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Rally tomorrow for “most pro-bike mayor we’ve had in Portland”

Posted by on January 22nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm

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There’s a rally in support of Mayor Adams planned for 5:30 pm tomorrow at City Hall.

Here’s an email I received from a reader about it:

“As you know, Sam has stepped up to the plate for the bikers of Portland many times, and risked his political neck for us just as many. Are we, as a community, then going to leave him to the wolves for a thank you? No, I say we need to take a stand. Now, he is the one that needs our support. Now is not the time for liberal hand wringing. We need to take up the fight to support someone who has supported us, even when it was politically unpopular to do so. This is absolutely relevant to the bike community. His politics are why we elected him, not his private sex life. I hope you will join us in taking a stand for the most pro-bike mayor we’ve had in Portland, and put an announcement on your website about this rally.”

The rally is being planned over on the SamIsStillMyMayor blog.

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Support for Adams is strong with Portlanders who care about biking. I’ve noticed many of the 800 or so members of the Support Sam Adams Facebook group are familiar names from the bike scene.

And here’s another email I received today:

“I urge you in your capacity of editor of BikePortland to call on Sam Adams to get back to business and get us some sidewalks and cycling facilities already. Perhaps even suggest that if he finds himself unable to get his job done in a few months he can think about leaving but right now we want him to move on and get some work done.”

Will you attend the rally? What are your feelings at this point? How does Adams’ support of biking figure into your assessment of this situation?

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126 Comments
  • SJ January 22, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Sorry, his sex life is not the issue. He lied, he tried to cover it up, and his attitude was such at the time that those who did support him when he needed it were later humiliated. That he is pro-bike means very little in the face of his willingness to act inappropriately, again, with respect to his grip on the truth, not his private life.

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  • steve January 22, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    I have been car-free for over 20 years and am probably more liberal than you. I can not wait until he resigns. That said, I could not stand Adams and his faux-progressive politics, before his cronyism and lies became public knowledge.

    Adams is a disgrace to Portland and should resign promptly. I also do not care where the man dips his noodle. But, I certainly would not let him around my 15 year old son.

    If i would not trust him around my children, I hardly think he is fit to be mayor of a large city. Resign now so we can find a more progressive (and honest!) mayor.

    Think if the children.

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  • todd January 22, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    No, his sex life isn’t the issue. And yes, he lied. _About his consensual adult sex life_. If you can’t distinguish between lying in answer to questions that should never be asked in public, and lying in answer to matters of fiduciary public trust, you are being dense.

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  • todd January 22, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    No, his sex life isn’t the issue. And yes, he lied. _About his consensual adult sex life_. If you can’t distinguish between lying in answer to questions that should never be asked in public, and lying in answer to matters of fiduciary public trust, you are being dense. He deserves our support and defense against the opportunistic moral outrage of his political enemies.

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  • Bjorn January 22, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    #3 agreed, and #2 if you think that sam resigning is going to result in someone more progressive becoming mayor I think you are out to lunch.

    Get back to work Sam!

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  • steve January 22, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Great progress he has shown us so far! he will be out in the next few days anyway, so enjoy your little rally. Ya’ll are so precious!

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  • Bill Stites January 22, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    I agree with a separation of public and private issues. Sam should have just taken the 5th, instead of lying. But let the punishment fit the ‘crime’.
    If the young man was under age, then that’s a crime and a much bigger problem, but it’s my understanding that is not the case. Though this is so early in the investigation …

    People make mistakes, and this one doesn’t seem so grave … and it’s private.

    I’ll be there.

    If Sam does decide to resign, and I hope not, who is next in line to take the interim office?

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  • Suzanne January 22, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Sadly, this is not the person I want running my city. I think we should concentrate our efforts on finding an honorable mayor. Good people are out there, I think it’s defeatist to say, let him stay because there’s no one better. Like Obama says, it’s time to raise the bar and expect more from our elected officials.

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  • PdxMark January 22, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Enjoying the nuances of the moralistic gray zone, I’m not so sure anyone’s conclusion about this sad ordeal could possibly make them “dense.” For my part, I come down to:

    consensual adult sex — who cares,

    denying consensual adult sex — who cares,

    publicly savaging one’s accusers as being on an anti-gay crusade as part of a Big Lie Attack — bad and wrong.

    I don’t know that Sam should resign, and I’m not sure how I’d vote in a recall, but I most certainly do NOT think it’s time for cyclists to go to the mat for Sam at this point. I don’t see any benefit in cyclists, as a political group, losing political capital trying to defend Sam at this early stage.

    Sam could have been, and might still be, the best mayor Portland cyclists could have hoped for. That said, his Big Lie Attack in response to being outed on this matter makes it hard for me to defend him.

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  • beelnite January 22, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    I’m really disappointed and discouraged right now. Trust is earned and I was always taught it’s better to be honest up front than to lie for personal gain. Regardless of the subject. Actions speak loud. This blows because all the good things Sam stands for are going to forever have a stigma attached. So even if he’s the best Mayor we ever have…

    Look, I blame Bill Clinton for the last 8 years and I still consider him one of the finest Presidents this nation ever had. But if he had just kept it in his pants and didn’t try to fudge his answers after he got caught I don’t think we would have opened the door for all this silly “liberals have no morals” bashing that goes over really well with ‘normal’ folks. We can thank Bill for the upsurge and wealth of fodder material given to the so called moral majority.

    I know my thought isn’t complete, but hopefully some of you get what I am saying.

    Sam’s actions don’t just hurt Sam. Having his entourage air out their dirty laundry publicly does nothing for the rest of Portland. I feel betrayed because I think he should have been man enough to deal with this before the election.

    But right now it seems he’s the type of person that will do or say anything if he thinks it will get him where he needs to be… where WE want him to be. How is he going to prove otherwise? It’s going to take a lonnnng time and really, folks, we got stuff we need to be doing.

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  • a.O January 22, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Here’s what this has devolved into:

    Those Feeling Betrayed: “I’m angry at Sam for lying to me.”

    Those Supporting Sam: “Who cares who he had sex with?”

    Those Feeling Betrayed: “It’s not about the sex, it’s about being lied to.”

    Those Supporting Sam: “Why do you care who he had sex with?”

    Those Feeling Betrayed: “It wasn’t just a lie, it was a cover-up. And it was so he wouldn’t lose votes. So he could get voters to believe something that wasn’t true.”

    Those Supporting Sam: “You’re such a prude. If this country hadn’t been populated by puritans 400 years ago, this wouldn’t be an issue.”

