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Program manager responds, wants to make amends

Posted by on July 19th, 2006 at 4:04 pm

I just got off the phone with Tim McNamara. Tim is the program manager for The Playhouse radio show and a partial owner of Rose City Radio, which owns KXL-AM and KXJM 95.5.

I assumed Tim had written me off as a rogue, backstabbing blogger (this is what I had heard from other journalists that had spoken with him), but I decided to send him and P.K. one last email to see if we could work things out. I got a call-back within minutes.

Tim admitted that when he heard the comments on Thursday’s broadcast he called the station right away. Tim was absolutely appalled that the show hosts clapped at the story of a cyclist being hit.

Tim apologized profusely for what was said on the show. He said, “We all make mistakes, it’s how you deal with them and grow that matters.”

To make amends, he told me that he made P.K. apologize on-air during Monday’s “pro-bike” show and that he put P.K. on a bike with a reporter from the Willamette Week today.

I can confirm the Willy Week claim because I met with the reporter who rode with P.K. right after the ride. They did a 2-hour jaunt through downtown and it was very interesting (that’s all I can say). You can catch the story in next week’s issue.

Back to Tim.

He claims to have personally replied to 711 emails so far, fielded calls from several lawyers and from people as far away as Australia.

He repeatedly said, “What can I do to make this stop?! I will do anything you ask.” He said he would be happy to run public service announcements, give away free bikes, donate to the BTA, and so on.

Unfortunately, according to Tim, the vast majority of the emails have been “out for blood.” He read me one that said something to the effect that he should “perform euthanasia” on himself. Geez. If that’s true, please mellow out folks. Your feedback to the station has much more impact if you are sensible and level-headed.

Tim claims that he has received death threats and that a few cyclists greeted him with threatening comments outside his home early in the morning on Tuesday. Tim says he chased them down and they pushed him off, kicking and screaming as they rode away.

As for the missing recording of the broadcast: It now seems to me that if it ever does surface, the station will have to release it against their will. Tim certainly made no offer to release it himself.

Tim continues to maintain that he does not have a copy of the recording and that he pulled the podcast from the web because a bottle of Rockstar energy drink (who they have $100K in ads with) was crushed on-air and he was afraid they would get upset (the show is also viewable on TV).

I think it’s quite clear that the reason the recording has not surfaced is because they cannot handle any more heat (read the last paragraph of this new story in the Mercury).

So now what? It’s clear to me that both P.K. and Tim are very sorry and realize they have made a big mistake and I have a hunch that P.K. is starting to see cyclists in a different, more positive light. Tim, while repulsed by what he calls the “militant, violent, and threatening” bike community, seems willing to work with us to turn things around.

I also have a hunch that the word bicycle will never be said on that show again.

Now the question for the community is, do we continue to demand an official vetting of the original broadcast and keep applying pressure until the show receives a more serious, official sanction (which might be regulatory, legal, etc…)? Or do we try and cut a deal with Tim, forgive and forget, and just move on?

If we do make a deal with Tim, what should we ask for?

I’m still not sure. It’s been another long day. I think I’ll sleep on it.

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  • Evan Manvel, BTA July 19, 2006 at 4:16 pm

    On behalf of the BTA, I mentioned PSAs when talking with Tim earlier this week. We talked about it more this morning in our staff meeting. A Share the Road PSA, perhaps directing people to the J. Maus-created, PDOT-funded IShareTheRoad.Com website might be most appropriate.

    Anyone want to work on the script? Describe what the PSA should focus on?

    Here’s a three-minute scribble (heck, help me out):
    “>honk, honkring, ringgarbled yelling

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  • Paul July 19, 2006 at 4:18 pm

    Seems to be good progress. If its true that there were bikers at his front-door in the morning – shame shame shame.

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  • Michael July 19, 2006 at 4:21 pm

    Wow! It is hard to ask for more than this.

    I just posted the following comment on the previous thread. It is more appropriate here as it looks like he read my mind as I typed:

    The problem here is there are already too many issues that make using the streets dangerous for all users. A public figure (DJ on KXJM) has no business deliberately trying to escalate the danger level. He has no more right to do so than he does to make on the air “jokes” about bombs on aircraft. Why? Because someone may take him seriously. If he made similar jokes about air transport that he made about bike transport, he would be in a federal lockup by now, maybe on his way to Gitmo. What we need to do is our best to help him see the dangerous situation he has created and to stop doing it in the future. And a public apology.

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  • Michael July 19, 2006 at 4:25 pm

    It is interesting that crushing a bottle of soda was more imperative than crushing a human being…

    There definitely is some kind of restitution in order. Ideas? A huge contribution to the bike lighting guy, a free safety helmets for kids campaign… Hell, I don’t even care if he puts Jammin stickers on them.

    We are moving forward in a positive way.

    Thank you Jonathan, and everyone here who has given this effort their best this week!

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  • Brett July 19, 2006 at 4:26 pm


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  • gabrielamadeus July 19, 2006 at 4:27 pm



    And also NAY to all you biker jerks who still follow the mantra of an eye for an eye. Its like, the 21st century folks, catch up with the times.

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  • Concerned_usa_cyclist July 19, 2006 at 4:29 pm

    All i can say is wow. Id ask for public service anuncments donations to various charities and advocacy groups relating to cycling. Offical on papper and on air appology. I would also ask for the free bikes say 10 mid range bikes motobecanes or something similar to them to be donated to a charity that then gives these bikes to those who need a bike but can not afford them.

    What you all have done is quite amazing I tip my hat errr helmet to you and all those who helped to bring this about. In these few days you have done more for cycling advocacy than most have done in a years of worth cycling advocacy.

    Again congrats all

    from Jerome of norton ohio

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  • Concerned_usa_cyclist July 19, 2006 at 4:30 pm

    Oh hey better idea than bike donations to charities. Make that lights and helmets for the donation. Say to the tune of $4500 in helmets/lights

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  • Wyatt July 19, 2006 at 4:33 pm

    I think that this is a fantastic development! I cannot wait to read the Willy Week article and P.K.’s bike ride.

    I am also shocked that someone threatened to kill him and his family. Wow.

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  • Wyatt July 19, 2006 at 4:36 pm

    As for restitution: I’m all for educating and properly equipping kids with proper bike gear.

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  • TRAPPEDINSUBURBS July 19, 2006 at 4:37 pm

    This is truely BikePortland’s finest hour.

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  • Jonathan Maus July 19, 2006 at 4:37 pm

    It’s worth noting that we have no way of verifying the veracity of Tim’s claims about getting death threats and so on.

    Given how some people act I don’t neccessarily doubt him, but he has a lot to gain by painting cyclists as violent, crazed, irrational people.

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  • Randy July 19, 2006 at 4:39 pm

    The soda can vs. bike controversy thing strikes me as dubious, as well.

