets about how they can help the conversation move forward.

King Salmon
King Salmon
6 months ago

Review the video. Looks like the cyclist has no front light. Would it be OK for Paul and others to emphasize that drivers of cars cannot avoid hitting bikes they cannot see? Or is that taboo? If it isn’t state law, it should be; if you’re riding on public streets you need at least one flashing light in the front and the rear to get attention of drivers. Foolproof? Nope. Would it save lives? Probably.

William Henderson
5 years ago

This is heart breaking to read, but it also makes me so, so angry. Not at Paul but at the system we live in that puts people in conflict in this way. It’s simply unacceptable that such tiny errors in judgement frequently lead to someone dying.

Thank you Paul for sharing your story. It was a really human moment for me to read it and think about what it means for you, and for the friends and family of the victim. It spoke to me in a way that no crash report or statistic ever could. And it motivates me to redouble my efforts to fight for world where this doesn’t regularly happen.

Toby Keith
Toby Keith
5 years ago

Good write up Jonathan, thank you! If I recall, Tamar was riding without a light? Please correct me if I’m wrong. And PLEASE I’m not insinuating that absolves Paul of any fault BTW.

Steve Smith
Steve Smith
5 years ago

I’ve always thought the headlight is much more important than the rear light. As Paul said, “I’m looking down the road, just looking for lights or movement. And I’m not seeing anything.”

It’s likely a headlight would have prevented this crash from happening as the professional driver was looking for one. Tragic. Let Tamar’s tragedy educate the rest of us riding bikes. Use headlights.

Dan A
Dan A
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Smith

One of my takeaways from the incident was that failure to signal can be deadly to those around you, which is still true. But unfortunately we’re left never knowing whether or not it was used. I’m curious to know what happened with the civil suit, and how the liability was split.

King Salmon
King Salmon
6 months ago

Wow! That information should have been in the first paragraph!!!!!

Bjorn
Bjorn
5 years ago

This is a very different conversation than the one that I had with the person who hit me. I have mixed feelings about him because his quick action afterward ended up likely saving my leg, but he also blamed me for the collision and had little to no remorse afterward. I was lucky to survive being hit, but I wish that the conversations that I had with the man who hit me afterward had been much more like this than they were. I think that we should require a lot more community service type activities of people when they are involved in something like this. It sounds like for Paul it might be something he chooses to do without being required, but it also might have been something that he would have benefited from doing earlier.

9watts
5 years ago
Reply to  Bjorn

One version goes by the name: victim offender reconciliation.

King Salmon
King Salmon
6 months ago
Reply to  Bjorn

Read Jonathan Maus’ information a few comments above. In this case Jonathan confirmed that the cyclist had no front light, was intoxicated, and made no attempt to slow down as the truck crossed her path. YET Paul is very remorseful and his life has been adversely impacted BIG LEAGUE, even though it appears the cyclist was as much or more to blame than he was. Don’t know 1 thing about your crash, but were you both partially to blame? I would be remorseful no matter who was at fault if I hit someone while driving, and I think most people would be as well, but cyclists cannot expect punishment of drivers if they are not willing to be responsible enough to AT LEAST TRY to make themselves visible to drivers. We all must do our part. Accidents will still happen, but will be fewer. That is the best we can do if we are sharing the road. Same applies for deer hunters in many states; they must wear fluorescent orange, etc. Safety is important. No joke. C’mon man!

Ruth Weston
Ruth Weston
5 years ago

Thank you Paul for baring your soul. We’re all in this together.

B. Carfree
B. Carfree
5 years ago

Like everyone else, I don’t hear or see a monster in Mr. Thompson. However, I also don’t see a man fully owning what he has done. He hints at his distraction that morning without fully acknowledging that he wasn’t fully focused on the job at hand, which is an error that can, and in this case did, come with fatal consequences. Worse still, he is back behind the wheel. I simply cannot comprehend how a man whose mistakes have killed an innocent person would put himself in a position to make those same mistakes.

Here’s a little unsolicited advice from one former truck driver to one should-be-former truck driver: Paul, stop driving. People in their fifties need twice as much light to see objects as they did in their twenties. You clearly haven’t been willing to compensate for this age-related issue (you were driving too fast for your vision and that resulted in a needless death, among other sloppy mistakes). What other issues are you too proud to admit exist or simply ignorant of and thus aren’t adequately compensating for?