    Those Feeling Betrayed: “I wonder if he’s telling the truth now? Would we ever have found out the truth if WW hadn’t broken the story? What else might he lie about to get what he wants?”

    Those Supporting Sam: “Consensual sex isn’t relevant. I don’t understand why you keep focusing in on who the guy had sex with. Why can’t you get to the real issue?”

    Will you people please get a effing clue already!? NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE SEX!!

    If you don’t care about being lied to, find. I do.

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  • Paul Tay January 22, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Sam pulled an Elliot Spitzer.

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  • DJ January 22, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    To all of you claiming that he should resign because he lied:

    You seem to think that lying doesn’t happen all the time, in politics and elsewhere. What did President Bush do to divert your accusations when he committed all those lies during his presidency (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20031013/corn)? What did all the rest of the US Presidents do? They sure as hell didn’t apologize for each and every lie. And furthermore, who hasn’t lied about a hook-up?

    Get off the lying bandwagon for a minute and think about who you are feeding to the dogs. Friend or foe? If lying is your problem, you have many more offensive targets to pursue than Sam Adams.

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  • Zaphod January 22, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Interesting caveat where I completely disagree:
    publicly savaging one’s accusers as being on an anti-gay crusade as part of a Big Lie Attack — bad and wrong.

    I think the accuser was using Sam’s private life to gain advantage. So while Sam could and should have opted for a more noble angle like, “I’m not going to comment on my private life.” he didn’t. Probably partly out of anger and again out of fear. The accuser (Ball) started the dirty politics. That is the most important piece of the story.
    I would have wanted to bury him too… I would have been livid.

    Sure I am disappointed but I continue to support Sam and will be at the rally. I just want him to get back to work.

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  • Coyote January 22, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Rallies and protests are all fine and dandy, but they really have little bearing on Admas’ ability to serve. Until a majority of the city counsel members start calling for his resignation Adams should stay in office. This is why we have representative democracy instead of a democracy. Mob rule is too hasty and harsh. His ability to work the city counsel is his real political power.

    I have never been a big Adams fan, but trying to run him out office for this is ridiculous. Unfortunately, a pro-Adams rally will likely inspire a counter rally. The perception of those rallies will largely be controlled by the media. Are you ready for that?

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  • Aaron January 22, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    Would anyone prefer if we had Sho (less than bike-friendly) Dozono??

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  • cyclist January 22, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    a.O: It’s not the lie, it’s the smear tactics afterwards that are my concern. In my book he’s got every right to lie about his private life in public. For example: if Sam was in the closet and a reporter asked him point blank if he were gay and Sam denied it, I wouldn’t care. Yes, it’s a lie, but it’s a lie about something that doesn’t really mean anything in his day-to-day job.

    Does that make sense? To those of you who say it’s the lie that matters, would you feel the same way about a closeted mayor who got outed? Is that different somehow? I’m not looking to prove a point, I’m trying to get some understanding of how the other side feels.

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  • Brad January 22, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    The bumperstickers are already out and spotted on cars in PDX…

    PORTLAND: THE ONLY CITY WHERE AN 18 YEAR OLD CAN HAVE SAM ADAMS

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  • redhippie January 22, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Although I support Sam staying,

    Sam and biking/transportation issues are not mutually exclusive. For example, Randly Leonard is a very big transprotation and biking advocate. The City has also developed the civil service component (Geller, etc.) to develop and support bike infrastructure. Just because one man leaves, does not mean that the whole thing comes crashing down.

    We tend to put too much credit on individual leaders in government. There are legions of civil servents standing behind them and their culture and philosophies do not change over night.

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  • PdxMark January 22, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Part of the Big Lie Attack:

    “I have been the target of a nasty smear by a would-be political opponent,” Adams wrote in a Sept. 18, 2007, letter released to the public. “I didn’t get into public life to allow my instinct to help others to be snuffed out by fear of sleazy misrepresentations or political manipulation.”

    That’s quite different to me than “I didn’t sleep with that (very young) man.”

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  • Paul Tay January 22, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Who wants to be on the business end of a vicious, career-ending attack to cover up a lie?

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  • am January 22, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    I’ll be at the rally.

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  • Dave January 22, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    I wouldn’t say I support him “as a cyclist” per-se – but I do support him keeping his job, and I would be willing to make that view public. I don’t know for sure if I’ll go to the rally, but I definitely support him in staying where he is, regardless of whether I feel what he did in his private life is morally right or wrong – I don’t think it should have ever come into public view, being, as far as we can tell, perfectly legal.

    I don’t see why people who, based on his political service up to this point, felt he was a perfect candidate for mayor, now suddenly feel like he’s a horrible mayor because of a personal matter that clearly up to this point hasn’t made an appreciable difference in his political service.

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  • DT January 22, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    From http://samisstillmymayor.blogspot.com/ :

    “I just heard from Dan Savage, and he’s agreed to say a few words at the rally tomorrow. Awesome.

    Also, who wants to make signs? We’re meeting up tonight at Roots Brewing (1520 SE 7TH in Portland) at 6pm to make signs for tomorrow. All are welcome! We’ll be in the new, big room.”

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  • E January 22, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    If you think it’s about the lying you’re nuts. Maybe it is for YOU. But if the general public cared about the lies, Bush would have been impeached in his first term. It’s not the lies. It’s the sex.

    I also like the line about an “honorable” mayor. Do you think that’s what we’ll get if Sam resigns? No. Sam screwed up but there is still no one around that I’d rather have leading this city.

    I am sorry I cannot be at the rally tomorrow.

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  • dan Kearl January 22, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    The punishment of resignation is too harsh to fit the crime, however Adams has lost so much credibility because of this he won’t be very effective. A big part of the Mayors job is public persuasion. He has lost a lot of that ability. If we really want somebody to get to work and get things accomplished whether its bike related or not we probably need somebody else in the position.

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  • canuck January 22, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    Here’s a hypothetical situation.

    I’m a member of a minority group. I do my best to be a vocal representative of both that group and other citizens of my city. So much so that I gain public office and have a desire to run for higher office.

    At some point I do something that while not illegal may be construed as questionably ethical. This situation could be harmful to me as a politician and to the minority group I openly represent. Rumors start to circulate about this action.

    I decide to run for higher office. A possible opponent brings up the rumors, because he is also a member of the same minority group and feels it would be best if these rumors were substantiated or refuted by myself.

