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Cycling through the Covid-19 outbreak

Posted by on March 12th, 2020 at 9:15 am

(Photo © J. Maus/BikePortland)

It all became very real yesterday. Actually, for those of us following this closely it’s been real for a while now. But Wednesday felt like the dam broke and we finally saw widespread acknowledgment — locally and nationally — that the Covid-19 outbreak is here and it’s time to act like it.

With mass cancellations and rising infections, it’s a scary time. I don’t know what comes next, but I know one of BikePortland’s roles will be to keep folks informed about how cycling is impacted by the outbreak and can (possibly) help mitigate its impacts. In 2012 while in New York City during Superstorm Sandy I saw first-hand how cycling is the most resilient form of transportation during a disaster.

First, some breaking news. The Oregon Bicycle Racing Association just announced that all races are cancelled for a minimum of 4 weeks. “This decision is difficult but we are confident is the correct one,” wrote OBRA Executive Director Chuck Kenlan. The news impacts several early-season mountain biking and road races like Echo Red-to-Red and University of Oregon Road Race (both slated for March 21st). It could also extend to the Mudslinger XC MTB race (4/4) and Gorge Gravel Grinder (4/5). This is a huge blow to race promoters who operate on razor-thin margins and rely on registration fees to make ends meet. It will also impact the small towns (like Echo, population 750) where the races take place. Given the complexity of the race calendar and permits required for racing bikes, it’s unlikely that all the events will be rescheduled.

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If you opt to ride instead of use transit you will open up space on buses and trains for others who don’t have that option.

While we won’t be racing for the next month, riding will actually be nicer than ever.

You probably already noticed that traffic is lighter than usual. Bicycle riders are hyper-aware of driving levels because watching traffic like a hawk is a big part of every trip. Now we have some data that proves it. According to the Portland Tribune, “Portland driving fell an average of almost 2% a day between March 4 and 7, with the biggest drop being 3.69% on Friday, March 6.”

And if you’re able to pedal a bicycle, it could be a good way to stay healthy and sane amid the outbreak. Research has shown that cycling boosts the immune system and we all know it can help reduce stress. There’s also a more pragmatic reason to bike — especially for those who usually rely on public transit. With social distancing essential, if you opt to ride instead of use transit you will open up space on buses and trains for others who don’t have that option.

In America’s most transit-dependent city, New York City, biking has already gone way up due to Covid-19. Mayor Bill DeBlasio even told New Yorkers, “Bike or walk to work if you can.”

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We’re also likely to see a bump in bike traffic because so many more people are working from home. With a change of clothes and bikes so close by, it’ll be much easier for people to take a “lunch ride” — especially if this nice sunny weather holds. Promise me though, that you won’t ride in a large groups and please refrain from blowing snot-rockets until this virus subsides.

Of course more people would bike if our streets welcomed them with safe facilities and if bike share was more accessible. With fewer people driving and the clear benefits of more people biking, the City of Portland should immediately re-allocate road space with temporary barriers to create more space for bicycle users.

Another thing to consider is to make Biketown free. The last time we made it free ridership doubled. Our electric scooters should also be expanded and subsidized to encourage ridership.

Then there are the small business impacts. As we know all too well with a rash of recent closures, these were tough times for local bike shops even before the outbreak. But how can you support them when you’re trying to stay home and limit public interactions? Former Gladys Bikes owner Leah Benson shared a fantastic idea on her Facebook page the other day: Pick up your phone or keyboard and purchase a gift certificate/gift card. “I’m going to spend money there in the future,” Benson said, “so why not offer up that money to them now. It’s like I’m creating a bunch of little mini-savings accounts all around the city.”

One last thing: If you’re hunkered down at home and want to get something delivered to you. Consider using bike-powered Cascadian Courier Collective. They offer quick food delivery from tons of the best places in town and they’re available 7 days a week. They also deliver pet supplies!

Do you have other tips and advice to share about cycling through the outbreak? Hang in there folks. Let’s all help each other get through this.

UPDATE, 9:55 am: The Street Trust says the Oregon Active Transportation Summit (OATS) has been postponed. It was planned for March 17-19. They will try to reschedule.

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    Jonathan Maus (Publisher/Editor) March 12, 2020 at 9:59 am

    UPDATE, 9:55 am: The Street Trust says the Oregon Active Transportation Summit (OATS) has been postponed. It was planned for March 17-19. They will try to reschedule.

