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Going St neighborhood greenway set for fog seal makeover

Posted by on September 4th, 2014 at 9:13 am

Going detour updated

PBOT detour map of upcoming project that will close sections of Going.

Portland’s premier neighborhood greenway is about to get a makeover.

Next week, the Portland Bureau of Transportation will implement a “fog seal” treatment on N Going Street from Vancouver to Cesar Chavez Blvd. The work will begin on September 8th and will last for five days. In order to minimize disruptions to what PBOT refers to as “one of the most popular bike routes in the city,” city maintenance crews will work on three to four block sections at a time.

During the project, the section being worked on will be closed to all uses for the entire day in order to give the sealant material time to dry. It’s also extremely important that you don’t walk or ride on the sealant while it’s wet. You will muck up your bike and shoes and you will damage the sealing process.

Some people might choose to ride up on the sidewalk; but if you’d rather not mix among walkers, joggers, and residential driveways, PBOT will have a signed detour in place (see map above).

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Riding on Going.
(Photo by J. Maus/BikePortland)

As for what exactly PBOT is doing to the street, it’s not exactly a repaving project. Unlike a full “grind and pave” where the existing surface is taken up and a layer of brand new pavement is put down in its place, a fog seal is a coating that’s applied to the existing pavement similar to sealing a wooden deck. The sealant is a mix of asphalt, recycled tire rubber and grit. It doesn’t last as long as a full repave, but it’s much cheaper.

According to the city’s own estimates, one lane mile of fog seal costs $8,500 versus $150-200,000 per lane mile for a grind and pave (full reconstruction can cost over $1 million per lane mile).

Since Mayor Hales made it his campaign promise to “get back to basics” and speed up road maintenance, PBOT has been fog sealing roads at a much higher rate than ever before. In a statement about the project on Going, PBOT said this “Back to Basics” initiative prioritizes maintenance on neighborhood greenways.

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fredlf
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Oh man, if this is the same stuff they recently put down on Skidmore in the same general area, it is deadly when it’s icy out. Last winter I came very, very close to biffing it when I turned from my street (Grand) onto the newly treated Skidmore. It was like the street just turned to oiled glass. I saw 2-3 other cyclists who were not so lucky and just went sprawling across the street.

To be clear, this was not an ice-storm day, just one of those frigid days when there are spots of black ice and frost on the street.

Josh G
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Josh G

Does fogsealing Going St count as repaving, according the 4 part prioritization below? The flasher sign that has been up for a while says the project encompasses 39th to Vancouver. Some of the worst potholes are between 40th and 42nd.
http://bikeportland.org/2013/05/28/help-is-on-the-way-maintenance-and-paving-coming-to-neighborhood-greenways-87372
Priority 1: Local Street on a Neighborhood Greenway* and within 1/4 Mile of a Public School
Priority 2: Local Street on a Neighborhood Greenway, more than 1/4 Mile from a Public School
Priority 3: Local Street Not on a Neighborhood Greenway, within 1/4 Mile of a Public School
Priority 4: Local street Not on a Neighborhood Greenway and more than 1/4 mile from a public school

MaxD
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MaxD

I hope PBOT will take this opportunity to fix the convoluted west end of this popular greenway! At 6th, the greenway should jog south to Skidmore, and continue on Skidmore to Concord. This is MUCH more straightforward and easy to follow, and all of the crossing infrastructure is in place. This just needs a tiny bit of traffic control, maybe lose a couple of parking spaces…

Seriously, this route will eventually connect to the NP Greeenway at the bottom of Going Street, this west end is important to create a practical, easy to use piece of the transportation system.

Steve Hoyt-McBeth-PBOT
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We had a great time talking with biking and walking on Going yesterday talking about the project.

A big favor: PLEASE DON’T BIKE THROUGH A CONED OFF AREA. It’s really bad for your bike and for the street. Thanks.

Chris Anderson
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I wonder how this will effect auto volumes. I think a big reason cars stay away is the surface quality. Also, I second the blocks from 40-42nd as being the worst (aside from maybe 16-17th). I wonder how the fog seal will do on that old concrete.

Lisa Marie
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This is better than nothing, and if we can get more car traffic off the street, it will last even longer.

This is also an opportunity to discuss the design and use of Neighborhood Greenways – making them safer and making our investment go further. I believe these bikeways are the perfect place to advocate for CAR FREE active transpo thoroughfares (local access only at major crossings, like 15th and 33rd, or bus routes like 30th). They’re already traffic calmed, they’re already highly utilized… what if we eliminated the deadly cross traffic and established parking permits (grandfathered in) for residents on the street?

