Oregonian story makes light of running over bicycle riders – UPDATED

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A story posted on The Oregonian’s website earlier today seems to make a joke about very serious and potentially dangerous driving behavior.

The story, Portland’s morning commute without the Sellwood Bridge as told by GIFs is a response to current detours in place due to construction of the new Sellwood Bridge. The construction has caused a lot of congestion and backups during the morning rush hour.

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The author of the story, Adrianna Rodriguez, uses a series of animated GIFs as a humorous way to share what some people are going through as they experience the traffic backups. Each GIF is accompanied by a caption.

“Looking out the window,” the story reads, “bicyclists pass by smiling like…” and the GIF shows a photo of Pee Wee Herman smiling and happy on his bike. Then the next caption reads, “And you just want to be like…” which is followed by a GIF of someone who swerves their car into a pack of bike riders.

This type of thing is totally unacceptable — especially on a day when someone died in a collision with a truck driver.

It’s also worth noting that The Oregonian Editorial Board is actively lobbying City Council to invest fewer dollars of their proposed street fee and tax plan on the type of projects that would make the scenario depicted in that GIF less likely to happen.

We’ve asked The Oregon to edit the story and will update this story when they’ve done so.
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UPDATE, 4:04 pm: The Oregonian has removed the offensive GIF. They have posted this update message at the top of the story:

“Update: We have removed a GIF from this story that was offensive to some of our readers. While this post is tongue-in-cheek and was meant to be humorous, we apologize for unintentionally making light of the dangers that cyclists face on our roads.”

UPDATE, 4:25pm: Reporter Adrianna Rodriguez has tweeted an apology:

UPDATE: @markecarter on Twitter has posted a GIF that would have made much more sense:

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Ben
Ben
9 years ago

That was a very fast, an totally unacknowledged, redaction.

Bjorn
Bjorn
9 years ago

How many times can a news organization print this type of “tongue in cheek” isn’t it funny when the “bikes vs cars” thing just happens, and look at that guy crashing he probably broke some bones right, ha ha ha so funny bike vs cars lol right guys type of thing, before they have to own up to the fact that it isn’t “unintentional”.

Alan 1.0
Alan 1.0
9 years ago
Reply to  Bjorn

Agreed about the terrible judgement that the Oregonian has showed in this regard more than once.

Those riders were Juan Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland in the 2011 TdF, and the errant car was a camera crew. Hoogerland got the worst of it, sliding over a barb wire fence and requiring dozens of stitches. Amazingly, while bloodied and bruised, both riders re-suited and finished that stage. The car and driver were ejected from the race. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013327/Tour-France-Cyclist-collides-car-sending-rival-barbed-wire-fence.html

Pete
Pete
9 years ago
Reply to  Alan 1.0

Watching that happen gave me nightmares that night! Yesterday my wife slid and crashed hard in an avoidance move in the rain when she started to take her turn in traffic at a stop sign but a woman rolled a California stop (here in California – go figure) behind the front car that my wife had stopped for. She didn’t break anything but had to limp to the emergency room where she finished her painful 12-hour shift after getting wounds wrapped up. Personally I think appropriate punishment for people making light of other people getting injured like this should be an equivalent bruising… their chuckles would then change to winces awfully quickly upon seeing photos like this!

rainbike
rainbike
9 years ago
Reply to  Alan 1.0

And if I recall correctly, after pulling himself off the barbed wire fence from which he was left literally hanging and finishing that stage, Hoogerland won the Most Courageous Rider of the day. One tough Netherlander.

was carless
was carless
9 years ago
Reply to  Bjorn

Well, at this point it seems to be a deliberate and cold, calculated political PR type campaign to sway public opinion. I’m starting to believe that the owner of the Oregonian uses it as his political lobbying tool as its not a real news agency.

SEO
SEO
9 years ago
Reply to  was carless

Starting? You must be new in town…:/

So...
So...
9 years ago
Reply to  Bjorn

Yet this post is still funny to Maus:
http://bikeportland.org/2010/02/22/photo-of-the-week-an-overturned-4×4-in-forest-park-29817

It’s odd that he is outraged about this story yet he makes light of a similar situation featuring a car.

Seriously, he wants people to make a funny caption to a picture of a car that is overturned in Forest Park. Nowhere in the post does he mentioned that he knows the passengers of the crashed car are fine.