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    9watts March 12, 2020 at 10:03 am

    Thanks, Jonathan.
    Another excellent piece.
    I won’t even quibble with this “Another thing to consider is to make Biketown free….” though I was tempted.

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      Jonathan Maus (Publisher/Editor) March 12, 2020 at 10:12 am

      oh please do quibble. i rely on readers like you to proofread my stuff. what’s wrong with that biketown reference? Bad grammar or do u just not like the idea?

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        9watts March 12, 2020 at 10:29 am

        My expectation before we eventually got Bikeshare here was that it would serve tourists, mostly, encourage or reward recreational spontaneity, give NIKE cheap advertising, and change the visual landscape more than actually advance cycling-as-transportation. The built-in obsolescence came along later but in my view added insult to injury.

        I am also well aware that many folks here like it (the idea or even the practical aspects, the convenience), so haven’t offered much of a critique in a while. But I remain curious for data that illustrates who uses this service and for what purposes.

        Calling for it to be free (for taxpayers to subsidize it further?) to me demands that we both understand who uses it and can defend those uses as important enough to justify those funds, that prioritization.

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          middle of the road guy March 12, 2020 at 10:36 am

          If Nike was not involved, would you support it?

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            9watts March 12, 2020 at 10:46 am

            Nike is in my view—-and based on what I think I know about who uses these bikes and for what purposes—-only part of the problem. But if someone could show me that I’m wrong about the above, then my answer to your question would drift over toward ‘yes.’

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          SuWonda March 12, 2020 at 11:02 am

          Non-Tourist BikeTown user chinming in. I’ve had an annual membership since day one and I use it twice a day, 5 miles roundtrip as part of a multimodal MAX commute to Beaverton. I also ride for errands on weekends. $10 a month for that kind of use is practically free on a per trip basis.

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            9watts March 12, 2020 at 11:06 am

            Thank you for weighing in. I am eager to dispel my misconceptions about bikeshare.
            Can you say two words about your preference for the orange bikes over your own in this commute?

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              SuWonda March 12, 2020 at 12:47 pm

              My preference for the Orange bikes has several spokes. Limited bike racks on the MAX, no personal maintenance cost/time, flexibility when out and about. Lock up an Orange and forget about it. No fear of theft, no need to return the next day if I have a few too many bevies. Lastly, fitness. Those suckers are heavy but boy howdy are my legs strong. Broadway Bridge ain’t no thang anymore. When I hop on my personal bike, peddling is like running my fingers though the soft mane of a friendly unicorn. Drawbacks are the service area size especially if electrics come into play allowing more ground to be covered.

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            John Lascurettes March 12, 2020 at 1:12 pm

            Also a resident user here. I don’t use it often (6 times in the last year), but I have access to it from credits given through my PBOT Transportation Wallet. When do I choose to use it? When I know I’m going to a happy hour event after work or some other activity where I know I won’t be riding home; I then might elect to take a BIKETOWN to work rather than the bus (it’s quicker and I still get the joy of riding, even if it’s on a tank of a bike). I’ve also used it to run a quick errand when I’m somewhere without my bike (like going to a dr. appointment).

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            Jason March 13, 2020 at 9:46 am

            Your strategy is the equivalent of leasing a car. Certainly this is a very viable use of the resource. I use it as an “in a pinch” ride, when I drop my bike off a the shop for instance. The Biketown is definitely more that a tourist attraction.

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              9watts March 13, 2020 at 9:56 am

              “The Biketown is definitely more that a tourist attraction”

              That is a feel good thing to say (see number of upvotes comments that suggest this get here), and maybe it is true, but I am still interested in statistics that bear this out. I have looked but not found any that break out the demographics of those who use these bikes,

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                Jason March 13, 2020 at 11:16 am

                Are you criticizing my comment?

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                9watts March 13, 2020 at 12:02 pm

                I’m pointing out that there is a difference between
                – asserting that it is ‘more than a tourist attraction’ (and having individual testimonials to that effect) both of which we have in this discussion, and
                – some attempt to show this using statistics.

                What is the distribution of trips among the various types of uses/purposes/demographics?
                This should not be difficult to ascertain.