B. Carfree
B. Carfree
5 years ago

I am aware that he is not made of money, though I can also make an educated guess as to what his lifetime earnings to date are. (I have worked in the trucking industry a wee bit and wages aren’t exactly a big secret.) However, this is more a matter of values. By continuing to drive he is confirming that he values his standard of living more than he values other people simply being allowed to live.

That’s his LEGAL choice to make, but I question his morals. Had there been any indication in the interview that he is actively doing what he can to get out from behind the wheel, I’d have more sympathy, but it looks a lot like this is a person who enjoys driving trucks (it’s actually kind of fun) and won’t entertain the notion that the time has come to hang up the keys.

HJ
HJ
5 years ago
Reply to  B. Carfree

It’s utterly beyond me how professional drivers can retain their CDLs after killing someone while driving. (short of a finding of 100% not at fault) That should be automatic grounds for disqualification. While I can sympathize with the challenges of finding a new career (I’ve been going through this myself) it’s not impossible and there do need to be consequences for killing someone. Regardless of intent.

BikeRound
BikeRound
5 years ago
Reply to  B. Carfree

I believe that traffic laws need to be strictly enforced. But based on that line of thought, the bicyclist was also partially at fault in this collision for not having a front light, which is just simply inexcusable. I will be riding home from work tonight, and I am going to be operating two front lights. Also, I do not believe that all 50-year-olds require twice as much light at 20-year-olds to see something. A 50-year-old truck driver would be in most cases fully competent at his job.

Middle of The Road Guy
Middle of The Road Guy
5 years ago
Reply to  B. Carfree

Our agility and reflexes also decline. Perhaps it’s time to stop riding bikes.

Dan A
Dan A
5 years ago

Most of us are able to differentiate between the dangers imparted to others by improper operation of bicycles and garbage trucks.

9watts
5 years ago

“Perhaps it is time to stop riding bikes.”

Ah, Mr. False Equivalence is at it again.
Reflexes… Forks. Maybe we should stop using forks?! Or golf clubs?

Pete
Pete
5 years ago
Reply to  9watts

“Ruprecht, don’t take the cork off the fork.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eJ0iGZ7Ms8

q
q
5 years ago

Wouldn’t make more sense to say, “Perhaps it’s time to START riding bikes”?

That is, to replace the activity (driving) where your slower reflexes can kill people with one (biking) where you’re comparatively harmless to others?

PS
PS
5 years ago
Reply to  B. Carfree

We don’t hold this expectation for the operator of any other road going vehicle to remove themselves from the driver pool when their ability diminishes to a point that they could/actually do harm to another person, so why would we for someone who has an otherwise perfect commercial driving record? Until there is required in vehicle testing (for all drivers) at regular intervals, annually above 55 I would say, I don’t think this argument has a leg to stand on. I see atrocious driving habits from all people, but there is a skew to older folks for sure, and they certainly supply a much greater aggregate risk than a few trucks running around the city.

B. Carfree
B. Carfree
5 years ago
Reply to  PS

My statement that he should stop driving wasn’t from a legal perspective; it is a moral imperative. However, we do indeed compel people to cease driving at times because of a demonstrated physical limitation. My neighbor’s brother in law was recently banned from driving because of a medical condition, since fixed, that caused him to pass out while driving. However, you are correct that our standards are rather low.

That said, why or why should we insist that because we have been doing something poorly that means we should continue to do it that way?, The tens of thousands of unnecessary roadway deaths we see annually coupled with the millions of injuries are abundant evidence that we have people behind the wheel who don’t belong there. Can we not entertain the notion that we can do better?

billyjo
billyjo
5 years ago

And plenty of us think it fairly reckless to bike drunk without a light. As I read this I was wondering how long it would take for a comment like yours……

Dave
Dave
5 years ago
Reply to  billyjo

Bravo–when all of us cycle or walk we should remember that motor vehicles create diminished mental capacity in their operators. It’s on us to light up to the maximum degree which fortunately today is much better than in the era when some of us started cycling. Paul Thompson sounds like one of those rare conscientious drivers who is a good person and truly torn up by this.

Dave
Dave
5 years ago
Reply to  billyjo

Not indignant–it’s just that when we walk or cycle we are at the mercy of blind, retarded, hyperagressive subhumans so we have to be both sharper ourselves and equipped for visibility by those of lesser eyesight and alertness.