    On being approached with these rumors I panic. I have a reflex action to protect myself and others involved. I lie and deny everything.

    The press will not let it go. I am at a decision point.

    ***** DECISION ONE *****

    I decide to come clean. I apologize to all involved, my constituents, members of my minority group, the city council. I explain myself not as justification but with the hopes that you can understand that I panicked, but will be able to forgive. I promise to be a better representative to you all, and plan to continue on in my campaign for mayor.

    I can go forward knowing that I am not perfect but that I will always work towards doing the right thing for myself, my minority group and my constituents.

    Lets go back to the decision point and take another route.

    ***** DECISION TWO *****

    D@mn, I just stuck my foot in it, and while not illegal there are a lot of bigots out there who are going to paint me and all members of my minority group with a wide brush because of this. Better circle the wagons.

    I go to Joe who was part of the questionably ethical situation and I get him to back up my denials.

    That isn’t really enough. I’ll get my communications people to prep Joe on how to deal with the press if the ask him about the situation.

    That’s not really enough, I better go on the offensive. I’ll write letters to all the media outlets, I’ll be very vocal about my denials at every chance I get.

    That’s not enough. The guy who brought it up has aims at the mayors seat. He might start a smear campaign, I better do it before he does. I’ll announce that as a member of the same minority group as myself, this kind of bigoted and discriminatory witch hunt could only be brought about by a self loathing member of our minority which makes it even worse.

    That should be enough to hang on to enough votes to win the election. That was a tough decision, but politics is a dirty business.

    *************************************

    A totally legal situation, although ethically questionable provides the opportunity to make things right and rise above the fray, but I took the low road and thought only of myself, not caring who got hurt along the way.

    No sex, no teenagers. Just the opportunity to do the right thing.

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  • DT January 22, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Jonathan:

    I wanted to thank you for covering this in the (always) respectful way that you have, and for allowing those of us who have supported Sam Adams for his progressive record to have a place to post our thoughts and opinions and express our disappointment in a forum where people are respectful of each other. You hold your site’s visitors to a high standard, and I think it encourages important dialog, especially during difficult situations. So thanks.

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  • woogie January 22, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Unfortunately Sam does what he does for the most self serving of reasons.

    He covered up his lies with a well planed out attack, to ensure he got elected. Anything to save his political skin.

    He did the same thing when he declared bankruptcy. When he realized it would come back to haunt him he went back and paid his bills. Only because it was politically expedient.

    Strike two in my books. I’m not will to go to strike three.

    I hate to tell you Sam but

    “Do unto others before they can do unto you”

    is not the golden rule.

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  • spencer January 22, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    as far as the sex goes, how many of you pick up high school seniors?

    he lied because it looks way bad. sexual preference has nothing to do with it, its the fact that almost everyone squirms when they think of someone in their 40’s hooking up with school aged people.

    he would have been smeared into the ground had this been public before the election. he had to lie.

    I just dont get why he didnt continue to lie. Thats just political stupidity.

    yay bikes! i rode mine to work today.

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  • Paul Tay January 22, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Who thinks Mr. Ball deserves JUSTICE?

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  • Dan Kaufman January 22, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    I really like Steve Duin’s column (and suggestion) today:
    http://tinyurl.com/dontgiveupsam

    “If Adams is still lying about the timing of his first sexual encounter with Beau Breedlove — turning their age disparity from a deeply troubling issue into a criminal one — we’re in Goldschmidt territory, the land of the lost and forgotten.

    But while the investigations and the disagreements continue, I have a suggestion on how we all might channel our frustration and move this process forward:

    A recall.

    And a recall that Sam Adams openly encourages — and privately supports — because the voters deserve a referendum on whether or not he is still qualified to serve as Portland’s mayor.

    While calls for Adams’ resignation are the crusade du jour, a recall allows both the mayor and the multitude the opportunity to step back from the week’s numbing revelations and assess the damage.”

    Seems like a good plan to me.

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  • Jonathan Maus (Editor) January 22, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    “…I wanted to thank you for covering this in the (always) respectful way that you have,…”

    thanks for saying that DT.

    this has been challenging to cover. i didn’t really get much else done today because I was thinking so much about the whole situation, talking with people about it, etc…

    I should have posted this early this morning…but I had a whole different story about Adams ready, but then decided to not publish it.

    hopefully tomorrow I can focus on some other stories.

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  • DT January 22, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    @ Dan (#32)

    A recall can’t take place for 6 months, and those who smell blood will have a hard time waiting to go through the process.

    @ Paul (#31)

    How about I blame Bob Ball for trying to use someone’s sex life against them? Those who are crying over Bob Ball’s political career need to remember that *he’s* the one who went there. Adams should never have had to answer such a question.

    I’m not saying that the lying is okay, but it is wearing blinders to think that Sam could say “No comment” and it would mean something besides “Yes” in the eyes of the media and the gossip-mongering public. I think he was backed into a corner with no good options. So thanks a lot, Bob.

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  • Oliver January 22, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    I’ll be going.

    I watched, astonished, from across the pond, for several years as this country allowed itself to be pre-occupied with the sexual misadventures of one of it’s elected leaders.

    That fiasco caused as a direct result the takeover of this country for 8 years by the most vile, corrupt, incompetant and destructive force we have ever seen. Something for which the fallout is only beginning to come to light and something for which even the experts still do not know if we shall recover.

    For people to allow their attention to be diverted by the trivialities of what at this stage is still the completely legal private life of one of our public servants is idiocy of a level only shown by the outgoing administration.

    If it’s legal and private, no one, not even the pope is under a moral or civic obligation to divulge.

    People had better wake the hell up, cuz we have far more important things to be worrying about right now.

    I’m with Sam.

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  • CPF January 22, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Larry Craig never quit. Just sayin’.

    We live in a country where “no comment” is assumed to mean guilty. Thanks exploitative media! So his options were admit it and lose votes, not comment and lose not as many votes, or lie and hope nobody finds out. Three bad choices but one lets him keep his career going.

    I’m disappointed that he made a poor decision in sexing up somebody 26 years his junior. But we live in a country where the concept of “barely legal” has its own industry so I’m pretty sure he’s not the only one.

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  • Matthew Denton January 22, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    I will be there. I’ve still got a bunch of “Sam Adams for Mayor” buttons at home, I’ll bring them.

    And if Sam does decide to resign, will he go ahead and pass Safe Sound and Green first? I know the economy is down, but a lot of us can still afford a few bucks a month. They could even wave the fee for anyone that is collecting unemployment, (or better yet, make them pay in labor instead of dollars,) but our streets are in awful shape, and we need someone to fix them.