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                Jason March 13, 2020 at 12:17 pm

                If my statement is a feel good statement, then yours must be a feel bad statement.

                My observation is that this is true: it is more than a tourist attraction. My testimony, as well as OP’s testimony corroborates that. A coworker of mine does the same as OP.

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                9watts March 13, 2020 at 12:22 pm

                You funny.

                “If my statement is a feel good statement, then yours must be a feel bad statement.”

                Why should there only be those two options?

                “My observation is that this is true”

                You can observe, and I can observe, and so can others. This may (or may not) help us answer my questions. The point of statistics is to take us from anecdote to data.

                “My testimony, as well as OP’s testimony corroborates that. A coworker of mine does the same as OP.“

                I can find three people who feel differently. This doesn’t get us anywhere.

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                Jason March 13, 2020 at 12:25 pm

                Is this an argument you enjoy having? I find it very banal and nit-picky. I don’t understand what you hope to achieve, what point you’re hoping to make. Is it that I am not presenting hard scientific data? So what?

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                Jason March 15, 2020 at 3:39 pm

                https://www.portlandoregon.gov/transportation/article/624028

                26% of 2400 users said they supplanted a car with Biktown.

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                9watts March 15, 2020 at 3:47 pm

                Thanks for that article, Jason. These are data – what I was asking about.

                What is curious, having just read that summary, is that the survey clearly asked respondents whether they were tourists or locals (the statistics are reported separately) but nowhere is the usage share of those two groups identified.
                Suspicious, if you ask me.
                Also the well known problem of respondents to this type of survey question answering strategically is nowhere acknowledged or problematized.

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                9watts March 15, 2020 at 3:53 pm

                You wrote:
                “26% of 2400 users said they supplanted a car with Biktown.”

                If you read carefully, this is not correct. The report tells us:
                “26% of BIKETOWN trips eliminated car trips (among locals)”
                “26 percent of Portlanders using BIKETOWN said they used it instead of driving a car.”

                Since we are not told what percentage of survey respondents were locals (10%? 30%? 60%?) we don’t know what share of Biketown users claimed to have skipped the car.

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                Jason March 15, 2020 at 4:03 pm

                I was going to question your distrust, but then I saw the contract email is on the lyft.com domain. Well, I can’t defend Biketown or the data. Especially since it’s old. But it’s compelling. I’ll agree that it’s vague, but it does substantiate the idea that it replaces personal cars.

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                9watts March 15, 2020 at 4:46 pm

                I wasn’t asking about substituting for cars; I was asking about locals vs tourist use shares.
                But what you are highlighting mostly confirms that people who just rented a bike know how to answer a question about substituting for car trips. They know what the survey administrator wants to hear; they know what they themselves want to believe.
                Asking these kinds of questions in a survey is easy, but more importantly lazy, and the results are fraught. We should be wary of concluding anything important from those answers.

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                Jason March 15, 2020 at 4:51 pm

                Well, you could contact Bike town and offer to conduct a survey. Sounds like you know how they work.

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          Jonathan Maus (Publisher/Editor) March 12, 2020 at 11:32 am

          I think Biketown should be much better, but it’s the only system we have right now and I think PBOT/Biketown are doing what they can with limited resources to provide a relatively cheap and accessible option. We need 1000s of more bikes and much better quality bikes that are electric to really see the potential. And yes, I’m disappointed too in the impact it has (I thought it would be stronger.).

          But I disagree with you that it’s not useful for a lot of people and that we shouldn’t “subsidize” it more.

          And I am not a fan of Nike at all; but I appreciate their deep pockets and willingness to fund this. Happy to use their money for bikes, even if I can’t stand their corporate culture or company vibe in general.

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            9watts March 12, 2020 at 11:41 am

            “We need 1000s of more bikes and much better quality bikes that are electric to really see the potential.”

            That is a bold ask. The ones we have already cost, what, $3,300 each? Why do you feel that a public approach trumps the much better understood private approach? If I am not mistaken, many of the people who are not tourists who use bikeshare already have a bike or multiple bikes of their own.
            Publicly financing still more expensive *additional* soon-to-be-obsolete bikes sounds crazy to me, and I like bikes. How do you propose to persuade others that this makes sense, is wise, urgent, important?

            …And we can take this up somewhere else, a future article so as. It to further hijack this coronavirus topic.