His only statement is: “Several people in the comments below have shared that they feel this photo and my call for captions were inappropriate. I was very surprised at this reaction and had no intentions at all of making light of this crash.”

Why does he get a pass and not Adrianna?

Anne Hawley
Anne Hawley
9 years ago

I’m pretty tired of the “we’re sorry if you were offended but we were just making a joke” statements that are passed off as apologies. Good that the O retracted today’s example of bad taste, but how many more times do organizations and agencies need to be told that it’s not acceptable to make light of injury, violence, and the demeaning of one group by another? SMH.

wsbob
wsbob
9 years ago

I hope bikeportland readers don’t decide, because of the O writer’s idiotic effort at a joke, don’t proceed in comments here, to express similarly mean, violent references to generally demean people that drive. Decide instead to set a better example, despite the temptation to reply back on a low level set by others.

wsbob
wsbob
9 years ago
Reply to  wsbob

Correction:

“I hope bikeportland readers, because of the O writer’s idiotic effort at a joke, don’t proceed in comments here, to express similarly mean, violent references to generally demean people that drive, to the Oregonian, or to Adrianna Rodriguez the O’s writer.”. …” wsbob

was carless
was carless
9 years ago
Reply to  wsbob

Ever the apologist!

Toadslick
James
9 years ago
Reply to  wsbob

Respectability politics? No thanks.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respectability_politics)

dan
dan
9 years ago

Yeah, I’d like to see them print a story along the lines of “You know how when you’re waiting in a slow line and someone insists on paying for their purchase with a bag of change and you just want to pull out a gun and shoot them?”

Of course, they would never print that, it’s only cyclists that deserve summary execution.

Alan Love
Alan Love
9 years ago
Reply to  dan

That’s the exact analogy I’ve used in conversation with others (waiting at the grocery store – great minds!). It’s seems the only socially accepted form of murder that is justified is when a driver is inconvenienced.

Cheif
Cheif
9 years ago

Where does “freedom of the press” end and “inciting violence” begin? This Adrianna Rodriguez should clearly never again be in the position of her writing being published by a commercial journalistic venture.

Yellow Vest
Yellow Vest
9 years ago
Reply to  Cheif

I was thinking the exact same thing… not to be overly dramatic, but now I have to ride home tonight past all that stopped traffic on Barbur wondering which one of the cars read that article, nodded their head in agreement, and had a bad day at work today…

mran1984
9 years ago

I bet she was driving a car when she “tweeted” her meaningless apology.

wsbob
wsbob
9 years ago
Reply to  mran1984

Apology meaningless to you, it seems, or at least, material you found ripe for a callous joke. Why not take the higher ground and try refrain from that kind of low blow? Maybe she’s been reading the Onion

Adrianna Rodriguez, the O’s writer apparently having posted the gif’s, promptly withdrew them and apologized for the bad judgment. That’s good as far as I’m concerned. Experience for her. I don’t read The Onion, but the impression I’ve kind of had from people’s occasional references to it, is that the kind of joke Rodriguez made, is something readers of that site would find funny. Let me know if that’s not so. At any rate, a quality paper should hold itself to a higher standard.

pengo
pengo
9 years ago
Reply to  wsbob

No, this is not an Onion joke. They’d be more likely to mock the O for publishing vapid off-brand Buzzfeed clickbait.

TonyT
TonyT
9 years ago
Reply to  wsbob

She did NOT apologize for bad judgement.

“I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to offend.”

That’s a classic weak apology there.

mran1984
9 years ago
Reply to  wsbob

I have read The Onion for years. Most likely longer than you have been driving a car. Higher ground? I just threw up in my own mouth. This was a meaningless apology. Print whatever you want then apologize. I am still placing a wager that the “reporter” ( no real proof of that) “tweeted” while driving. Funny that you refer to “callous joke” in this instance. Maybe a real bike ride would clear your head. Maybe there is an “app” that would enable this activity… you know, make it easier to accomplish while driving. If I had the opportunity to address the “seasoned media professional” in person I would certainly extend every fiber of callousness that I could. Who do you lobby for? They don’t ride bikes… that is certain.

Yellow Vest
Yellow Vest
9 years ago
Reply to  wsbob

This is nothing like The Onion, this is real life.