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  • Elly July 19, 2006 at 4:40 pm

    Bravo, Jonathan! It would be great if the station could reach out to their own listeners as well as “the bike community” (whatever that is). How about lots of free bike giveaways on the show and at station events (like the on this weekend); get Transportation Options to table their events (is it too late for the 22nd?)?

    What if the station were to sponsor (financially or organizationally) cyclist education programs like Effective Cycling classes?

    PSAs ought to include good solid advice for drivers (and cyclists too?) beyond just share-the-road sentiments: Look before opening your door, Look before turning, Leave four feet when passing, Focus on driving (hang up that cell phone), and something in the vein of Be polite, take deep breaths, imagine that’s your own kin on the bike and act accordingly.

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  • Garrett July 19, 2006 at 4:43 pm

    I still wonder how sorry PK is. He carried it on for days afterwards. The damage he did has kind of been done. I think him issuing a genuine apology for his comments might be helpful and perhaps a few days suspension. Just a thought.

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  • Puck July 19, 2006 at 4:44 pm

    Personally, I feel that a negative action deserves a postive one.

    Is there not a breakfast on the bridge coming up in the next weeks?? I may be calling it be the wrong name, but either way, ask Tim to make arrangments the Station to host one, and PK and his morning buddies act as the servers for it. They can broadcast the morning show from the location on the Hawthorne Bridge, make appologies directly to those their comments affected and get a little personal with th people who ride the bikes. It might just take away that “I don’t care about you” attitude that PK has.

    It seems to benefit everyone to me..

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  • Concerned_usa_cyclist July 19, 2006 at 4:49 pm

    Thats why i say a onair and writen appology signed by him and the on air one must match the on paper one exactly.

    Such a typed signed appology letter is infact a legal document in most states. In a real legal sense its a legal conffesion and at the same time its you signing off on restitution.

    garrett wrote
    July 19th, 2006 16:43

    I still wonder how sorry PK is. He carried it on for days afterwards. The damage he did has kind of been done. I think him issuing a genuine apology for his comments might be helpful and perhaps a few days suspension. Just a thought

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  • vrc July 19, 2006 at 4:54 pm

    nice work jonathan.

    amends…i think PK should apologize on-air for the remarks and then commute by bike for a two weeks. perhaps even hire a messenger or two to go with him for verification/ride partner. no significant monetary penalties; just the experiences which regular bike commuters go through daily. 10 days in “their” shoes.

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  • Sara July 19, 2006 at 4:58 pm

    I worry that the people involved are sorry that they got caught, rather than understanding why what they said and did was a problem.

    I both drive and bike, and I get frustrated about cyclists running stop signs and especially stop lights, riding the wrong way, and riding without lights (mostly because it’s dangerous for cyclists to do so). So I can understand that people can get frustrated with cyclists not following the rules of the road. And I can understand wanting to vent some of that frustration. But it is not, in any way, funny to me when someone gets heckled, injured, or killed.

    I wish that drivers would understand how dangerous it is on the road– not because of some inherent danger to biking, but because of people’s attitudes. The solution is not to stop biking. That would be akin to refraining from driving because people die from car accidents every year. The solution is to educate cyclists and drivers on the laws of the road, change the laws that we deem less safe, and enforce the laws that are in place.

    I am saddened that the original show likely encouraged drivers to take their frustrations out on cyclists, I am saddened that a subsection of the cycling community thought they should counter that with threats rather than real action, and I am sad that the hosts of the show still don’t seem to realize why encouraging anger towards cyclists is harmful.

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  • Mick July 19, 2006 at 4:59 pm

    1) There needs to be a geniune, on-air apology. None of this “what I meant was…”

    2) The PSA idea is a great one. What a better way to make amends than to advocate for bikes on the road round-the-clock on the air?

    I think the charity donations are a fine idea, but I think the above are the most important.

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  • Kirsty July 19, 2006 at 5:05 pm

    I’m very happy at long last to see this very constructive progress.

    And i concur heartily with Sara’s sentiments in the posting above.

    Kirsty x

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  • Concerned_usa_cyclist July 19, 2006 at 5:06 pm

    Now that would be a good idea. Heck maybe they could make a anual event out of it?
    Id say things like a live broadcast from a location like that could not only be a good way to make ammends but also be a good way to have a heck of alot of fun for all later down the road.

    Once every couple years they have a morning news program broadcast from the various parks in the area in my neck of the woods and its always a heck of alot of fun. Even if you cant stand the show in question.

    Author : Puck
    Personally, I feel that a negative action deserves a postive one.

    Is there not a breakfast on the bridge coming up in the next weeks?? I may be calling it be the wrong name, but either way, ask Tim to make arrangments the Station to host one, and PK and his morning buddies act as the servers for it. They can broadcast the morning show from the location on the Hawthorne Bridge, make appologies directly to those their comments affected and get a little personal with th people who ride the bikes. It might just take away that “I don’t care about you” attitude that PK has.

    It seems to benefit everyone to me..

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  • Aaron July 19, 2006 at 5:06 pm

    I think that more important than donating to the BTA would be financial encouragement of bicycle commuting among the stations employees. If employees are given sheltered parking and vacation time/bonus/trimet pass in exchange for cycling to work, than this would help create more bike commuters and give them a fresh perspective.

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  • Brett July 19, 2006 at 5:09 pm

    The broadcast from breakfast on the bridges equals restorative justice and promotes a sense of mutual respect and community for the future. It is better to have the show as a friend in the future. Come on folks, show some grace. It’s a big W!

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  • Sasha July 19, 2006 at 5:09 pm


    I am a biker. I ride to work all the time and I ride for fun. I ride downtown in traffic constantly, and also all around this city. I don’t own a car.

    This whole situation has been blown out of proportion in my view. While I have seen many comments that this website has been even-handed in its postings, I disagree completely.

    I think needs to take a serious look at its role in this process. As distasteful as the radio show’s comments may have been, this site has been equally distasteful.

    There’s no doubt that the issues raised and discussed here have all been valid, and that the discussion has been worth having. What I am questioning is the way BikePortland handled this. The sense of urgency and daily updates that constantly pushed for some sort of action contributed greatly to the overall perceived problems.

    If BikePortland had spent more time talking to the parties involved, or indeed was simply more patient with them, I think everyone would be better for it. While I am glad that the radio show and BikePortland finally were able to talk rationally, I hope that BikePortland takes this chance to recognize its part in contributing to this furor. Where P.K. speaks to their core audience, BikePortland speaks to theirs as well. As is obvious by the comments on this site, just as many unsavory and unfortunate comments (and threats) were made by BikePortland’s audience as any other.

    Keep that in mind when faced with a similar situation in the future. You are not really any different than P.K. (as an entity) and you made some of the same exact mistakes that they did last week.

    I lost respect for this site over the ast few days, not gained.