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            Hello, Kitty March 12, 2020 at 11:48 am

            I rarely use the bikes, but when I do, they often displace an auto trip. I have noticed that the system at a whole is gradually degrading (bikes in worse shape, harder to find, grungier, etc.) That’s to be expected to some extent, but it’s still sad to see.

            Any possibility of getting a virus from a tainted bike?

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              Alan 1.0 March 12, 2020 at 1:06 pm

              Any possibility of getting a virus from a tainted bike?

              https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/transmission.html
              “It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.”

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              John Lascurettes March 12, 2020 at 1:16 pm

              Definitely, but probably much lower than in a standing-room-only bus. Plus, if you wear gloves, that helps. If you have disinfectant wipes in your bag, it would help you (and others later) if you wipe down the touchpad and handlebars before and after.

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              John Lascurettes March 12, 2020 at 1:23 pm

              I am privileged to work for a company and industry that allows workers to work from home. In fact, on Tuesday, they mandated a company-wide WFH policy for the next two weeks at minimum. That means I’m not riding into work. I had some doctor appointments this morning, so I rode to those. I noted far fewer cars and conflicts on the road today. I plan on going for lunch rides to keep my activity level up and to get the heck out of the house so I don’t go stir crazy. I worry for all my friends that are gig workers. Things are getting canceled left and right on them.

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                John Lascurettes March 12, 2020 at 1:50 pm

                Whoops. That was supposed to be a standalone comment.

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    chris March 12, 2020 at 10:21 am

    My prediction is that the ebike will emerge as the urban vehicle of choice in the new pandemic age, especially as prices drop. Public transit is a petri dish, but the geometrical problems associated with cars in dense areas will always remain. Electric assist will expand the bicycles potential range, and make bicycling more practical for people with health or disability problems, who aren’t fit, who live further from their destinations, etc. Even just not having to show up sweaty is a game changer.

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      middle of the road guy March 12, 2020 at 10:37 am

      Just like the virus, e-bikes are much more widespread in Europe.

      Having more here would be a great thing for diversifying the transport options.

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        Hello, Kitty March 12, 2020 at 10:45 am

        >>> Just like the virus, e-bikes are much more widespread in Europe. <<<

        Are you suggesting causation, or merely correlation?

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        9watts March 12, 2020 at 10:48 am

        I highly doubt the virus is more widespread in Europe. What is more widespread in Europe is a functioning state supported health care system plus working test capability. Without testing we have no idea what the situation here is. Our mortality here is much higher even before coronavirus, and life expectancy shorter. Inequality, poverty, no health insurance all (already) take their toll.

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          Phil March 12, 2020 at 3:10 pm

          Don’t worry, the CDC tested 77 people this week. We’ve got this under control.

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            9watts March 12, 2020 at 3:16 pm

            Hahahahaha. That was goood!

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        ConcordiaCyclist March 12, 2020 at 11:22 am

        Uh, no. I’ll echo other comments: your statement about the virus is inaccurate because of the federal government’s inability to provide testing or containment strategy until too late. We simply don’t know the infection rates here, but you will once they actually distribute and process large amounts of tests tests. Suggesting it is worse in Europe is a nothing more than a political talking point (speaking of dangerous viruses.)

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          BikeSlobPDX March 12, 2020 at 11:57 am

          The current rate of spreading is tenfold growth every 16 days (source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg), so “infection is more widespread” likely means “they got exposed a few days before us.”

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      Rain Waters March 12, 2020 at 2:06 pm

      “The new pandemic age” ?

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        X March 13, 2020 at 2:17 pm

        We haven’t had that many pandemics but look at some trends: more people, more cities of a million plus people, greater population density, movement of tropical insect species into formerly temperate zones, global travel…

        There’s more hunting pressure on wild animals for bushmeat, distributed through markets like the one in Wuhan. In Portland we have more people living with domestic fowl. I doubt if the concentration has reached the point that diseases are crossing over but who knows?

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        X March 13, 2020 at 2:28 pm

        Transformations? Anyone for a cruise ship vacation? Or a round trip flight to anyplace? I think we’re about to find out which cruise lines and airlines were over-leveraged.

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        X March 13, 2020 at 4:13 pm

        Car traffic: talking to a professional driver, I got a first guess of 25% reduction on freeways, but at least 10% . In other words, no brake lights. I asked a friend who rides a lot about downtown traffic, and they said “over fifty percent reduction” which was also my first estimate.