Jimmy
Jimmy
9 years ago

I wasn’t offended until I read the statement “We have removed a GIF from this story that was offensive to some of our readers”. So they are removing it because some people are offended and not BECAUSE IT IS OFFENSIVE??? People do dumb things and this was one of them. Don’t put the blame on me for ruining your fun and games because I have a stick in my ass.

9watts
9watts
9 years ago
Reply to  Jimmy

Classic evasive maneuver. It is called a non-apology apology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-apology_apology

9watts
9watts
9 years ago
Reply to  Jimmy

“This kind of apology shifts the blame onto the offended party, and denies personal acceptance of wrongdoing, as in “I’m sorry if you were offended by what I said”. The “if” implies that the apologiser either doesn’t even know they did wrong (and did not bother to find out) or else does not acknowledge that they did wrong and so are pretending to apologise because they feel obligated to rather than because they are actually sorry. There is no confirmation that the apologiser actually regrets anything or has learnt anything from what they did that was wrong. According to John Kador in Effective Apology, “Adding the word if or any other conditional modifier to an apology makes it a non-apology.”[10]”

wsbob
wsbob
9 years ago
Reply to  9watts

“… There is no confirmation that the apologiser actually regrets anything or has learnt anything from what they did that was wrong. …” watts

The apology from Rodriguez, posted to this bikeportland story, is in the form of a tweet, which by nature, obliges brevity. You’re remarks show no indication you’ve given her the benefit of the doubt, or that you’ve made an effort to find out from her, the sincerity of her apology, or one that’s more detailed.

For a number of bikeportland readers, it seems what’s likely a faux paus on the part of the O writer, is more than anything else, an opportunity to gang up like a pack of wolves on Rodriguez. Readers acting as such, deserve very little further apology, if any, from the paper or its writer.

9watts
9watts
9 years ago
Reply to  wsbob

I’m all for learning, even giving the benefit of the doubt, but “I didn’t mean to offend” is not the gold standard.

John Lascurettes
9 years ago
Reply to  9watts

“I made a mistake” would have been. It’s even more succinct. But she didn’t say that. I’m with you 9watts. It’s a passively-aggressive apology. I’m glad she did it and did it quickly, but it could have been better.

wsbob
wsbob
9 years ago

“…It’s a passively-aggressive apology. I’m glad she did it and did it quickly, but it could have been better.” John Lascurettes

Rodriguez’ tweeted apology may read to some people as a passively-aggressive apology, but a tweet offers very little certainty that the apology is nothing more than that.

Except perhaps to people that have more extensive familiarity with her writing other than this story and the apology, and of her professionally and personally. I can’t say I do, which is why for now, I give her the benefit of the doubt that her apology is sincere, as long as information in future, doesn’t give me good reason to think differently.

I am well aware though, from reading bikeportland stories and certain comments to them, that certain story subjects presented to this site, to some extent wind up inciting some remarkably shallow, unjustified mean spirited thinking. Blowing off steam, getting things off their chests, some of that’s understandable. The opportunity is here though, for efforts to do something better, more constructive than that.

John Lascurettes
9 years ago
Reply to  wsbob

While I admire your predilection to give her the benefit of your doubt, I say she’s a professional writer and should consider her words more carefully for clarity.

However, neither am I suggesting torches and pitchforks here. I’m merely agreeing that it’s kind of a “meh” apology. Though what speaks louder than (the chosen) words, at least, is that offending image was quickly removed from the article.

rain panther
rain panther
9 years ago

Wholeheartedly agree. 140 characters is enough to say, “I made a mistake; I apologize” with room to spare.

CaptainKarma
CaptainKarma
9 years ago
Reply to  wsbob

The limitations of Twitter excuse no one of taking appropriate responsibility for the inciteful (NOT “insightful) remarks. She could use email, dictate to someone via phone or Skype, etc., but was apparently too busy to be too bothered. I long ago quit paying for the Oregronian, but now I’ll probably not read it even when I find it laying about somewhere. ….and perish the thought of clicking upon O’live.

Ben
Ben
9 years ago

Adrianna: to make amends, bike to work every day for a week.

9watts
9watts
9 years ago
Reply to  Ben

biking is not a punishment!

Extremely tasteless of the Oregonian. Par for the course.
but glad to see them retract it. The apology could have gone much further (‘we’ll make every effort not to let this happen again/this was a huge oversight/staff meetings about this sort of thing/etc.), but I guess we’ll take what we can get.