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  • encephalopath July 19, 2006 at 5:11 pm

    What to ask for…

    A 5 to10 minute spot on the Playhouse show where the rules are responsibilities of motorists and cyclists are spelled out by a cycling advocate and the shows hosts. Maybe we could get Ray Thomas to do it. This will be done with visuals for the television audience.

    Don’t cover all rules of the road, but specifically mention the right of way of cyclists in bike lanes: cars can’t block bike lanes at any point including at the intersection. They must wait for bicycles before they either turn or park. Drivers must learn to look over their right shoulders and check their mirrors before making right turns across the bike lane.

    Also cover the right for bicycles to occupy the main lanes of traffic: when traveling the speed of cars, when passing other bicycles or avoiding obstacles, or preparing to make turns. The new law allowing bicycles to pass on the right when safe even without a bike lane is another possibility.

    The bicycling advocate must then express the need for cyclists to obey the traffic laws: no running stoplights or stop signs and stay off the sidewalk downtown. Stress that disobeying the traffic laws fuels motorist animosity toward all cyclists, and we really don’t like that.

    Since this is comedy show the material has to be worked up before hand. It has to be entertaining. The cycling advocate should work out the shtick with the radio people before hand.

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  • Jeff Bernards July 19, 2006 at 5:19 pm

    Forgive, Forget, and donate to “Get Lit”, who has already given out 1300 lights. We could use a boost of cash to buy more lights (for fall) or moneies for a helmet giveaway at CARFREE DAY. It cost about $2000 for 275 helmets. They were a great success at Earth Day & MCBF, total helmets given out? 500!
    Dealt a Lemon Make Lemoade or Make bikers safer in Portland.

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  • encephalopath July 19, 2006 at 5:19 pm

    As for Tim’s befuddlement over the animosity directed toward him and his station’s show…

    The show pretty much called for indiscriminate violence directed at cyclists. The show’s host has tried to make a disclaimer about his remarks saying that they are only directed toward cyclists who disobey the law. But since most drivers (and I would suspect the Playhouse hosts) don’t seem to understand the law regarding bicycles, all of us cyclists end up being the target of those remarks. I would rather not have the humor of a cyclists injury or death be determined by an individual driver’s knoweldge of the law regarding bycycles.

    The idea of being hurt by motorists who fail to yield the right of way isn’t an abstraction for most of us. It’s a daily reality. Every day, usually several times each day on my commute, I must take evasive action to avoid injury because a motorist doesn’t obey the law and threatens to hit me.

    When the radio show says it’s funny when cyclists are injured or killed, some people are going to view that as a threat respond in kind. That’s what Tim found himself the object of. Ugly though it is, it’s a reflection of how serious some people found the comments on the radio show.

    Demonizing cyclists as a group of people it’s OK to hate and injure is completely unacceptable. Those opinions, while probably perfectly legal to express, are still morally reprehensible. That kind of eliminationist rhetoric cannot be allowed to stand. We can’t just be quiet and hope this goes away. People internalize those ideas when they go unchallenged whether they actively think about them or not. We must push back and instill in people’s minds that any intentional violence toward cyclists is not acceptable.

    I was hit by a car about a month ago on SW Broadway. While I was in the bike lane, a car that was driving next to me decided it was going to park, drove through the bike lane, and pushed me to the curb. I went over the front end and ended up with road rash on my face, a fractured scaphoid, and a shoulder injury. Fortunately the police cited the driver, making things easier for me.

    Monday I was almost hit on 1st street when an SUV going the opposite direction made a left turn into my path. If I hadn’t jumped on the brakes really hard he would have run me down at 20 mph full on with the bumper, not just a t-bone. When I yelled at him all I got was the “who me?” look from him.

    This stuff happens all the time. That’s why cyclists are up in arms over any action that intentionally makes things worse.

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  • ben July 19, 2006 at 5:21 pm

    i agree with with puck’s idea (breakfast on the bridge)….though my morning commute doesn’t take me over any bridges, i’d be sure to get up early and make a detour. I bet a lot of other people would as well.

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  • SKiDmark July 19, 2006 at 5:51 pm

    Well at least now everyone knows that Portland Cyclists will not back down.

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  • jami July 19, 2006 at 6:04 pm

    puck, that’s genius. i vote for a 95.5 breakfast on the bridges. “why thank you p.k., i do take sugar in my coffee…”

    good job jonathan, and everyone who put in a (non-threatening!) phone call or email.

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  • zach July 19, 2006 at 6:05 pm

    I say we keep the pressure up (but maybe turn down the dial a little bit) until a satisfactory resolution is actually in hand.

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  • Rob July 19, 2006 at 6:18 pm

    Well, I live in Los Angeles. I know nothing of what was said in this incident. I was forwarded this page because I was recently hit while riding my bicycle. I have a broken leg and numerous cuts and bruises. After reading this article I am irritated to say the least.

    I want to get this straight, someone wishes ill upon cyclists (applauding when one was hit by a car) but is surprised he has recieved threats?! Let me tell you first hand that my life has been flipped upside down due to no fault of mine, simply because some 20 year old was too engrossed in a cellular phone conversation to notice me as he pulled out of a parking lot without looking. To make matters worse, this kid gave me a bunch of false information and his license plate was also stolen/falsified. You quoted Tim in regards to the cycling communities response, “militant, violent, and threatening”. And to that I say, “YOU”RE GODDAM RIGHT”.

    I’ve had it with people who think because they are in a car that no other vehicles should be on the road (bicycles, motorcycles etc.) I do not wish ill upon you, Tim, I wouldn’t wish this pain on even my worst enemy. But part of me would like to come see you in an ER after being hit by a car and see what your attitude is like then. No amount of apologies or community service will erase your IGNORANT disregard for other human beings and OUR right to pursue life as we see fit.

    Think a little bit before you speak, especially if you are in a publicly broadcast forum such as radio. Above all, show respect for your fellow human beings by understanding we all have the right to live. Because by applauding something like a cyclist being struck by a car is admitting that you don’t care if they are killed or maimed (which is a very likely outcome when you put flesh and bone against steel at 30 MPH). We, as cyclists, run that risk every day doing what we love to do because of fools like you, Tim.

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  • PAgent July 19, 2006 at 6:21 pm

    Perhaps I am too much of a curmudgeon, but remember that programs like this flourish when they get publicity– good publicity, bad publicity, doesn’t really matter.

    If they have a big apology, shake hands, do PSAs, whatever, they will still have generated a tremendous amount of word of mouth. They will still, in the long run, profit from their behavior.

    I say, keep up the pressure for FCC sanctions, fines, and other substantial penalties. Apologies are wonderful, particularly if they actually appear sincere, but I would also like a meaningful consequence applied that may keep them from doing something similar in the future.

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  • patrick July 19, 2006 at 6:23 pm

    First of all good work Jonathan. I like the idea of a PSA, definately some links on their website to agencies in Portland.