Jack C.
Jack C.
5 years ago
Reply to  billyjo

I think most “accidents” that don’t involve blatant recklessness occur when two or more people aren’t paying full attention. It comes down to bad luck and timing in such cases.

We call the same thing a “near miss” when one or more of the people sees the problem in time to avoid it. There’s no way to ever prevent such coincidences.

q
q
5 years ago
Reply to  Jack C.

They can’t be prevented entirely but they can be drastically reduced. Also not sure “most” accidents is true–I think it depends on how you define “blatant recklessness”.

Mike
Mike
5 years ago

Riding drunk without a headlight certainly played a part don’t you think? I know it is considered victim blaming but how isn’t that a consideration here?

I wear many hats
I wear many hats
5 years ago

Thank you for sharing Paul. It made me cry this morning. Everyone can agree to be more visible. It would have helped in this situation. When I ride I’m lit like a christmas tree but I ride like a ninja. I don’t do this to teach anyone a lesson, just to stay alive.

Q
Q
5 years ago

His prayers are pathetic. He should be in prison and the company who put him on the road should be out of business.

Paul
Paul
5 years ago
Reply to  Q

Probably 99% of everyone have made similar mistakes in their life and just got lucky that there was no one there to hit.

Dan A
Dan A
5 years ago
Reply to  Paul

True. I’m definitely more concerned with the regularly-aggressive and/or negligent drivers I encounter daily than I am with someone who is generally careful.

9watts
5 years ago
Reply to  Q

Your caustic tone is corrosive.
How about a little respect, a little deference to, or even appreciation of someone who is exposing himself unprompted to the judgements of the world. You and I aren’t even using our real names in the comments here. Doesn’t take much courage, by comparison.

Granpa
Granpa
5 years ago
Reply to  9watts

Not just exposing himself to the world, but through a portal used by those who have eagerly and thourghly vilified him. He killed a gal by mistake she’s dead, forever and he is a guy who fucked up royally and will live with that burden forever. It just sucks. There is no reason to doubt his sincerity.

SD
SD
5 years ago
Reply to  Granpa

If this is about my comment, I was referring to Q’s comment, not Paul, whom I greatly appreciate for coming forward.

SD
SD
5 years ago
Reply to  Q

To be honest, I doubt the sincerity of this comment.

q
q
5 years ago
Reply to  Q

I just want to point out that Q and I are different people.

Greg Spencer
Greg Spencer
5 years ago

What a heart-crushing story! And a terrific piece of journalism. As Portland strives to make its streets safer, it’s important to hear from both points of view: from the crash victims and their loved ones, AND from survivors who’ve taken away some hard lessons. Reading a story like Paul’s, it’s impossible not to feel a refreshed sense of the grave responsibility you undertake when you get behind the wheel of a motor vehicle. Paul acknowledges that one of his motives in speaking with Jonathan was to gain some sympathy from bikeportland readers, many of whom took him to be some kind of monster. He’s obviously not. It’s clear he has a profound sense of regret about certain actions leading up to the crash and that he feels terrible for Monhait and her family. I believe him when he says this crash will haunt him the rest of his days. The article’s postscript indicates that Paul is willing to follow through and share his story with other audiences as a way of safe-streets advocacy. I applaud that. Legacy Emanuel runs the Trauma Nurses Talk Tough program, where people who’ve suffered from road crashes share their stories with drivers facing serious traffic charges. Could be the right vehicle for Paul’s activism.

Charley
Charley
5 years ago

Terrific reporting of a horrible collision deeply involving two human lives. This website is a reminder of how journalism can make our world more humane.

Betsy Reese
Betsy Reese
5 years ago

I agree that there might be a public outreach role for this man with Families for Safe Streets. Maybe the beginning of an organizational branch for people like him? He seems to be seeking healing, and maybe, with assistance, his message could be more one of restorative justice and raising awareness among drivers than simply telling his side. He sounds like a good and sincere man.

Betsy

Mark smith
Mark smith
5 years ago

Yes, he should have done jail time. He admitted by his own careless actions that he killed someone’s daughter and friend. He failed to follow the law and he failed to follow safe practices as a driver. Every commercial driver knows their actions can lead to jail. Sorry. No sympathy. This guy makes drivers look bad and he killed. Lawyers bailed him out and now he wants people to feel sorry for him.