Bella Bici
9 years ago
Reply to  9watts

No. Bicycling is certainly not punishment. However, 9watts, would she commute via bike for a week (I’d prefer a month time window) her perspective would broaden and perhaps, enlightened.

9watts
9watts
9 years ago
Reply to  Bella Bici

Agreed. I just feel strongly that we need to be *very* careful when (appearing to) sentence people to bicycling to make up for their misdeeds.

Yellow Vest
Yellow Vest
9 years ago
Reply to  Bella Bici

Disagree… instead you would just see more vapid clickbait about her bike commutes.

PNP
PNP
9 years ago

I think the second photo is from the Tour de France a few years back, when a media car tried to pass the riders and swerved into the pack (to avoid a tree, if you can believe it, rather than slow down). Two riders ended up entangled in a barbed wire fence, and the driver of the car was permanently banned from the Tour.

Todd Boulanger
Todd Boulanger
9 years ago

Yes we can hope that Ms. Rodriguez and the Oregonian issue a more professional apology in hardcopy print versus just a “drive by” tweet.

From the tweet and the post I assumed the original item might have been a letter to the editor/ informal type post versus an actual “news” article but she is a reporter at The Oregonian, since she does have an official email:

arodriguez@oregonian.com

jeff
jeff
9 years ago
Reply to  Todd Boulanger

oh…now that’s tempting.

o/o
o/o
9 years ago

Why am I not surprised of the O?

pixelgate
pixelgate
9 years ago

I just can’t get on board with all the fake outrage. Clearly it was not meant to be serious. Every day people seem more and more eager to act offended by something.

9watts
9watts
9 years ago
Reply to  pixelgate

“Clearly it was not meant to be serious.”

Oh I don’t think we are unmindful of that. But as humor it also didn’t work for some of us. Did you think it was funny?

pixelgate
pixelgate
9 years ago
Reply to  9watts

I didn’t find it funny just because it’s not very original, but I didn’t find it offensive either. It’s like if a comedian tells a joke about murder or bulimia, they aren’t funny topics but if the context of the humor is right it can be downright hilarious. Those comedy roasts are a great example. Not saying this Oregonian writer is a comedian, but the article was clearly meant to be humorous and taking offense to it as though there was serious intent is highly disingenuous in my book. Let’s save our outrage for when it’s actually required.

9watts
9watts
9 years ago
Reply to  pixelgate

“… the article was clearly meant to be humorous and taking offense to it as though there was serious intent is highly disingenuous… ”

But you’re missing the point some of us are trying to make: We’re not taking offense because we mistakenly thought it was serious; we’re taking offense because it is offensive.

I’m o.k. with you thinking that humor is exempt from criticism, but I happen not to agree with that approach. That oaf Barbur, formerly of the Milwaukie City Council, also thought his Facebook post about killing people on bikes was funny. Until it wasn’t. Lots of people say or post plenty of ill-considered things, many of which they think are funny. But that doesn’t let them off the hook; mean we can’t point out that it isn’t actually funny but tasteless and offensive, especially when some people emulate this sort of behavior on our streets.

pixelgate
pixelgate
9 years ago
Reply to  9watts

We just have a difference of opinion. How is the gif the Oregonian posted any different than saying “argh I hate my boss I wish I could run her over”? It’s not serious, it’s not even worthy of making an issue out of.

Toadslick
James
9 years ago
Reply to  pixelgate

The difference is that bosses aren’t regularly at risk of being run over.

Mike
Mike
9 years ago
Reply to  James

They are if they ride a bike. So if that boss rides a bike, then should we be outraged by that comment?

rain panther
rain panther
9 years ago
Reply to  Mike

I think a better comparison is this. Imagine someone at the Oregonian making a joke about going on a shooting spree at the mall. Would that really fall into the category of “just joking?”

jimmy
jimmy
9 years ago
Reply to  pixelgate

Humor, even the basest of the base, requires a hint of uncomfortable truth/belief in order to find it funny. If nobody related at all to these dark thoughts the joke would fall completely flat.