    I also think it would be a good idea to target cyclist education. I mean this was PK’s point right? Perhaps he could lead an appropriate cyclist education seminar, teaching cyclists, not drivers how to appropriately share the road.

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  • Greg July 19, 2006 at 6:25 pm

    Jonathan, thank you for rallying the bike community to bring some resolution to this issue. Many thanks to all those who wrote in and made calls! Great job!


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  • encephalopath July 19, 2006 at 6:34 pm

    “I mean this was PK’s point right? Perhaps he could lead an appropriate cyclist education seminar, teaching cyclists, not drivers how to appropriately share the road.”

    PK needs to do the education bit on-air to his listeners, not in an elementary school auditorium to a few dozen soccer moms.

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  • emerson July 19, 2006 at 6:35 pm

    My vote is also for a broadcast from the bridge. In terms of value per dollar, the Playhouse can donate the most on the airwaves.

    I don’t think an apology from PK is helpful here. An on air apology would only seem forced and wouldn’t further the goal here (making urban bike riding safer).

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  • tonyt July 19, 2006 at 7:34 pm

    I want PK to ride his bike to work everyday for a year. Day in, day out. Rain shine. Live in the shoes, on the wheels. That would be an eye-opening experience for him. As a bonus, it would have the added effect of confusing his listeners. “Is that PK? Maybe it is. Gee I guess I can’t run him off the road.”

    I think he might learn really fast how vulnerable we can feel and why some of us reacted so quickly and perhaps a bit over-the-top. I do not agree with the threats etc. but having been assaulted by drivers, I can easily understand how someone could have been pushed over the edge, wanting them to feel how being threatened feels.

    Let’s all take a step back, take a deep breath and think about the city we want.

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  • Tree July 19, 2006 at 8:43 pm

    I’m not jumping for joy over the latest development. Though I am proud of the biking community for not giving up, it is too early to say this is over. I am still disappointed in our civic leaders and suspect of Tim’s sincerity.
    Here it is 6 days later and we are finally getting an apology.
    The reason Tim gave for the missing podcast is pathetic and obviously a lie – he still needs to provide the podcast for the record.
    To think Tim apologized because he knows he and PK were in the wrong is naiive. I was probably one of the first to email him. My email was not in any way threatening and I have yet to hear a peep out of him.
    Neither Tim nor PK have shown themselves to be of good character and I doubt they have changed overnight.
    I agree that PK should bike commute every day for at least a month. No doubt he still feels the same about bicyclists. He probably learned a valuable lesson, but there should be consequences for his actions – if not termination or suspension, then a bike commuting commitment.

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  • Jasun Wurster July 19, 2006 at 8:54 pm

    This is all and good for Portland … but this is a Nationally Syndicated show.

    How does all of the NPO’s like the BTA, Get Lit and whoever want to help Tim “just make this go away” help the other communities that are affected?

    There are 13 other markets that were affected much worse than Portland, Oregon … where we have a strong community to stand up for us. If the BTA wants to REALLY do something, how about they use their lawyer resources to find a legal reason to get a copy of the tape.

    I am truly saddened by the thought that the station is trying to buy their way out of this. This was NOT their tone just 2 days ago. They are scared because they feel threatened and have something of value to loose. Very much like I do when I think all my friends riding their bicycles … and just not in Portland, Oregon.

    Let us hear the tape and decide. Right now they are offering to sell us their Air Time which is very cheap. especially since BY LAW all radio stations have to run PSA’s. They are also trying to spend much less money than what bringing the tape to the light of day will cost them.

    For PK it should cost him his his show. For Tim it should cost his FM license. Which I feel is fitting for both have proved that they are unfit to be custodians of our public airwaves.

    That cost is nothing to me, compared to the terror cyclist have ensued and will have to ensue long after this business try to sell us out caused by their gross negligence and destructive arrogances.

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  • Anonymous July 19, 2006 at 9:01 pm

    I thought I heard a comment about how some cyclists are rude on the road, running through stoplights, hogging the lane, etc. I believe money would be best spent (to help solve the problem, and would benefit both sides) to educate cyclists on how to share the road with motorists. I think that sounds like a fair solution… Have 95.5 fund a cycling program.

    It doesn’t seem like giving away free bikes or lights would really help solve this problem. I think that both sides can say that they wouldn’t want this to occur again.

    And for you people who did harass Tim, realize that this is worse than just mentioning it on the radio. Be nicer.

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  • Tree July 19, 2006 at 9:03 pm

    Right on, Jason. I totally agree with you. Every point you made is right on.

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  • doug July 19, 2006 at 9:06 pm

    I’d tell Tim that we will decide on the course of action once we hear the full broadcast. It has been said repeatedly that the bike communtiy is reacting to something out of context, so how can we give a proper response without hearing the whole thing firsthand? To address the concern about other material in the broadcast, he could have a private review of the show with Jonathon.

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  • tonyt July 19, 2006 at 9:48 pm

    Let’s be honest here. PK is sorry because he is busted. The station manager is contrite because . . . well, because he really doesn’t have a choice.

    PK? He is probably fairly well off, being the host of a program heard in 12 markets. Him buying anything means nothing to me. It’s numbers in his checking account. The radio station is also probably easily able to afford PSAs, helmets, bikes etc. These things may make us feel richer and satisfied, and they may indeed help in a small way, but in the end, they are merely material gain. As amends, they lack the true self-sacrifice that expresses true remorse, the sacrifice that transforms character.

    PK, ride your bike. Do it for a year solid. I dare you. Ride rain or shine. Learn the ropes, the hard lessons, put yourself out there. Do you fancy yourself hard? Are you tough? Are you afraid your friends would make fun of you?

    I don’t want trinkets. I’m not a child who wants candy. I want another biker on the road, and the transformation of a thoughtless person into someone who understands.

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  • Michael J. B. July 19, 2006 at 9:57 pm

    They should be fired. If they were talking about a specific religion or race, laughing at the deaths of said group, they would be canned instantly and the station would be fined.

    The minimum amends should be that the radio personalities who made the comments be made to commute on a bicycle for six months. They should ride at least five miles each day on busy streets. They should take a rider safety course too.

    They might get in better shape, and they would definately develop some understanding about bicycling. They could use recumbents to remain comfortable.

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  • WOBG July 19, 2006 at 10:11 pm


    Regardless of what amends are made and what forgiveness is extended, FCC action is still needed–and lobbying the FCC (and securing release of the recorded broadcast) should not be negotiable. Why? Because federal investigation and any penalties that follow could set a precedent. The outcome could help curtail shock-jock bullying of not only cyclists but other potentially vulnerable groups–not only here and now, but years in the future and across the country. Why not help make things more civil not only for us, but for your Eleni and my Matt and the kids they may have, wherever they choose to live?