    And no, it isn’t about the lie, it really is about the sex. I’ve realized that in the last 2 days, as people keep repeating that it is about the lie, that really, THEY are the ones that are lying.

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  • Sick of the same old BS January 22, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Hey #11 – Do you have selective reading ability disorder or something? Numerous people have responded to the “OMG he lied!” issue, usually by pointing out that if it was about lying, where the hell were all of you for the last 8 years. That aside, the argument that “if he lied about this, what else will/has he lied about?” is flawed from many angles. So if I’m on a diet and I eat one donut, I can no longer be trusted not to eat everything insight? How about this, whoever out there has never (and I mean NEVER) lied about anything to anyone ever…YOU can make that argument. The rest of you (those who’ve told at least one lie)? Apparently you are not to be trusted at all, by your own argument.
    Oh, and those that feel “betrayed” – try having a family member or friend killed in a war that our Leader lied about to get us into, lied about what it would take, and to this day still has not apologized for the results. Or if that’s too hard, you could just get off your self-righteous high horse and GET OVER IT.

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  • dobrien January 22, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    I sense a witch hunt. I’d prefer that Adams work toward re-establishing trust and redeeming his character, which of course is possible. While the coverup, deceit and abuse of power were all wrong and diminish his credibility, forcing a resignation is unwarranted and makes a crummy situation far worse.

    Also, for all the keepers of the moral compass, please leave Obama out of the discussion. No one is immune from telling a lie.

    I’m going to try to be there.

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  • Will Radik January 22, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Yes! Glad to see you guys supporting Sam!

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  • Paul Tay January 22, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    DT, #34, what does Mr. Adams’ decision to lie tell you?

    For all his anti-bike attitudes, at least Sho fess’d up and did the right thing. Should we expect any less of Mr. Adams?

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  • Anonymous January 22, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    First of all, can we stick with talking about bicycling? That’s why I’m here. I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m tired of almost everything politicized. Anyone agree here?

    But, Jonathan, if you’re going to announce pro-Adams rallies, which is certainly within your rights, will you also announce rallies that ask for his resignation?

    So what if Adams is pro-bike? Does that trump everything? I love dogs, but I’m not pro-Hitler, who loved his dog as well.

    Please, can we talk about biking, rides, great places to do bike business?

    DR

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  • Lillian Karabaic January 22, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    I will be there.

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  • solid gold January 22, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    NEWSFLASH: POLITICIANS LIE ABOUT THEIR SEX LIVES!!

    NEWSFLASH #2: SANTA CLAUS DOESN’T EXIST!!

    Stop being naive Portland. This whole “scandal” stinks of political maneuvering in exactly the same way the Clinton “scandal” was used to put Republicans in power.

    Potter lied about the changes he promised to make in Portland. No controversy. Bush lied about sending thousands to their death. No controversy. The gay, liberal mayor lies about getting laid, and all of a sudden, the Inquisition is lighting their bonfires.

    I don’t support Sam or any politician because I like them. I support them because they share my vision for the community. Fighting against Sam Adams is de facto fighting FOR Sho Donzono et al.

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  • Carl January 22, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    I just wish that Sam would get back to work and our newspapers would get back to going out of business.

    Paul Tay,
    You DO live in Tulsa, Oklaholma…right?
    Okay.
    Just checking.

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  • Matthew Denton January 22, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    dan Kearl #26
    “The punishment of resignation is too harsh to fit the crime, however Adams has lost so much credibility because of this he won’t be very effective. A big part of the Mayors job is public persuasion. He has lost a lot of that ability. If we really want somebody to get to work and get things accomplished whether its bike related or not we probably need somebody else in the position.”

    I agree with everything you have to say, with one exception. I don’t think he has lost credibility yet. If he has indeed lost it, and he can’t do public persuasion, (much like the last year and a half of Potter’s term after Ceaser Chavez, when he became “irrelevant”,) then yes, Sam should step down, and we should get someone else. But if Sam can pull this one out, (and I think he can,) and keep going, then great. And even if it takes a couple weeks for that to happen, that is far better than waiting several months for a special election.

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  • Paul Tay January 22, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Carl, #41, so what is PDX to me? Tulsa’s crystal ball. Bike issues don’t exist in political vacuum.

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  • Jonathan Maus (Editor) January 22, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    “Jonathan, if you’re going to announce pro-Adams rallies, which is certainly within your rights, will you also announce rallies that ask for his resignation?”

    I posted this because of emails I got about it that mentioned bikes specifically and because many of the rally organizers happen to be people who care about biking.

    If an anti-Sam rally has a bike component to it please let me know about it and I’ll be happy to post something.

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  • Grimm January 22, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Im hoping to make some spoke cards for the event. Hopefully I can find the time.

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  • DT January 22, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    DT, #34, what does Mr. Adams’ decision to lie tell you?

    In all honesty (no pun intended), I think this is the real question.

    To some people, that decision tells them that he can no longer be trusted to make good decisions and show good judgment.

    To some people, that decision tells them that Sam judged that he would be attacked over a relationship that was consensual and legal and no one’s business by people who feel it necessary to disparage homosexuals. (And it has been said many times: how many stereotypes can you validate in a single “scandal”?)

    To some this reflects on Sam’s character. To others, it reflects on our society and how it views sex and what kind of topics are appropriate and relevant for public discourse during a campaign.

    Should we expect Sam to do the right thing? Of course. What *is* the right thing? To resign? To apologize? To buckle down and prove himself to a disappointed public? He has already apologized, but the “right thing” to do depends on what his decision to lie meant to you.

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  • DT January 22, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Oh, and #42 (DR)?

    According to my rss feed, Jonathan has posted 8 articles in the last 2 days, and 6 of them were about something besides Sam Adams. You know you can skip over things you don’t want to read, right?

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  • Krampus January 22, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    His lie was ridiculous. Nobody forced him to lie. He could’ve said “no comment”, instead he defended himself by lying and using his sexual orientation as the reason he was being ‘smeared’ when in fact he wasn’t being smeared at all, just using his orientation to scare people from bringing it up. Horrible. Get this guy out of there, he’s lost all credibility, he’s an instant lame duck.

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  • Hart January 22, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    All you anti-Sam chumps can suck it, because we’ve ALL lied about sex. Go move to Beaverton with that Sarah Palin moral compass that’s gotten you so far in life.