9watts
9watts
9 years ago
Reply to  jimmy

I have no doubt some people find this hilarious. Remember, Frank Bohannon was heard joking about running over Kerry Kunsman on Hwy 131 at a well-known bar.
http://bikeportland.org/2014/09/26/driver-hit-kerry-kunsman-issued-citation-careless-driving-111488#comment-5578790

TonyT
TonyT
9 years ago
Reply to  pixelgate

Fine, I’m waiting for jokes about rape and lynchings to become acceptable again because “Clearly they weren’t meant to be serious.”

There’s a reason why people were offended at such things. Because they shouldn’t be offered up as attempts at humor. It’s not so much the joke that’s the problem, it’s the mindset that thinks this joke is/could be funny that is the problem.

“Clearly they weren’t meant to be serious.” is a terrible excuse and one that gets unwrapped all too often in an effort to defend all manner of indefensible “jokes.”

And before you say, “well rape and lynchings are serious, this is a joke,” yes, a joke that attempts to make light of an entitled attitude that kills 34,000 people a year.

No fake outrage at that number.

9watts
9watts
9 years ago
Reply to  TonyT

Thank you, TonyT.

John Lascurettes
9 years ago
Reply to  TonyT

Not to mention, the GIF in question was from a real event – not just stated as hyperbole (which is bad enough in itself).

PaulaB
PaulaB
9 years ago
Reply to  TonyT

Also, for humor to be really funny, IMHO, it must speak truth to power. It needs to be poking fun at the norm, the status quo, which in America is the car. If it’s just reinforcing the power imbalance, it falls flat.

For example, I consider Wanda Sykes’ “detachable pussy” set to be a great example of how to tell a rape joke – it pokes fun at the perpetrators and the system that they work within, not the victims.

lyle w.
lyle w.
9 years ago
Reply to  pixelgate

You should spend a little more time looking into the user comments that are attached to every story about cycling on the Oregonlive site. It’s not a sentiment that’s unattached to any reality that exists… it’s appealing to a very specific, very ardent, very rage-filled portion of our society. And it’s not a coincidence that this was put up on that site.
They know exactly who they’re speaking to, and they know exactly how to speak.

SEO
SEO
9 years ago
Reply to  lyle w.

Sadly, I think you are right about this. Which is why we need a bigger, further-reaching community response, maybe flood her email and/or other social media accounts with stories about why we bike, and the dangers we face when we do.

spare_wheel
spare_wheel
9 years ago
Reply to  pixelgate

would posting an image of african americans getting run over be funny?

Cheif
Cheif
9 years ago
Reply to  pixelgate

Intended to be serious or not, it normalizes violence against vulnerable road users. This is the “car culture” equivalent of rape culture and it affects people whether you like it or not.

Yellow Vest
Yellow Vest
9 years ago
Reply to  pixelgate

If you look at her body of work, she reports on very serious issues such as shootings, stabbings and robberies. Can you please go through her past articles and tell me which of the stabbing or sexual assault articles are not meant to be serious?

gutterbunnybikes
gutterbunnybikes
9 years ago

Note to self, practice the feet over the handlebar move when passing traffic on bike. Or better yet knee on seat with other leg fully extended behind me.

Honestly hope to see that some time when I’m behind the wheel, would make the “commute” much more pleasant. I might not be able to enjoy driving at the time, but at least I’d know someone is out having fun out there on the road.

J
J
9 years ago

“and you want to be like”. Ms. Rodriguez need’s a course in morals and grammar.

Mike
Mike
9 years ago
Reply to  J

It was a tasteless joke! Proper english for a bad joke?!

Joe
Joe
9 years ago

be more human will ya.. try riding and see if you can hang, bet you fade into ur box. sorry.. RIP to the rider 🙁

Keith
Keith
9 years ago

The Oregonian sinks further and further every week. I remember when it was a real newspaper. Only a a few more downward steps and it will become 100% tabloid. Soon we’ll only find it in the checkout line next to the National Enquirer.

Chris I
Chris I
9 years ago

Give her a break, she probably gets paid hardly anything and will be out of a job in a few years.

9watts
9watts
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris I

What kind of an excuse is that? Her editors approved it and I bet they have plenty of money and job security.

spare_wheel
spare_wheel
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris I

I don’t have much sympathy for people who work for amoral wingnut billionaires.

Adam H.
Adam H.
9 years ago
Reply to  spare_wheel

Oh stop it. As if it’s just so easy to find a job based on what kind of person you want the owners to be.

spare_wheel
spare_wheel
9 years ago
Reply to  Adam H.