    That said, you deserve major congrats just for your efforts so far. Name the place and time, and I’ll buy the beer.

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  • ScruffySpokes July 19, 2006 at 10:22 pm

    If Howard Stern can’t say dirty words on the radio without facing enough FCC fines to feed Cambodia, then PK and his co-hosts should certainly be fined. Applauding someone’s serious bodily injury, or even death is far more offensive and vulgar and appauling than the “smut” or “poop” talk that gets so many radio hosts fined and fired.
    The most satisfying things outside of an “oops I said a bad thing, I’m sorry”, would be FCC action as well as retribution to the biking community as a whole, as in donations to organizations like GetLit etc. I want to see PK seriously reprimanded/fined/taken off the air for a duration, as well as some retribution to those they impacted.

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  • Jeremy July 19, 2006 at 10:25 pm

    I very much don’t doubt Tim received some pretty heinous emails, just going to show that irrational, violent behavior is not limited to any particular demographic. I know I have had episodes of my own. I hope Tim can show his comments made on Monday (yes, I heard them myself) are not really indicative of his true feelings on the situation and only were said to placate his personalities who popped him on the air without much warning.

    I would hope, the station would consider running some PSA’s like the ones Clear Channel had to do. ( Found at ) Informing, cyclists and drivers alike of the law can only help both side. I would further hope that my students, the target demographic for the radio station with content for mature adults only, can understand the antics for what they were, antics that could get people hurt if they fell into ignorant brains.

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  • Ken (Crow) July 19, 2006 at 11:30 pm

    Twice in the last 24 hours I have had very agressive male drivers honking at me and yelling at me that I am not a car, that I do not belong in the street. One, after nearly killing me trying to pass while a car was traveling in the on-coming lane, flipped me off and then sped off, cutting through neighborhoods, when I tried to catch up to him asking him to stop so we could talk and I could explain the law to him. He ran away, like a scared puppy.

    I’ld like to think it is pure ignorance of the law that accompanies this agressive, violent behaviour, but I think that’s naive. People simply need to hate others when they are behind the wheel of a car. These are people that would be friendly to you in a bar or restaurant, that would hold the door for you when entering a store. But hate you when you ride a bike, legally and safely, in the street.

    I would add that I am a perfectly law-abiding cyclist. I never run stop signs or lights (when cars are present) simply because I never want them using that as fodder against me. I, however, do take the lane as the law allows. So all this talk of them hating only the scoff-law cyclists is complete bullshit. They hate cyclists plain and simple.

    This needs to change.

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  • Ethan July 19, 2006 at 11:46 pm

    Stations get fined by the FCC for all kinds of on-air violations, I would bet that they are required to keep recordings of their broadcasts. In the end, I would bet that anything they put on the public airwaves must ultimately be accessible. They should not be allowed to hide what they have done.

    I think their offer of the olive branch is a good sign . . . reconciliation if you will . . . but the truth must come first. Truth & then Reconciliation. Worked for South Africa, it can work for Tim and PK.

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  • pdxcommuter July 20, 2006 at 12:30 am

    I also posted this at the BTA’s blog:

    I agree with Jason. Get Ray Thomas, or some other lawyer, to get the station to release the tape TO THE PUBLIC.

    I’m a bit concerned that 95.5 will try to avoid additional bad publicity by releasing the tape to the BTA only. 95.5 will use their advertiser issue as an excuse. Then, the BTA board will hold a meeting about the tape. The public will not be invited to that meeting. At that meeting, the BTA board will decide what 95.5’s penalty should be.

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  • John Q Public July 20, 2006 at 1:01 am

    In answer to Johnathan’s question, I am of the opinion that the original broadcast needs to be heard by at least the regulatory and legal agencies that should be involved in this. And yes, I do feel that pressure ought to be put on the radio station at least via the FCC.

    Might some good come of Tim McNamara (or the other owner/owners of 95.5FM) donating money to a just case? Absolutely. However, it doesn’t seem right to simply capitulate and cut a deal.

    I’m all for being nice and kind when warranted, but this is not the situation for it. Serious legal action against the radio station will make it clear in this and in future situations, that intentionally threatening to injure us, or intentionally injuring (possibly killing) us is absolutely unacceptable. Tim McNamara buying us lights and helmets is nice, but does not help keep those nutters who were ‘inspired’ by the radio show, from trying to hospitalize us.

    Free speech is a great thing in this country. Freely advocating and encouraging people (especially in a large public forum) to harm and kill others is not.

    We need to do what is right to help stop the violence against cyclists.

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  • Jennifer July 20, 2006 at 2:56 am

    breakfast on the bridge and donating to charities that do give out helmets and lights is a good idea.

    Like others have said I also don’t think having him apologize is a good idea because anyone can force an unmeaningful apology about anything just to stop a situation they’re in. I know almost everyone has done it. But to get an honest apology I think making him bike to work once a week for six months would get one out of him. and yah having the station hire a bike messenger to accompany him. you have to remember he wasn’t the only one inciting violence on the show. but also the lady who purposely cut off a biker and stashes extra water bottles in her car is at fualt also. and she should also take the same punishment also.

    When I was at the station on monday and two of his co-hosts came out to talk they even had told me that they didn’t know what PK was up to and they were sorry for all this. and told us to have a good day and what not.

    but I think as PK says he has nothing to hide and that what he said was taken out of context then if it was they would post the show, cause wouldn’t that clear everything up then. I think pressure needs to be kept on that the most. cause once that’s exposed that’s when the truth of this whole ordeal comes out.

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  • wheels_boy July 20, 2006 at 5:26 am

    Make no mistake, the station is just in ‘CYOA’ mode, and pointing the finger back at cyclists because they’re liable for that particular broadcast. Otherwise it would be available for the public.

    Quite a scummy way to make money.

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  • Cate July 20, 2006 at 6:56 am

    “Tim continues to maintain that he does not have a copy of the recording and that he pulled the podcast from the web because a bottle of Rockstar energy drink (who they have $100K in ads with) was crushed on-air and he was afraid they would get upset (the show is also viewable on TV).”

    Okay, then edit out the Rockstar minutes and provide the rest of the tape. Or get a tape of the TV version and do the same thing.

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  • Jonathan Maus July 20, 2006 at 7:01 am

    I agree Cate. I don’t quite understand the logic.

    Tim said to me, “If I had the tape I would give it to you.” But he also said he pulled it from iTunes because of the Rockstar thing…which means he must have it. Right?

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  • Kelly July 20, 2006 at 7:01 am

    I think that a PSA and on air apology are the most important. Donations to bicycle safety would be nice, but educating drivers about sharing the road seems to be a more appropriate reaction to the particular comments that were made.

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  • Neil July 20, 2006 at 7:16 am

    It doesn’t matter if the tape appears or not; the manager has acknowledged that the comments were inappropriate. In fact, in order for this to blow over, it’s probably best that the tape doesn’t become public.