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      Jason March 13, 2020 at 10:14 am

      The class 3 pedelec is perhaps the best thing that has happened to bike commuting in the last few decades. Being able to ride up Barbur Boulevard at 25mph is a game changer. Not to mention getting from Mt Tabor to downtown in 15 minutes, without breaking a sweat. Or getting to Lake Oswego in 45 minutes (90 minutes on analogue bike). Now, a lot of people ask me, “isn’t that cheating?” Cheating at what, exactly? I’m not winning a prize for commuting, after all. And there’s a growing body of evidence that E-bikes are good for you.
      https://www.outsideonline.com/2404475/riding-e-bike-not-cheating

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    Adam March 12, 2020 at 10:22 am

    One thing I felt SURE I would see a lot more of is articles about people taking up biking to work as an alternative to riding public transport, to reduce the coronavirus infection factory that is a bus.

    I know in Europe, after terrorism hits on the buses and subway systems, cities saw a large increase in people biking to work, because they perceived it yo be safer.

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    Bikeninja March 12, 2020 at 10:55 am

    Modes of transportation will be one of the first things affected by the Outbreak, but there will be many secondary effects to follow. If history is any indication this will come in 3 waves (unless an effective vaccine is developed quickly). We are in the first wave which will peak and decline about June, the second wave will hit next fall, with a third wave the following year. The society and economy that will emerge will be fundamentally different. No one knows exactly what those changes will be, but they will be significant. For sure, the higher education, travel and health care business will be transformed. The reduction in demand may drive oil prices very low for a period. But this will permanently crush the marginal producers such as shale, or tar sands and leave the world that emerges with a much smaller economically feasible oil output. This new energy reality plus upcoming carnage in the auto industry will put happy motoring in the ICU. But many changes will be unexpected, so stay safe, stay flexible and keep riding.

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      Hello, Kitty March 12, 2020 at 12:01 pm

      3 waves sounds plausible, but societal transformation does not. Is there a precedent you’d like to cite? While it feels pretty freaky now, at some point, covid-19 will become part of the background noise of annual disease cycles, which may be a little more vicious than they were in the past, at least for a while, depending on how rapidly the virus mutates and how long immunity lasts.

      As for the price of oil, it fell a little due to reduced demand, and then a lot due to increased production, with the Saudis taking advantage of the situation to crush their higher priced competitors (which is most of them). Ultimately, there may be shifts in who produces our oil (hopefully less tar sands), but if anything, cheaper prices will delay transition to alternatives. What won’t change is that if we burn it all, we’re toast.

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        Bikeninja March 12, 2020 at 1:11 pm

        Many historians believe the plague during the middle ages was the catalyst for great change. It reduced the population enough that it gave the peasants much greater leverage over the landed class, kicking off changes that lead to the renaissance.
        A good example of a big change that could come with Covid-19 is the breakdown and radical change of our healthcare system. Our for-profit healthcare system is the most expensive in the world on a %of GDP basis yet leaves a large part of the population without coverage. Such a system is ill-equipped to deal with a pandemic where everyone must have access to testing and care to limit the destruction. One only has to look at the Lombardy region of Italy to see what is heading here in short order. Their excellent public healthcare system ( one of the best in the World) has been overwhelmed by Covid-19 . The same thing happening to our for-profit system will leave many people untreated to infect others, and will effectively shut down much of regular health care operations that the system has come to rely on for revenue. Will anyone be going in for a knee replacement when the hospitals and clinics are swamped with contagious patients? Though they will try to there will be no way for these HMO’s and provider networks to collect enough in billing to cover the exploding costs they will face. As peoples loved ones are triaged for coverage or capacity reasons, anger will sweep the land and and send our expensive and inefficient health care system to the dustbin of history. Our current system is very brittle and ripe for change, and Covid-19 is just the spark to kick things off.

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          Hello, Kitty March 12, 2020 at 1:31 pm

          >>> Covid-19 is just the spark to kick things off. <<<

          We'll see. Covid-19 is hardly a plague level event, or even a SARS level event. Those most at risk are the over 80 (and even then with a mortality rate no higher than 20%), so while I expect many of us with aging parents (or who are aging parents) will experience a personal tragedy, I think that the idea that Covid-19 will do what Bernie, Hillary, Obama, and Romney couldn't is just wishful thinking.