I make absolutely no apologies for resenting people who work for billionaire-owned media conglomerates that distort and pervert public discourse for their own gain.

Jeff
Jeff
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris I

so its OK for her to post callous BS statements in a public forum? its OK for her to dehumanize real members of her community and wish them extreme bodily harm because she’s in some contrived hurry?

Brian Mack
Brian Mack
9 years ago

Exactly what I would expect from the editors of the Boregonian: poor reporting, short-sighted commentary, and an apathetic apology.

q`Tzal
q`Tzal
9 years ago

Funny thing is that it is ok for drivers to be frustrated while people on bicycles glide by happily; isn’t that the “bike appeal” advertising slogan?
Look how slow you are going and how fast I’m going on on a bicycle.
Look how angry and frustrated you are stuck in traffic and how exhilarated, energetic and healthy I am riding my bicycle to work.

Hasn’t this ALWAYS been the urban PR strategy to convert drivers to bicycle riders?

They have no right to act out violently against us and it is of shaky legality of public institutions to promote violence.
BUT… we have to acknowledge… they have every right to be frustrated and irritable.
They just don’t have the right to ACT on that anger NOR is it responsible for a trusted institution to legitimize such violent outbursts by making it apappear “normal”.

econoline
econoline
9 years ago

Zero chance she gets any discipline, if anything this better get a raise. Personally I think many of these “reporters” including this one are just intentionally posting offensive items because they are only being judged on clicks and bullshit bikes vs cars stories get lots of clicks.

KillMoto
KillMoto
9 years ago

Problem: more cars on the road than roadway capacity is making me late for work.

Solution: get angry at the people who are not driving in any of those cars.

Doesn’t make any sense.

Yellow Vest
Yellow Vest
9 years ago

My Digital O writing sample:

“Out window, bike is like ‘U Mad?’

And I’m like ‘KYS DIAF’

And they’re like ‘Wut?’

I’m just jel, lol.”

Andyc of Linnton
Andyc of Linnton
9 years ago

This is surprising in what way?
Maybe Peewee is smiling because he’s never read an Oregonian.

Dan P.
Dan P.
9 years ago

Ugh… another perfect example of why humor should be left to professionals. When unfunny people try to funny, more often than not, this is what you get. I would very much like to be funny but I don’t try because I have a great enough respect for comedians to know that theirs is an art and craft that they have often spent years perfecting in order to make it look so effortless. Having not put in that time and effort (and not having the time to anyway) I leave it to them.

Tim
Tim
9 years ago

Okay, yes, the bike GIF is deeply offensive — seriously, it was bad and the O should feel bad — but I’m way more grossed out by the O publishing a super-lame Buzzfeed-ripoff GIF blog post in the first place. Ten years ago the paper would not have stooped so low. No doubt there’s loads of embarrassed people in the newsroom, and I feel for them.

It’s like the Seinfeld “No, it offends me as a comedian” joke. Does it offend me as a cyclist? Not really. Does it offend me as a news reader? Hell yes.

Rob
Rob
9 years ago

When seeing someone enjoying themselves on a bike, her reaction is “I want to take that happiness away from them” instead of “I need to try me some of that happiness.”

Paul in the "couve
Paul in the "couve
9 years ago

Really, there is no excuse here. The Oregonian is a major new player in a serious cycling town, and knows better and the reporter should know better or shouldn’t be working. No excuse. No credit for quick redaction. No excuse.

{sanitized my sanitized exhortations to avoid moderation, let the old version die]

Jeff M
Jeff M
9 years ago

Apologizing and not meaning to offend is different than understanding why her actions were disgusting. I do not accept that as an adequate response. I am ashamed of Adrianna Rodriguez and of the Oregonian. I am ashamed that they publish in our community.

D.D. Lyon
D.D. Lyon
9 years ago

The bill payment, for the Oregonian delivery, goes to Kentucky. How much do the s.e. con. owners empathize with Oregonians? Ha ha, yeah. I am canceling my service.

Seth Alford
Seth Alford
9 years ago

I cancelled our Oregonian subscription because of this. Yes, I should have cancelled it sooner.

Skid
Skid
9 years ago

Boohoohoo cyclists are passing you while you sit in traffic. Get a bike.