    Airing PSAs is a suitable punishment for the station.

    Bicyclists, too, need to rethink their riding behavior. Part of the lesson here is that erratic cycling is irritating many people. There is no reason for cyclists not to follow the rules of the road.

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  • zach July 20, 2006 at 7:19 am

    i just thought of something else – we need to try to find out what insurance company the station uses. if a cyclist were injured or killed by a 95.5 listener at this point, a lawsuit would almost certainly result in a substantial loss to the insurance company. i think they would want to take this kind of behavior into consideration when determining their rates next time around.

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  • Jasun Wurster July 20, 2006 at 7:40 am

    I say … call or email Rockstar and see what they think. They may be able to get cheaper rates … elsewhere 😉


    Oh-Yea … I have a sponsor page now up at:

    Can you please email me any sponsor info you have so I can put it in an easier place for people to find?

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  • Jasun Wurster July 20, 2006 at 7:42 am


    That is an idea I would have never thought of! Genius!

    If you do the leg work please let us know how you got that info so that people can look up the other stations that broadcast the show.

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  • Jeff July 20, 2006 at 7:55 am

    “It’s clear to me that both P.K. and Tim are very sorry and realize they have made a big mistake…”

    Wow. The only thing that’s clear to me is that they are tired of getting emails and phone calls. PK cotinues to say in interviews that he thinks the reactions to his comments are ridiculous.

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  • Garrett July 20, 2006 at 8:08 am

    I tend to agree. I thought I was in a forgive and forget phase but that’s over because the fact is the damage is done and an apology isn’t going to take back what was done. A concerted effort to make them pay for this should be followed through on. The only reason I think there is any sort of apology at the moment is because they are sick of the influx of e-mails clogging their mailboxes and the fact that their sponsors were putting pressure on them. Sam’s letter probably didn’t help. I think one of the requirements should definitely be releasing that tape and yeah they have a copy of it. Every station has a copy of their broadcasts. I do want to thank Tim for telling us Rockstar is one of their sponsors too. I am going to contact them right now and tell them they crushed a can of their drink on air and then laughed about killing people.

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  • Michael July 20, 2006 at 8:33 am

    What I am getting is that the act of contrition is a sham. A false apology is almost worse than none at all.

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  • Lynne July 20, 2006 at 8:59 am

    As this was an on-air statement, the amends should also be on-air. The earlier comment about broadcasting what bicyclists rights are (specifically about bike lanes, right to use a lane, right to pass another bicycle, the right to expect an overtaking vehicle to pass SAFELY, etc…) should be on-air, to reach those who should hear it.

    Breakfast on the Bridges is nice, but it doesn’t educate those that might need educating.

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  • SKiDmark July 20, 2006 at 9:21 am

    Maybe some signage :”Share The Road. It’s The Law” with a picture of a bike and a car would get the point across.

    And for the ignorant cyclists (yes, they do exist) “Ride on the RIGHT side of the street”

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  • Brad July 20, 2006 at 9:25 am

    I’ll pick up on Lynne’s remarks.

    I’d demand that “The Playhouse” must stage and broadcast from a “Bikes Belong” event that they sponsor in all 13 markets that show is heard in. They partner with a local bike advocacy group in each market and hold a bike fest that promotes commuting, bike safety for kids, advocacy for better bike facilities, and fun groups like the Zoobombers.

    This becomes a defacto “PK Loves Bike Culture” statement and, because of his “endorsement” of said events, insures he can never rip cyclists in public again without the fear of being labeled a hypocrite. I also think the upside is that the hip-hop generation gains an appreciation or at least an understanding of bikes.

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  • Donna July 20, 2006 at 9:32 am

    I’m not going to speculate about the sincerity of their apologies and I don’t really care whether or not the radio station donates money for helmets and lights or gives money to the BTA. What’s important to me is to get the violence and harassment stopped and discourage others from the kind of public broadcasts that incite this kind of violence and harassment.

    What could help stop the violence:
    * PSAs on major media outlets to educate the public on traffic laws as they pertain to cyclists.
    * Statements from the mayor & police chief reminding the public about what criminal behavior is. This would be beneficial to all potential victims of road rage – not just us.
    * A committment from the police to have a zero tolerance policy towards violence and harassment directed at cyclists. (At least for a few months – I know how overburdened they are.)
    * We people on bicycles need to be obeying traffic laws, especially in the presence of cars. (Not that I think vigalante violence against people who violate traffic laws is ok in any way.)

    I think the only thing that would prevent future violence-inciting broadcasts is to not give up on obtaining a recording of the broadcast, keep putting pressure on the FCC to investigate, and continue to contact sponsors of the program. There is no need to be rude or threatening to anyone, these are not illegal actions. Obviously, many broadcasters don’t have the ethical standards to think about what they say out of a desire to do what’s right and avoid harming others, so we have to make it worth their monetary while to consider the consequences to what they say on air before it comes out of their mouths.

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  • Jim July 20, 2006 at 9:39 am

    Why not have a huge ride, driven by the local bike community, but ad-sponsored by the radio station?
    If only one “character” from the Playhouse show (PK would be most welcome) participated, then it would solidify the statement that this is over and done.
    Also, by having a ride, everyone is practicing what is preached: Integrating Cycles on the road. Folks may even learn what hazards are out there – why this flare up happened.
    I’d be willing to help make this happen. If the ride wound around some light streets on the weekend, ending in a park with (of course) some music and food, it would be an easy win.


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  • John July 20, 2006 at 9:42 am

    It’s offical.

    You are all insane.

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  • Dr. Mark Ross July 20, 2006 at 9:46 am

    make them repain the 95.5 hummer with “Jammin loves bikes” slogans!

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  • benschon July 20, 2006 at 10:02 am

    I call B.S. on this “client issue” Rockstar drink smokescreen. Someone should call the company and find out if they actually asked 95.5 to withhold the tape, or if they would have any objection to releasing the broadcast. I really doubt it. Edit the stupid Rockstar thing out and then release it, if that’s really a genuine concern.

    The cover-up is always 100 times worse than the actual infraction. The truth will out. Always.

    Tim, here’s what you need to do: release the broadcast, apologize on the air, reprimand P.K. and suspend the guy for a few weeks, run some pro-bike PSAs, and in short order, everyone will have forgotten about it. Jeez.

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  • jami July 20, 2006 at 10:03 am

    in addition to breakfast on the bridges, a jammin’-promoted ride would also be good.

    the best possible result of p.k.’s harsh comments is that we actually get more people out enjoying their bikes and getting fit. if we have 95.5 promote something fun like BoB or a ride, i bet that would happen.

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  • frank kron July 20, 2006 at 10:15 am

    Jon from les scwab just called me tolet me know they are pulling there ads from the morning show. starting immediately!!!