    I’ll be at the rally supporting PORTLAND’S MAYOR.

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  • Hart January 22, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    I’ve realized that in the last 2 days, as people keep repeating that it is about the lie, that really, THEY are the ones that are lying.

    Agreed. They’re projecting their own childhood abuse onto what they perceive as being the same situation. And they are woefully narcissistic for doing so.

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  • matthew January 22, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    If it weren’t for my broken patella I’d be there waving a big sign. It would read “Heave ho, it’s time to go!”. Perhaps I’ll just drive around in my dino juice guzzling Toyota Tercel with the sign taped on the roof. How socialy and environmentaly devastating that would be! He He…..

    Let’s be real for a moment folks. Sam is a public servant and under the microscope of the public eye. He is also held to a higher standard than most of us and this is rightly so. He had the temerity to vehemently deny the accusations then flopped and the truth came to light. There is nothing private for public officials. Only the naive would think otherwise. Through his actions he has demeaned and disrespected his office, the citizenry, the young man involved and himself. He has negated all that is laudable about him with a several irresponisble and compounding lapses in judgement. He should do the respectful thing and step down but as he has shown he has no respect for himself or anyone esle for that matter and will cling to his office like a tick on the dog politic.

    I’m a bleeding heart liberal and donated to his mayoral campaign. I’d like a refund please…..

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  • RJ Fenley January 22, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    I’ve been following the conversations around this issue on Twitter, publications’ sites, blogs in this state and out… BikePortland.org’s thread (so far) contains the most thoughtful, civil contributions I’ve found. Nice work, everyone. Thanks, Jonathan.

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  • vincentpaul January 22, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    As I stated in a post in the forums, lying about sex means nada to me. That’s not the real issue here. We’re quiblling about whether he was merely grooming a staffer for sex at age 17 or actually having sex with him. There’s not gonna be a second chance for Sam in Portland.

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  • Amos January 22, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    I’ll be there.

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  • steve January 22, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    It is foolish to have cycling tied to Adams at this point. Why allow him to drag cycling/transportation issues into the gutter? I can see the headlines already.. Please stop this nonsense, for our own good!

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  • Diogo January 22, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    I find the whole controversy way too ridiculous. And I admire the guy; for his support for bikes and his ability to pick up someone that young at his age (I hope I can do that when I’m 40).

    But no, I will not go to a rally. I don’t know that he is that good to feel that I should go fight for him.

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  • Rixtir January 22, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    #53:

    We’re quiblling about whether he was merely grooming a staffer for sex at age 17 or actually having sex with him.

    If you’re going to discuss the controversy the controversy, you should at least try to be informed. Breedlove was not on Sam’s staff, nor on the staff of any other Portland policitian.

    Furthermore, you’ve conveniently neglected to include the full range of options in the discussion: option: Breedlove was pursuing Sam for a relationship, and Sam exhibited poor judgment in allowing the relationship to happen, post-18th birthday.

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  • dan Kearl January 22, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Matthew #46,
    I think you might be a little too hopeful regarding Adams credibility. Just reading these forums shows how much support Adams has already lost. I think the idea of a recall may be in his best interest. If he could win a recall he would have a chance to put this behind him and might be effective. If he just stays in office he will fight the calls for resignation the rest of his term.

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  • Hart January 22, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    No he won’t. Because the screaming 18% of Portland’s suburbanites are going to realize how absolutely absurd this all is, and then they can apologize to Mr. Adams. I hope he accepts your apology.

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  • red hippie January 22, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    how many of the posters have kids? How many would be ok with any 42 year old dating them?

    Just curious

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  • chris_lite08@yahoo.com January 22, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    The only question I have is: Can Sam still be effective in implementing the plans that he had before all hell broke loose this week? If he stays, I have a feeling that the City Council will dismiss him much like Potter. If he goes, the taxpayers are stuck with floating the bill for a special election that could turn into a circus. Thanks Sam for stuffing us all on this one.

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  • Twixter January 22, 2009 at 7:37 pm
  • Eric Dolan January 22, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Did Sam’s act “really” hurt anyone? Was lying the right thing to do? Was his lying about the incident harmful to anyone? I say “no” to all three questions
    and second the “whoop-dee-freakin-doo” response posted yesterday.

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  • Hart January 22, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    All the Sam haters need to get a life and stop obsessing over what the man does in his own home.

    And to Red Hippie: guess what, when your kid’s eighteen you don’t get to tell them who they get to sleep with, do you?

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  • Andrew January 22, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    will be there.

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  • John Reinhold January 22, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    What happens if he does resign? Is that better or worse for the cycling community?

    ( For the record, I do not want him to resign, and I think it is silly we are wasting time on this when we are shedding jobs by the thousands and our streets are full of potholes and our bike lanes are full of gravel and our schools are struggling to pass muster and our most vulnerable don’t have health care and gangs are taking over outer SE . . . )

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  • Anonymous January 22, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    What if it turns out he tapped Beau before the age of consent and/or hired Ruiz to shut her up?

    The “bike community” ought to be careful about offering its unflagging support.

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  • JR January 22, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    I can’t believe this is still in the press.. Consentual sex between two adults should not be a political issue in my opinion. Sam is our rightful mayor and I’m not going to sit while people with a political axe to grind take it out on someone who hasn’t had a chance to do his job yet.

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  • JR January 22, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    red hippie, i have a dog (which is pretty similar to having a kid in my opinion), and he’s fixed so I don’t have to worry about his sex life. if he was gay, I guess i wouldn’t need to get him fixed in the first place.

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  • Jonathan Maus (Editor) January 22, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    “The “bike community” ought to be careful about offering its unflagging support.”

    Hi anonymous,

    I don’t see anything that would make someone think that the “bike community” is “offering its unflagging support”. can you expand on that?

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  • Anonymous January 22, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    800 member facebook groups filled with all our bikey friends and planned rallies with lots of cyclists.

    It’s a free county, of course. I hope “they’re” right – not later embarrassed and betrayed.

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  • John Lascurettes January 23, 2009 at 12:10 am

    I’m mostly indifferent. So I guess I’m in the minority there.

    Wherever Sam ends up on the other side of this, I’m still biking to work every work day of the year.

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  • Jim January 23, 2009 at 12:17 am

    It would be interesting to see how many brain dead people show up? Sam won’tbe there- he’s still hiding.
    Could you imagine the reaction if city hall were to set up in a school for a week like they did a year ago? Parents would not like having a pediophile trolling the schools looking for fresh meat. He would be better off to quit now. He has lost public trust, the queers hate him now for setting their movement back 100 steps, city council mostly despises him and are not likely to work with him. What good is he? Time to hire a new coach.