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            Bikeninja March 12, 2020 at 2:43 pm

            As tragic as it is, the real issue is not the death rate, it is the rate of those requiring serious hospitalization. This is many times the death rate, and by nearly any calculation will overwhelm our healthcare system.

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              mh March 12, 2020 at 3:49 pm

              Sad that I think you’re right. With any luck, there will be an intelligent response to the collapse of the existing health care edifice. A pandemic might be the only thing that pushes us to health care as a human right, but I still fear that when we patch the system back together, the model will be the one we are currently suffering.

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                Hello, Kitty March 12, 2020 at 4:10 pm

                It’s probably worth noting that the healthcare system has not collapsed, and there’s no indication it will. On the other hand, if the Democrats win big in November, perhaps there will be energy for more sweeping reform.

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                David Hampsten March 12, 2020 at 4:14 pm

                Or maybe POTUS will adopt some of Bernieman’s policies and expand medicare for poor people even to the 12 states without such programs?

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                9watts March 12, 2020 at 5:47 pm

                “… healthcare system has not collapsed and there’s no indication it will”

                Really?
                What would have to happen for you to concede that it was coming apart at the seams, collapsing?

                You exhibit a to me astonishing faith in our system, a belief that it can stay afloat, keep on keeping on.

                Have you read this – ?

                https://www.fast.ai/2020/03/09/coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR18T0oyJuS1anS-SK4aLezXBZTAkVBCFH-CG8w_WWZtuqvxm-1o8Y_mrwg#this-is-not-like-the-flu

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                Hello, Kitty March 12, 2020 at 5:53 pm

                >>> What would have to happen for you to concede that it was coming apart at the seams, collapsing? <<<

                Some evidence it was collapsing would be a good first step. If such evidence materializes, I'll review it an reassess my opinion, just as I always do.

                Remember how Y2K destroyed the world? Me neither.

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                Hello, Kitty March 12, 2020 at 6:27 pm

                When I have a decision to make, I’ll look at the situation and make it. Evidence and facts, not speculation, will be my reference.

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                pruss2ny March 13, 2020 at 6:03 am

                Italian (and Chinese) medical systems were capable of testing for the bug but incapable of ICU (partly) due to fact that their medical system was never built to handle critical care. Italy has 12.5 Critical Care beds per 100,000, China only 3.6. The US? 34.7

                For the vast majority it appears this bug will hit like a sore throat, and a cough. Sick? Stay home, treat symptoms, don’t spread. If we can get that initial response right, and not flood the medical system b/c we DEMAND TO KNOW if we have Covid19 or just allergies, then there is a really great chance our system will do fine.

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                Chris I March 13, 2020 at 10:58 am

                With this particular virus, it seems that ventilators are the critical life-saving item. The US has roughly 160,000 which is about 49 per 100,000 residents.

                The biggest concern I have, is that people are not taking it seriously enough here. The American “rugged individualist” ideals will lead people to ignore safety guidelines. Our outbreak will be worse, so we will have a higher percentage getting sick, and it will still overwhelm our large system.

                We’re about to put “the greatest healthcare system in the world” to test here. I’m not optimistic.

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                Hello, Kitty March 13, 2020 at 11:56 am

                >>> The American “rugged individualist” ideals will lead people to ignore safety guidelines. <<<

                I've seen no evidence that this is true in any meaningful way. With the possible exception of very stable geniuses and NBA asshats, most people seem to be taking this seriously, and, at least around here, authorities are making the right but difficult decisions to help slow the spread.

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                9watts March 14, 2020 at 3:12 pm

                Hello Kitty,

                It has only been two days since you reassured us that our system could handle this:

                “There is going to be a fairly tremendous strain on our health system,” warned Dr. William Jaquis, president of the American College of Emergency Physicians

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                Hello, Kitty March 14, 2020 at 3:25 pm

                Is there some new evidence I should consider that the system is on the edge of collapse? That said, it would hardly surprise me if the health care system becomes “strained”, which is a very different thing than collapsing.

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          9watts March 12, 2020 at 2:39 pm

          I agree with bikeninja. The possibilities are vast.