A separated network that actually makes our city accessible for 8-80, reduces collisions and injury for all road users, requires minimal cost for conversion, and saves money on maintenance by reducing surface damage (oh, and increased property value for people along the street – an added bonus for residents).

Sunday Parkways everyday via Neighborhood & Commercial Parkways – it could completely change biking in our city…

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Chris Anderson
I wonder how this will effect auto volumes. I think a big reason cars stay away is the surface quality. Also, I second the blocks from 40-42nd as being the worst (aside from maybe 16-17th). I wonder how the fog seal will do on that old concrete.
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It will look nice, but I think it will not really do much to improve the surface quality for people in autos and will likely only be a marginal improvement for people on bikes. It is basically a thin veneer and will probably only mask some of the harsher transition points created by the difference surfaces on that street.

John Liu
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John Liu

Does anyone know where the first fog seal projects were done last year? How do they look today, which would be about 1 year later?

Erinne
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Erinne

Has anyone commented about how ridiculous their Wygant detour is? That is the silliest thing I’ve seen all day.

Aaron
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Aaron

I don’t care for the fog seal at all. It seems to hide the bumps and dips in the road surface more so than just bare pavement. The city coated my route to work last year and into this year. I’d prefer that they didn’t put this stuff down on the bike routes.

9watts
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9watts

Hey PBOT, can you please, please, please this time around make a sharrow-shaped mask to put down before you do your thing? Last time around, on Taylor (and probably a bunch of other streets) this handy little trick was omitted. Talk about a waste of resources.

http://bikeportland.org/2013/09/06/fog-seal-treatment-has-covered-up-about-100-sharrows-but-theyll-return-93544

John Liu
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John Liu

No mask, please. I’d rather have the whole roadway freshly fog sealed with new sharrows painted on, than a patchwork of fresh fog seal and faded old sharrows on old pavement.

John Lascurettes
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What’s up with the crazy zig-zaggy “recommended” detour along Wygant between 26th and 33rd? It literally adds 5 1/2 blocks distance and 12 turns to one’s route. Crazy.

It would be better to just go two blocks to the south and use Skidmore instead for that stretch. Or the more brave can just take the lane on Prescott only one block to the south.

Skidmore used to be my “bike boulevard” in that hood when I lived there before there was a bike boulevard on Going. But after a while, the stop signs every other block got to me and I started taking the lane on Prescott (it’s pretty narrow eastbound in that stretch). Prescott was an awesome thoroughfare with only traffic control at 7th and 15th for the whole distance between MLK and 33rd – and it’s not rough, broken concrete like Going.

Alan 1.0
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Alan 1.0

Vancouver re-paved several streets around my neighborhood this summer. The main drag was ground and paved with hot, rolled asphalt. The side streets had badly alligatored and pot-holed sections removed and hot patched, then the whole roadway was chip-sealed, and finally fog-seal emulsion was sprayed over the chip-seal. The fresh asphalt gives the smoothest ride, obviously, but the sealed side-streets are *way* better than plain chip-seal and also much better than where the old surface was breaking up or previously patched, which was more or less everywhere. This winter I’ll see how it does on sub-zero-C mornings, as fredlf mentioned, and time will tell how it holds up, but for now I’ll give the city the benefit of the doubt as far as cost/benefit goes and just be happy to have local streets in good repair.

One effect I’ve noticed is that cars are quieter on the new surface so they get closer before I know they’re there.

Ted Buehler
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PBOT’s _Bicycle Plan for 2030_ states:
“When construction activities in the roadway affect bikeways, safe and convenient detour routes through or around the construction zone should be established.”
p. 87 http://www.portlandoregon.gov/transportation/44597?a=379134

Looking at the NE Bike/Walk map, it appears that NE Skidmore is an optimal detour route for the Going St. reconstruction. It’s a designated bikeway from Garfield (NE 3rd) all the way to 42nd, with a well-signed jog at 29th down to Mason to cross 33rd. & it’s a fine bike route, if unmarked, from Garfield over to Vancouver.
http://www.portlandoregon.gov/transportation/article/322254

While I understand that Wygant offers access to Going and Alberta destinations without needing to cross Prescott, I think many bicyclists would prefer a simple, well marked detour on Skidmore all the way from Vancouver to Cesar Chavez.

I biked the Skidmore corridor last night, I’d forgotten how nice of a route it was. I used to take it before Going was improved. Skidmore has a nice feel — better views, more variable grades, a narrower street, slightly fancier houses. And it crosses MLK and 33rd at traffic signals.

I recommend it.

Ted Buehler