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  • rollerderby January 23, 2009 at 12:19 am

    Well, everybody loves a scandal, that much is clear.Sam is human and deserves a second chance,two consenting adults having sex is legal until proven otherwise, and this is where the investigation is headed. Fine with me. Here is to keeping private out of public life. Go Sam!

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  • GlowBoy January 23, 2009 at 12:27 am

    Count me in. I’ll be at the rally.

    I don’t care if he lied, at least if the lie was about his personal sex life. It’s NOUFB, and if anything he should be commended for lying to the media about it.

    Anon (#71), if either of those things turns out to be the case I’ll be the first to demand prosecution and resignation. But at this point we do NOT know either of them to be the case!

    Unless and until that changes I want our hard working mayor back on the job. There’s a lot of work to do, and this is a ridiculous distraction. (Which is exactly what some interests want).

    Red Hippie, I have a child. I don’t see how that’s relevant to this discussion. There are a lot of people I wouldn’t want my child sleeping with at age 18, and Sam Adams is pretty far down the list of potential partners I’d be concerned about.

    And let’s be aware that at 18, Oregon’s age of consent is HIGHER THAN MOST STATES. In most of America no one would even care whether or not Breedlove was 18, because even at 17 he wouldn’t be jailbait: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America

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  • Hart January 23, 2009 at 12:29 am

    Hey Jim, did it tick you off when Sho got beat by a landslide in the election? Does it make you angry that there won’t be a Sellwood Walmart?

    Last time I checked an eighteen year old can vote, serve in the military, and be on a jury. You know what an eighteen year old CANNOT do? Be the victim of a pedophile.

    Maybe the Willamette Weak can hire you to work for them.

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  • Jim January 23, 2009 at 12:32 am

    He’s as good as history. You’r all wasting time going to a pro rally

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  • GlowBoy January 23, 2009 at 12:51 am

    Jim (#78), don’t be too sure. The “public opinion” posted in comments to various websites may be going against Adams, but in my experiences those sites tend not to be representative of actual Portland voters.

    My guess is that once things calm down and we all get over our initial shock, Sam will turn out to have a lot more support than the current state of the comment-o-sphere would suggest.

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  • carless in pdx January 23, 2009 at 2:28 am

    Here comes the homophobisms!

    Thank god for the peanut-gallery cum sexually deprived (depraved?) Protestant peasants!

    America has a 41% infidelity rate. Who have you been fucking?

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  • carless in pdx January 23, 2009 at 3:09 am

    Red Hippie,

    FYI: Breedlove has had 2 subsequent boyfriends in their late 30’s and 40’s. If I was a 40 year old man being chased by hottie barely-legal women, then I too would probably succumb to the pleasures of the flesh.

    I mean, who the hell wouldn’t??? Not even the Republicans can keep it in their pants! Not even the Catholic priests can!

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  • Mike January 23, 2009 at 3:34 am

    This isn’t about bikes. This is about having a liar as mayor. Do you all support W because he likes to ride his mt. bike?

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  • Anonymous January 23, 2009 at 5:52 am

    Sam is the best thing for Portland, he’s going to work for us.

    Really?

    Since this announcement he hasn’t been to council. Two days and waiting. How much is he really working for us?

    Come on Sam, get back to work and make Portland better, stop feeling sorry for yourself. You put yourself in the position.

    GET BACK TO WORK!!!!

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  • […] Interesting comments on Sam “bike man” Adams from all perspectives can be found at Bike Portland. […]

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  • Anonymous January 23, 2009 at 7:30 am

    #67
    “Was his lying about the incident harmful to anyone? I say “no” ”

    Homophobia is a serious issue and Adams used the issue to cover his lies, and to smear a possible political opponent.

    He hurt the gay community by trivializing a real issue.

    He hurt another person with a smear campaign destroying their career.

    He hurt Portland because he has ruined his reputation and has already admitted he cannot effectively represent Portland at a federal level.

    Care to change your answer?

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  • bikingqueer January 23, 2009 at 7:46 am

    I agree with the person that said: “yes he lied about something that he shouldn’t have been asked about in the first place. That is, consensual sex with an adult”

    This will not affect how he does his job.

    I am excited to see a queer, bike friendly mayor in office. I think Sam is a good representation of Portland.

    However Sam, I am, ticked off and disappointed at you Sam for being a dumba**. You know that once your in politics, decisions like this can affect your career. Not that they should, but they do. I am going to be Really ticked at you if this gets you removed from office.

    Go back to work Sam.

    Here is hoping you make it through.

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  • redhippie January 23, 2009 at 8:29 am

    Maybe I am old fashioned, but I would not want my 17 or 18 year old daughter dating a 42 year old. Why, because I don’t want her to grow up with a jaded view of sex and relationships. I don’t want her to learn how to use her sex for profit and security. I want her to date people close to her own age so she can learn and develop from her peers and not someone taking advantage of her youth or naiveté. I can’t really believe that Sam was thinking this was going to be a loving, nurturing, long-term relationship when he was showing up at his birthday party. If he was, he would have been open and prideful about it.

    So when you say that his sex life is none of our business, I retort that his character and how he operates politically is. Ultimately, it is our faith in his character that allows us to entrust the power we grant him. When he hires a reporter who is unqualified over a slew of very qualified candidates, it hurts the people by not hiring the best employees possible to serve. It makes me question, how many other unqualified political appointees are in his office. His act also overtly subverted the newspapers that we look to act as watchdogs against corruption, the same papers that let Goldschmidt slide and ruin a young woman’s life. If we want clean and accountable government it starts here with decisions like this..

    It has taken me a couple of days to come around to this decision. Yeah it sucks that he is going to hurt the cause of bike based transportation, but are we really willing to let go of our morals and ethics because he favors our causes? There are other advocates out there. Sam is not the movement, we are. He only is a conduit of the movement and replaceable.

    Finally, this question is as much a moral question about your-self as about Sam. How you answer and where you put your support shows what you really believe in. Chose wisely.

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  • Steve Brown January 23, 2009 at 8:35 am

    Sam Adams was elected to be mayor. I still think he is the most qualified for the job from the available candidates. I do not think his actions preclude him from developing and executing a vision for a more livable Portland. I may not have much respect for some of his decisions, legality aside, but he may be one of the few people around who just might be able to make our five mayor system work. If and when his personal life prevents him from being mayor, then it is time for him to go. Right now, I think Sam needs to get over it and get back to work. If he cannot rebound from this then he is not the person for the job. Maybe this might be an opportunity for someone better to emerge.