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            pruss2ny March 13, 2020 at 6:26 am

            1) if pandemic concerns are the future, “my” car is almost a perfect protected bubble for me to transport myself from clean environ (home) to clean environ (office)…no concerns over whether my mode share will spread germs, because there is no mode share…cheap oil? awesome.
            2) cities are praised being most efficient/responsible means of living…but there is thot that modern cities dangerously disconnect people from food/energy sources that power them, and are naturally breeding grounds for disease.

            agree that volatility presages change, and not saying my above examples are right, but i don’t think the path forward has been decided yet.

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    D'Andre Muhammed March 12, 2020 at 11:53 am

    I’m biking to and supporting my local Asian stores and restaurants. The virus scare has only amplified Portland’s rampant racism.

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      Hello, Kitty March 12, 2020 at 12:18 pm

      Do you find it ironic to fight racism by making decisions based on race?

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        Aaron March 12, 2020 at 12:29 pm

        Asian American here. Reacting to racism by expressing solidarity to the victims of racism is not racism. Just like saying “black lives matter” is not racist. Acknowledging the reality that one’s race affects their standing in society is not the same as actively engaging in racism.

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    TOM MARTIN March 12, 2020 at 12:12 pm

    While spring has come early, this global pandemic has made the streets quiet and my shop quieter.

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      David Hampsten March 12, 2020 at 4:10 pm

      Lucky you. In my car-centric community, car traffic has actually risen by quite a lot, as we have a lot of out-of-town visitors for a college basketball tournament that just got cancelled. The tourists booked their hotels well in advance and now they have nothing to do. Our local ebike shop is making a killing in renting out bikes.

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    esprirevidelli March 12, 2020 at 1:03 pm

    until they declare martial law, and will not let me leave my house, i am gonna keep riding. that is what i know, for real.

    best of luck to all y’all, and your loved ones!

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      Rain Waters March 12, 2020 at 2:09 pm

      How do you propose “they” keep millions of people in those houses. How many of us are “they” ?

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        David Hampsten March 12, 2020 at 4:11 pm

        Through enforcement of course, like they enforce traffic laws currently.

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    Blaine March 12, 2020 at 4:12 pm

    As a bicycle mechanic I am concerned about my ability to work from home, pay rent if my hours are reduced, and get medical services if I become sick. Let’s wake up and smell the coffee. Local bike shop staff could be at high risk of sliding into homelessness and poor health.

    But I cant take my own worries too seriously when I see people who have so much less than me every single day, dying in the street. How far down is rock bottom in today’s America? How do we pick ourselves up?

    If you have a job that can pay you to work on a computer at home then you may be spared some of the destructive potential of this disease. If you have that ability then please take some time to think about those who do not.

    * Please do not interpret this post as a plea for sympathy or a condemnation of those who made different life decisions and find themselves more economically comfortable. People are going to lose loved ones and I will not compare financial woes to that level of tragedy.

    On a brighter note, Start a conversation about a livable minimum wage. Talk about universal health care, and for gods sake, tell your friends and family to stop shopping on f$%#$ng amazon!!!!!!!!!!

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      9watts March 12, 2020 at 5:24 pm

      “… for gods sake, tell your friends and family to stop shopping on f$%#$ng amazon!!!!!!!!!!”

      I know right? How hard can it be? Jus t say no to AMAZON and NIKE and the rest. Buy local.

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      John Lascurettes March 12, 2020 at 7:32 pm

      Sunday’s debates should be lively, especially around healthcare.

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      FDUP March 12, 2020 at 9:41 pm

      Actually, guaranteed minimum income of ‘living wage’ + health care and some extra to help keep the economy afloat would be really nice for times like these…
      🙂

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      FDUP March 12, 2020 at 9:43 pm

      Not that I disagree with the sentiment, but FWIW, Nike and probably Amazon too are both sort of ‘local’.

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        9watts March 12, 2020 at 9:50 pm

        I know what you are thinking. Forty-five years ago maybe Nike was, and twenty-five years ago maybe Amazon could have been considered that. Precision Castparts is super local (Johnson Creek), but they cause I think some of the worst air air quality in the nation.
        Everything can be taken too far, too literally.

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          David Hampsten March 13, 2020 at 6:30 am

          Precision Castparts isn’t as local as it once was – it’s now owned by Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffet), same as BNSF, Duracell, Geico, Brooks Shoes, Dairy Queen, and dozens of other companies.