9watts
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark smith

From the tone of your post are we to infer that are the kind of person who would take the advice you are so freely giving here, if you were in his shoes?

mark smith
mark smith
5 years ago
Reply to  9watts

Well, it’s not like I went on the sprocketpodcast to more freely give my opinion. Feel free however to actually comment on my comment, not make it more personal.

This guy killed, lawyers bailed him out, he admitted to unsafe truck driving. BP should not be whitewashing this whole thing.

9watts
5 years ago
Reply to  mark smith

All I’m asking is whether you Are trying to convince us that in his shoes, having suffered only modest state-sponsored punishments for these deeds, you would walk yourself to jail?

q
q
5 years ago
Reply to  mark smith

I wouldn’t call it whitewashing, especially when this article is taken in context with the previous articles.

Kristent
Kristent
5 years ago

He should have been able to get unemployment benefits. There are only two ways you are absolutely denied benefits:

1– you quit your job
2– you are terminated for cause

In the case of #2, the former employer would need to prove to the state that you were terminated for cause. Very often, the state will still side with you as the terminated employee.

I know this from 20 years in the payroll and HR industry, working with employers across a LOT of industries. I am familiar with the process from the employer side.

HJ
HJ
5 years ago
Reply to  Kristent

So killing someone while on the job doesn’t qualify for terminated for cause? I honestly can’t think of a more legitimate reason.

mark smith
mark smith
5 years ago

HJ
So killing someone while on the job doesn’t qualify for terminated for cause? I honestly can’t think of a more legitimate reason.Recommended 1

Exactly.

mark smith
mark smith
5 years ago

9watts
All I’m asking is whether you Are trying to convince us that in his shoes, having suffered only modest state-sponsored punishments for these deeds, you would walk yourself to jail?Recommended 1


Are you asking if the shoe fits, wear it? Yes, if you kill innocents, while failing to follow the law (which he admitted to) then yes, everyone should face jail time. What are you getting on, get on with it.

Guy M
Guy M
5 years ago

I found this write up very well done. I also find many of the posts holier than thou. Paul is telling the story from his perspective. It was quite a heart wrenching event for him. Few have experienced death the way he has. Everyone reacts differently to an event like this. I have seen more than I care to see both while working in hospitals and palliative care with loved ones. I have seen families totally lose it sometimes for several days until they accept the loss. Paul’s reaction was totally understandable. Count yourself very lucky if you never have to go through something like this. If you do hopefully you will remember Paul’s story.

Those who call for his imprisonment obviously have NEVER made a mistake. Some posts I wonder if they have ever driven a car? If so you obviously have been able to see EVERY pedestrian and bicyclist. We are all human! I cant tell you how many close calls I have had both driving and riding a bike. Fortunately I haven’t injured anyone or been injured myself YET! I am a fairly cautious rider because I KNOW drivers cant see me as well, specially in the DARK. At the same time I see bicyclist who are almost belligerent or simply don’t know the rules of the road. I try to be a cautious driver but some bicyclists, pedestrians and scooters are quite unpredictable. Some either don’t know the rules of the road or simply don’t follow them. Also there are some who are pedestrians or bicyclists for very good reasons. What do you think happens to an alcoholic who has their drivers license revoked? IF they follow the law they become pedestrians and possibly bicyclists. Its much more difficult to put away the alcohol away. They can become alcoholic bicyclists or pedestrians. Just like alcoholic drivers for alcoholic bicyclists its only a matter of time before someone gets hurt or killed.

Paul is taking the appropriate amount of responsibility and maybe than his fair share of the guilt. The evidence shows he was not the only one who was at fault. May none of you have to go through the same thing as Paul has and may you all have a safe ride no matter your mode of transportation.

9watts
5 years ago
Reply to  Guy M

Thank you.

King Salmon
King Salmon
6 months ago

Not sure why a 5 year old article is “featured”, but I watched the video repeatedly at low and normal speed. Significant contributing factors APPEAR to be significant speed of both parties, no light on the front of the bike, and possibly concrete colored clothing of the rider but it is difficult to tell for sure in the video. Also, possible lack of paying attention and defensive driving on both parties; the cyclist should have seen the truck turning way before it crossed her path and clamped down the brakes, crashing if necessary to stop. Same for the truck driver BUT if the cyclist had no front light and he could not see her in time, then he can’t be blamed for hitting a nearly invisible bicycle. Sad outcome for all involved.