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  • Don January 23, 2009 at 8:53 am

    When a Teacher has sex with an 18 year old student, they get fired. When a Police Chief has sex with an 18 year old cadet, they get fired. Why do the same standards not apply to the Mayor or the former President?

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  • Brad Ross January 23, 2009 at 9:02 am

    During the mayoral election, I caught a lot of grief from the cycling community for publicly endorsing Sho Dozono. My complaint with Sam Adams was always that he was too much of a bulldog and showed a lack of humility.

    That being said, I now favor Sam staying in office, I feel this whole episode will teach him the vital lesson he should have learned a long time ago. He’ll be a better mayor for it.

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  • mike January 23, 2009 at 10:52 am

    I don’t remember this story the first time around. I am only upset that he was asked the question. Can you imagine being at a job interview and being asked about your sex life?

    As far as trust goes, I am a teacher. I am alone with kids all day. No one asked me about my sexual history. Because it is not fair, or relevant.

    In some fields people who messed up are desired. It shows they understand what it is like to make mistakes and recover (not that I am labeling anything Sam did a mistake. I don’t know enough).

    In my opinion, anyone who even read or wrote the articles about Sam’s personal life in the first place owes him an apology.

    If Sam is good for bikes and the rest of Portland he still has my support.

    As far as my kid hanging with Sam. There are a lot of people I don’t want my son hanging with or dating, but at 18 that will be his choice.

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  • Sarah January 23, 2009 at 10:58 am

    I am out of the country and cannot show my support by attending the rallies, but I absolutely support Sam Adams. I voted for him in May and still believe that he can positively impact Portland. Personal life should not influence politics, and the relationship was a consentual one between two adults. He is a capable mayor.

    Why is it that when liberal politicians lie about their sex lives and then apologize, they are removed from office, but when conservatives lie about international relations, finance, or war and show no hint of regret, they go unpunished?

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  • Anonymous January 23, 2009 at 11:11 am

    Mike 94,

    You may not have been asked about your sexual history but you can be sure that a full background check was performed on you before you set foot in a classroom.

    And yes it was a terrible question to ask, but it was asked and Sam answered it with a lie.

    But the article really wasn’t about the lie so much as what he did after the lie with the cover up and getting others to lie, and the political attacks and the continued lying throughout the whole campaign.

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  • Anonymous January 23, 2009 at 11:17 am

    In Sam’s own words, “I lied in an effort to gain office.”

    Can any Adams supporter truly look their child, their neighbor, their friend or their co-worker in the eye and say ‘it is acceptable to lie to the public in order to manipulate the outcome of an election’?

    Sam Adams lied to the people of Portland not AS our mayor, but in order to BECOME our mayor. How can anyone support that action?

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  • Jim January 23, 2009 at 11:22 am

    “Last time I checked an eighteen year old can vote, serve in the military, and be on a jury. You know what an eighteen year old CANNOT do? Be the victim of a pedophile.”

    At 17 it makes Sam a pedophile. Do you really believe he waited for him to turn 18? Do you think this is Sams first boy? or the last? that would be pretty naive to believe from somone who is allready lying.
    There needs to be an awful lot of trust in a mayor that he is an honerable trustworthy person, they have to work back and forth with Homeland security with sensitive information that Sam can’t be trusted with now that we see how he operates. Thank God this all happened at the beginning of his term than later on. Lets just move on with a new person and get rid of this awful mess. Time to hire a new coach, happens all the time, you want the best person in there for the team, not who is best for the coach

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  • caryebye January 23, 2009 at 11:27 am

    We made some rally signs last night. About 20+ people showed up. Take a look:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/redbat/sets/72157612861921043/

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  • Hart January 23, 2009 at 11:33 am

    At 17 it makes Sam a pedophile. Do you really believe he waited for him to turn 18?

    When I was seventeen I was making responsible choices about whom I was sleeping with. Is that really what this is about for you? 18 is fine but 17 is pedophilia? Do you work for the Health Department or something?

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  • todd January 23, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Don (#92), if a teacher gets fired for sleeping with his or her adult student, or even any student at the same school, it’s probably because the school has explicitly made that a firing offense, and understandably. Now, what if it’s a student at a whole different school, in a different city? And if there is no law or institutional rule against it? That’s closer to the situation with Adams/Breedlove. Same deal with police chief/cadet: it matters whether one is in a position of power over the other in the same institution. Adams and Breedlove had no such relationship. Two adults on their own time.

    Redhippie (#90), absolutely I distinguish between character, ethics, and morals in a private, sexual context and in the realm of public policy and political administration. I voted for Sam because he had and still has my nod in the latter category. I’m disappointed with him for shooting himself in the foot politically more than for failing to live up to my expectations of personal moral example. (Hint: don’t look to politicians for inspiration and guidance in personal virtue: you will be disappointed.) In the former category, really it’s none of my business, but if it were, I’d be very careful judging. Completely non-helpful to imagine your daughter in this situation, because you know your daughter, and you don’t know what transpired between Breedlove and Adams. You’re running a made-up movie in your head.

    I am a father. My boy is small. I don’t think he’s gay, but if I’m wrong, I expect I might learn a thing or two from him about how sexual morality can differ when the possibility of bringing children into the world isn’t an issue. Age difference doesn’t matter to me, as long as this was truly consensual, as appears to be the case.

    The Ruiz hiring does have at least the appearance of impropriety, and I want to know more about that. If he is using his office inappropriately to cover his ass, that’s a concern. But from at least a few sources, the Ruiz hiring might have been quite legit. Don’t know enough.

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  • Hart January 23, 2009 at 11:36 am

    We made some rally signs last night.

    Love the signs. Can’t wait to see them in person today.

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  • Dave January 23, 2009 at 11:38 am

    Saw on the news an interview with Ruiz who stated that she is certain he didn’t hire her to keep quiet, as she hadn’t been trying to say anything since she first investigated it – she said she brought it up, he denied it, and she hadn’t thought about it since until this recent hubbub.

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  • Hart January 23, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Honestly, the Willamette Weak spent 16 months on this and the only proof they have against Ruiz is the opinion of the people who weren’t hired that they had a bad interview?