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          Hello, Kitty March 13, 2020 at 9:31 am

          PCC’s “worst in the nation” status results not from emissions at Johnson Creek, but from the aggregate of all their facilities nationwide. I’m not at all dismissing their local impact, but it’s also important to understand the situation.

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      Jack March 14, 2020 at 7:36 pm

      “stop shopping on f$%#$ng amazon!!!!!!!!!!”

      Amen.
      Not just “on” amazon but *at* amazon aka Whole Foods.

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    Michael Ruth March 13, 2020 at 7:59 am

    I don’t think it prudent to expand bikeshare services at this time. Sharing handlebars and, at least, sweat with potentially 100’s of other bikeshare users will increase risk of transmission, even if the bikes were cleaned between uses.

    This is, however, an excellent opportunity for folks to appreciate cycling more. Hopefully the increase in ridership will stick around for awhile, much like the reduction in miles driven continued for some time after the Great Recession. It would be great to expand bikeshare services after COVID-19 recedes

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      Jack March 14, 2020 at 7:42 pm

      the number of surfaces and amount of bodily fluids one may come in contact with from a bikeshare bike is minuscule when compared to a crowded bus, train, or even an un-crowded taxi/uber.

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    Jim Lee March 13, 2020 at 2:49 pm

    The best reason NOT TO SHOP @ AMZ is that JB is cross-eyed and drives a Lamborghini.

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      X March 13, 2020 at 4:27 pm

      I love this whether it is true or, you know, alternate.

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    9watts March 26, 2020 at 7:25 am

    Hello, Kitty
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    It has been two weeks since you so glibly dismisses the possibility… still so sanguine?

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      rick March 26, 2020 at 8:40 am

      Is this virus comparable to the 1918 Spanish Flu? Is closing businesses worth it? More poverty brings higher death rates.

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      Hello, Kitty March 26, 2020 at 10:33 am

      I never dismissed the possibility; I said the healthcare system was not collapsing, and I say now it is still not collapsing. It is starting to show strain in some places, which may well get worse, but we are not on the precipice of widespread collapse.

      I made a commitment to reassess the situation based on new evidence/developments, so please check in next week and we can see how things look.

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        9watts March 27, 2020 at 7:15 am

        “we are not on the precipice of widespread collapse”

        M-hm. Right.

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        9watts March 27, 2020 at 8:17 pm

        This is just New York:

        NEW YORK (from New York Governor Cuomo daily briefing):

        Apex of hospital need could be in 21 days from now in New York
        All hospitals need to increase capacity by 50%, some by 100%
        Need a total of 140,000 hospital beds. Currently have 53,000 (an additional 87,000 hospital beds are needed)
        Need a total of 40,000 ICU beds. Currently have 3,000, with 3,000 ventilators. An additional 37,000 ICU beds are needed
        Will use college dormitories, hotels, nursing homes, and all possible space by converting it to hospitals if needed in April
        138,376 people have been tested
        Schools will stay closed for an additional 2 weeks after April 1, to then reassess the situation and extend again if needed. 180 days requirement has been waived
        “This is not going to be a short deployment […] This is going to be weeks, and weeks, and weeks […] This is a rescue mission you are on, to save lives. […] You are living a moment in history that will change and forge character”

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    9watts March 29, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    pruss2ny
    Italian (and Chinese) medical systems were capable of testing for the bug but incapable of ICU (partly) due to fact that their medical system was never built to handle critical care. Italy has 12.5 Critical Care beds per 100,000, China only 3.6. The US? 34.7Recommended 2

    https://mailtribune.com/news/coronavirus/oregon-has-fewest-hospital-beds-per-capita-in-us

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      9watts March 30, 2020 at 8:02 am

      Looks like Oregon has 663 critical care beds.
      Divided by 4.236million residents that = 15.6 beds/100,000 people.
      Less than half of the US average.

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    dwk March 30, 2020 at 9:39 am

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    9watts March 30, 2020 at 10:24 pm

    Very interesting site: https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

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      Alan 1.0 March 31, 2020 at 10:41 am

      UW Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. Looks like Oregon hospital resources are predicted to hold up, peak on May 6; Washington predicted to have ICU bed shortage, peak on April 19. I wonder whether they include humans staffing those beds, as opposed to just the hardware?

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