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  • Concerned_usa_cyclist July 20, 2006 at 10:28 am

    First would like to make a small off topic comment bout the hip hop generation and cyling. Here in norton i was riding up to the local car and had a very patiant driver pass me with plenty of room to spare. Some teen agers with their rap music playing fairly loudly. Well they were only goign a little faster than i was so i sped up (i then noticed they had a bike rack on the back) Turns out they were going to the same park for a hike. Well they turn in to the first parking lot to hit that trail and i use the lots as part of my ride route. So i go right behind them. While their busy unpackign some hiking boots from the back just for fun i say “hey awesome wheely bars but shouldnt they be closer to the ground” The other kid turned and seen me on a bike and smiled i just did the good old shhhfinger to him. is smile got bigger and about this time his budy goes “hey a…. Oh hey” Turns out they had just done a century ride 3 days prior and a 50 mile with a few “buds” They were in to hiking and biking as well as cross country and down hill sking.

    Now to the topic at hand.

    I love the idea of the play house sponsering in some fasion bike safty and advocacy programs. Not just because they would be made in to total fools should they ever pull another stunt like this. But also because they are in 13+ markets aroudn the country and im sure that many of those areas are far less cyclist friendly than portland already seems to be (for the most part).

    This could turn around and be very good for the playhouse and the the stations who broad cast the playhouse. It could get them known by a entirly new aduiance.

    In the end i see this as a win for all involved.

    As for my little off topic story previously in this post i todld it as a way to demonstrate that what you see is not always what you get. In general most dont think of teens playing hip hop at full blast as potential cyclists or taking part in other sports/hobbies. I didnt imidiatly see their bike rack and at first just sumed as most do that they are just punk kids blaring their stereo. It just so happened that unlike most they were very paitiant with the cyclist they passed. My original intention was to simply catch up to them and say thanks for giving me the space i deserve on passing me. I tend to do this when any driver passes me with room to spare esp if they were stuck behind me for some distance as these 2 were.

    Again im seeing lots og realy good ideas in this blog and i have a feeling that its goign to hae some minor effects here in good old norton ohio.

    Some say that what jonathan did was a mistake and will make things worse or that he should drop it and move on. I happen to feel that he has done alot of great work and should continue with his tremdous effort in this matter. In the end im sure there will be some side effects on a small scale that we dont want but in the bigger picture in the end it will do more good than harm.

    And who knows when alls said and done maybe the host him self will take up more serious cycling it could happen you know……..

    Author : Brad
    I’ll pick up on Lynne’s remarks.

    I’d demand that “The Playhouse” must stage and broadcast from a “Bikes Belong” event that they sponsor in all 13 markets that show is heard in. They partner with a local bike advocacy group in each market and hold a bike fest that promotes commuting, bike safety for kids, advocacy for better bike facilities, and fun groups like the Zoobombers.

    This becomes a defacto “PK Loves Bike Culture” statement and, because of his “endorsement” of said events, insures he can never rip cyclists in public again without the fear of being labeled a hypocrite. I also think the upside is that the hip-hop generation gains an appreciation or at least an understanding of bikes.

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  • Garrett July 20, 2006 at 10:28 am

    Awesome…we should keep the pressure on companies to pull their ads from that particular show! I just listened to the tape of the Monday show and Tim is not sorry. In fact his direct words were…”I heard what you said, I listened to the tape but we deal with this all the time, he said she said, I heard you did. You know that’s the way it works man, I don’t care.” So tell me how him saying he wants to end this is a sorry. It’s a I want to stop bleeding money and sponsorships plea.

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  • Ronald July 20, 2006 at 10:32 am

    He isn’t sorry at all. Did anyone read his comments to the Mercury ( )?

    “Was I being harsh? Absolutely. Was I threatening? No. Do we do a comedy-based radio show? Yes. It is a five-hour standup routine and every once in a while it touches on subjects like this,” PK says. He acknowledges that listeners called in with their own tales of nearly running over bikers. “They did, absolutely. Now was I giving away prizes? No. Were we telling people to run bikers over? No.”

    Just because he wasn’t giving out prizes dosen’t mean that he was doing ANYTHING to discourage this behavior. So by allowing callers to tell stories ON HIS RADIO SHOW, he is not responsible for their comments? Give me a break! The screeners let anti-bike comments be heard, and he was agreeing with them on the air. That is just as bad as saying it himself. Covering it up later is even worse. The guy needs to be taken off the air for a while, if not permanently.

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  • Clinton rider July 20, 2006 at 10:41 am

    I like Dr. Ross’ idea…including a few “start seeing bicycles” stickers. Heck, get rid of the Hummer and get a fleet of Jammin’ Breezers or Electras, or other cruiser-bikes to take to their promo sites, malls, picnics et cetera.

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  • patrick July 20, 2006 at 11:34 am

    Why not see what the Station wants to do and give them feedback if they think it is appropriate. Won’t dictating what WE want them to do only aggravate them more. It seems to me the Breakfast on the Bridge idea is just our way of trying to humilate them.

    They are already put off by the militant cyclist mindset.

    READ some of your comments: MAKE THEM is often the way they start.

    I’m glad I’m going to be out of town for a while to let this thing blow over……

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  • Dabby July 20, 2006 at 11:38 am


    I beleive I know just the person to provide me with a copy of the unedited braodcast.
    I am willing to do this, if it is warranted.
    I love having connections…

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  • Jasun Wurster July 20, 2006 at 11:58 am


    Please, We can have a party on Friday at some place like FreeGeek or where will let us and listen to it. Maybe Disjecta?

    Now I am off to talk the PPB about a picnic on Saturday!


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  • SKiDmark July 20, 2006 at 12:13 pm

    If they are put off by the militant cyclist mindset then maybe they shouldn’t say it’s funny when a cyclist gets hit by a car. People who have never ridden a motorcycle or bicycle do not understand how frightening and dangerous an accident can be or even how scary a close call can be. For the most part accidents in cars produce minor or no injuries; you are surrounded by a tin box, you’ve got your seat belt and your airbag and your full-coverage insurance will replace your car. When you are on a bicyle you don’t have any of this, and you have the added situation that the car that hits you will have little or no damage and could drive away. What gets cyclists so angry or upset when you almost hit them is that their life just flashed before their eyes. It is the mortality of the situation and then the “I didn’t see you” standard response is just icing on the cake.

    I sure as hell am not going to stop cycling because people in cars can’t pay attention to the road. It is their responsibility to pay attention and I will continue to hold them to it.

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  • Jonathan Maus July 20, 2006 at 12:44 pm

    Just received this from the marketing person at the American Red Cross (a show advertiser)

    “The Red Cross has been in touch with the station to let them know that we are deeply concerned about this programming, and that as an organization that has worked with them to get support for our community programs this kind of programming is in total opposition to our mission to save lives and the Fundamental Principle of Neutrality that the Red Cross operates under. As far as any future partnerships with them are concerned, we are awaiting word from the station as to how and if it intends to handle the situation with this DJ before we decide if we will engage in future promotions.”