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  • Jim January 23, 2009 at 11:46 am

    Tod
    At age 17 you are not at the age of consent- so that does not apply here, there is no consent. Sam could be in a bigger heap of trouble than we realize.
    Are you going to the rally to help set a new lower standard for public office? What is this world coming to? There used to be a thing called “Tar and Feathers” that worked well for these types of situations

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  • jjgra January 23, 2009 at 11:52 am

    So if all 800 people from the facebook site show up to support Sam that would be about .15% of the population of Portland. Although it may look impressive on a local news channel, it ultimately means nothing. Every poll is showing the majority of Portlanders(65-85% depending on the poll) are calling for his resignation. Why as a group do we (cyclists) want to continue to align ourselves with politicians who the vast majority of our neighbors dislike? Why do we feel we have no hope without this one man? I think the climate nationally has changed in our favor and we are not dependant on Sam Adams to carry on our interests.
    Sho likely wouldn’t get the vote in a special election because of his overall politics, but I have to believe that there are other people in Portland that could do this job.
    Jonathan for Mayor?

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  • David Anderson January 23, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    I would love to go support Sam. He needs support.
    I’m not sure I can make it though because of conflicting schedule. But right now my feeling is he should not resign. We have a lot of more pressing issues to attend to than a sexual fling.

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  • GlowBoy January 23, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    jjgra, could you provide links to some of the polls of which “every” one shows 65-85% want Sam’s resignation?

    The only scientific poll I’ve seen had it at a dead heat. Three days ago. That’s ancient history as far as this scandal is concerned. I know that 3 days ago I myself was pretty pissed off and unsupportive of Adams, but after taking a look at the known facts I’ve come around. Now that the dust is settling I wouldn’t be surprised to find that strong support remains among actual voters within the Portland city limits. Please provide links to something other than web polls if you can.

    Todd (#101) is exactly right in addressing Don’s point: Breedlove was not Adams’ student nor employee. That’s the key difference. Even Bill Clinton gave Monica Lewinsky a job before she gave him one.

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  • Garrett January 23, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    I have sex all the time, lie about it and it never affects my job. I do just as lousy of job ethier way.

    -who cares,nobody died!
    I think most of us would react the same if we were in his shoes.
    Get over it!

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  • garrison scott January 23, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Try Sam Adams for thick, rich, head……
    Ad sighted on a bus in NYC Gus

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  • rosa January 23, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Do all you Portlanders think he waited till he was 18….come on. I saw the comment released by Breedlove it looked
    like it came straight out of Sam Adams lawyers briefcase. I know you love bikes
    but you guys need to grow a pair. Rosa
    the CITY

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  • Daniel January 23, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    I hope this arrogant sob resigns. If they recall him I will be the first to sign the petition. I don’t want a liar running Portland. He did his own gay community a diservice. He embarrassed Portland. And when the investigation by state attorney general is completed we will find the kid was underage too. He has zero creditablity. How anyone can support this piece of dung after seeing his multiple denials is a mystery.

    I am a bike commuter and he won’t and has not made an ounce of difference for the biking community.

    He’s a pathetic man and an even worse Mayor now.

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  • Bill L January 23, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    All of the people sitting here on their moral high ground asking for Sam to resign because he lied should look into their own lives and the choices theyve made for elected office. Every presidential race I have ever seen seems to reward candidates for their ability to stretch the truth, jumble the facts, spin the story (in other words lie). People expect them to do this and get upset when their choice doesnt get into the act. IMO there is not a single person running for any office in the country who is completely 100% honest. I believe one poster on this site summed it up pretty well, “don’t look to politicians for inspiration and guidance in personal virtue: you will be disappointed”. One major difference between Sam’s lie and most other political lies is that it was one regarding his own personal life which shouldve been left alone.
    If youve never lied in your life and have never supported anyone who has lied once regarding even their most intimate details, then you may be the first to cast a stone. You are the only one clean enough to pass judgement in this situation.

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  • Hart January 24, 2009 at 1:53 am

    Sing it with me Portland:


    Sometimes its hard to be a man
    Giving all your love to just one Sam
    You’ll have bad times
    And he’ll have good times
    Doing things that you don’t understand
    But if you love him you’ll forgive him
    Even though he’s hard to understand
    And if you love him
    Oh be proud of him
    ‘Cause after all he’s just Sam
    Stand by your Sam
    Give him two arms to cling to
    And something warm to come to
    When nights are cold and lonely
    Stand by your Sam
    And tell the world you love him
    Keep giving all the love you can
    Stand by your Sam
    Stand by your Sam
    And show the world you love him
    Keep giving all the love you can
    Stand by your Sam!!!

    We support Sam Adams for Mayor of Portland f*ÇK¡ing Oregon!!!

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  • John January 24, 2009 at 10:59 am

    Does anyone believe that the City of Bikes really needs Adams? Did bicycle traffic in Portland increase in 2008 becuase of Adams? Or have peoples attitudes changed?

    The money (for infastructure, for planning) will begin to flow, with or without Adams. 2008 was just the beginning, a small uptick, and businesses are starting to notice. Bike shops, small (bike friendly) businesses, non-profits, framebuilders, USA made manufacturing, urban/regional planners, surveyors, bridge designers, pavers, writers/bloggers–these are the driving forces.

    Adams is not integral by any means. Entrepreneurs are set to invest in Portland, and politics is merely the face of it. Portland (the Willamette river and its bridges) was tailor made for cycling long before Adams showed up.

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  • Hart January 24, 2009 at 11:24 am

    Does anyone believe that Adams’ only contributions have been to Portland’s cycling infastructure?

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  • steve January 24, 2009 at 11:57 am

    I believe his only contributions have been to himself.

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  • Hart January 24, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    Then you’re a fool, Steve.

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  • steve January 24, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    I have read your posts Harty, and can confidently say that no one gives a crap what you think!

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  • Hart January 24, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Yeah, there’s the level of discourse we strive for here at bikeportland.org.

    Shouldn’t you be throwing little tantrums somewhere else?

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  • steve January 24, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    I was here long before you trollboy.

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  • Hart January 24, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    That’s what a five year would say. C’mon, man. We can keep it a bit more sophisticated than that, can’t we?

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  • steve January 24, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    No Hart, apparently WE can’t.

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  • Daniel January 24, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Buh Bye Sammy boy!

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  • jjgra January 24, 2009 at 11:43 pm
  • Hart January 25, 2009 at 2:31 am

    Staaaaaand by you Saaaaaam!!!!!!!!!!!!

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