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  • jami July 20, 2006 at 1:16 pm

    if they come through quick with a huge show of support for bikes, that’ll be fine. if it’s just lip service to jonathan, a half-assed psa, and continued nasty comments everywhere else… let’s keep calling their advertisers until pk is gone.

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  • gb July 20, 2006 at 6:19 pm

    Get the hosts of the show to take an Effective Cycling course and share what they learn there with their listeners. Now that I think of it, are there any decent vehicular cycling courses being offered in Portland geared towards adults? My Google results were entirely dissatisfactory.

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  • steph July 20, 2006 at 7:48 pm

    ahhh, that’s lovely! i picture a car-free week for PK and Tim during which time they navigate their respective ways through their daily errands with its twists and turns, learning firsthand about the life of the average cyclist commuter. the moral and legal ambiguities of cycling down legal pathways made for cars, inhabited increasingly more often by bikes. from the heart-thumping worries around blind turns to the quaint musings about how to get the papa murphy’s pizza AND the tasty beverages home without spilling both, we could learn on a subsequent radio show (and PSA?) what they have discovered on their one-week, two-wheeled track to understanding about those whom they previously wished ill.

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  • Jesse July 20, 2006 at 8:22 pm

    I definently think that simply having the bridge breakfast is the way to do it. Many of you on here are acting like he said to exterminate all the bikers, which he didn’t. He already went on the bike ride with the reporter, and really, not EVERYONE is fit enough to ride their bike to work. Plus they are a morning show, so street lighting is poor. Why can’t we simply move on? You act like kids just got the idea to do stuff to bikers. That doesn’t happen. They have to think for themselves. I go biking and get yelled at and was almost hit with a water bottle once all the time. That is society, you can’t stop everyone. Let it slide, and just don’t listen to the show. But the bridge breakfast is a good option in my opinion.

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  • Jason July 20, 2006 at 8:54 pm

    It seems to me that a visit to the local hospital or with a victim of a Bike vs Car accident would be a very sobering experience. Its easy to make light of situations you never really have to experience. If the community wants to gain an ally then put away the torches and educate. This gentleman has the ability to do a lot of positive with the right motivation given his media access. He seems willing to make amends, show him the consequences of a cavalier attitude and I’m sure he’ll take it from there.

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  • Dom July 21, 2006 at 8:14 am

    Jonathan…any update on a possible deal with Tim?

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  • […] My brain was packed with all the radio show stuff, so I planned to go and just hang out. But of course I end up running into folks and talking bike issues the whole time. Oh well. […]

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  • another bicyclist July 21, 2006 at 10:27 am

    At the risk of sounding completely and courageously loony, here goes:

    1. The joke was made on a hyper-commercial radio station, whose advertisers make products I can very often live without. As a utilitarian bicyclist who eschews car ownership I am not part of their target market, so questions about the sincerity of a radio DJ’s contrition after the fact are indeed appropriate.

    2. People who live consciously and deliberately car-free often share at least some anti-capitalistic, anti-consumerist thoughts and values along with a general disdain for car culture. We’re not talking about our right to RACE here, we’re talking about our right to ride bicycles as SAFE daily transportation, and that flies in the face of a consumerist culture that is inherently car-dependent.
    This isn’t only about bicycles-vs-cars, it’s a much bigger thing that embraces questions of class and privilege as well as the RIGHT to safe movement through a city FOR ALL CITIZENS, regardless of race, origina or income.
    There is some bigger-picture stuff at work here beneath the surface; and that’s why I tend not to focus so hard on these individual incidents as they happen.

    3. When we run out of oil, and SUV’s become the new low-income housing, all of this will be strangely moot. Will it happen in our lifetime? I don’t know, but I’m glad I made the choice to stop owning a car years ago.

    I’m taking off my brave-and-crazy hat now and getting back to my weekend.

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  • […] In my previous post about a phone call with apologetic program manager Tim McNamara, I asked all of you if we should try and cut a deal with the station and move on, or if we should continue to pressure them until the tape is heard. […]

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  • Peter July 21, 2006 at 10:49 am

    We should just forgive and forget at this point. No need for restitution especially with all the nasty, uncalled for emails that have been sent to them.

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  • Kathleen July 21, 2006 at 1:03 pm

    This is somewhat off-topic, but related in a general sense.

    A while back (maybe a year or two) someone from a local radio station followed a mentally disabled woman from her bus stop and on the bus to where she got off. This employee made fun of the woman to her face and on the air, making derogatory comments about the supposed large size of her underwear. The disabled woman knew she was being made fun of, and was in tears when she got to work. Does anyone know if this is the same radio station? I seem to recall that it was 95.5, but am not certain.

    At SE 39th and Division last Saturday I saw an apparently mentally disabled women waiting to cross 39th at the light. As she was crossing, 2 women in a late-model car (I actually have the license number) made a left turn behind her. The passenger threw litter out her window at the disabled woman while laughing (luckily she missed). It would be interesting to know if these 2 women listen to 95.5.

    This kind of behavior is disturbing and I am appalled to think that the public airwaves are used to encourage illegal and hateful behavior regardless of who is the target. Although I work tomorrow I plan to take off enough time to go to the picnic at Grant Park on my bike and if I can work up my nerve ask the 95.5 people some questions.

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  • marc July 21, 2006 at 1:19 pm

    the full and unedited transcript needs to be made public so the public itself can decide if the complaints were justified. i feel it is very important for this to happen as pk himself and tim also have made a number of comments regarding the public outing of the original show comments. i could give a crap less what happens with respect to show sponsers.

    a real apology on the air without any “witty” comments from pk would also be in order.

    anything less than these two items and we, the portland cycling community, will fail to repair the character damaging statements that have been made against us. anything more would be great.

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  • Danny July 21, 2006 at 4:46 pm

    Kathleen and bike portland,
    People dont make fun of handicapped people because of what they hear on the radio, its all in how you were brought up, I was involved in programs that helped handicapped kids at a young age with my parents so I have alot of respect, but many of my friends that didnt have ideal family stability at home still joke and laugh. Same with this issue, if pk tells people to jump off a bridge nobody will do it, but if pk makes fun of cyclist not following the laws and getting creamed its understandable to snicker from a non cyclist viewpoint. Just as the bikeportland community has the 5% that called and threatened Tim Mcnamara’s life the Playhouse fanbase has a small percentage of people that think each taboo topic is funny. I see the playhouse just as I saw Southpark in its prime, southpark hit so many taboo topics that at one point everyone had laughed and been stabbed at.

    Please hope that the rebel 5% of your readers dont show up at the park party and ruin your stance.

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