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A business owner shares concerns about N. Wheeler Avenue closure plans

Posted by on August 20th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

Despite a growing sense of urgency from the Portland Bureau of Transportation (PBOT), and calls from stakeholders, the public, this site and the Bicycle Transportation Alliance to close it immediately, North Wheeler Avenue is still open. Delaying action is a growing opposition from nearby businesses, who worry about impacts of the closure and who feel PBOT is choosing the wrong fix to the problem.

Last week, following yet another injury collision due to a right hook, it seemed like PBOT should act on their own findings that the intersection was inherently dangerous and should be closed “immediately”. PBOT was all but ready to drop down some temporary traffic barricades last week; but then it emerged that some business owners that use Wheeler to access their buildings were not happy with how the move would impact them.

After public pressure mounted on Friday, Mayor Sam Adams (who oversees PBOT as Transportation Commissioner) said via Twitter that he’d do a site visit today and then discuss the issue with his staff. According to one of his staff members, Adams did the visit over the weekend and he discussed the issue with his staff today. Meanwhile, I’ve learned there’s a meeting with nearby business owners tomorrow (Tuesday, 8/21).

Looking south, with Flint on the left and Wheeler on the right.

I spent a while observing traffic at the intersection this morning, and I met one of the business owners in opposition of the closure; Bob Huckaby, owner of First, Inc, an office furniture installation company based at 524 N. Tillamook.

“Instead of making people obey the laws, they’re penalizing everyone else, and that’s not right. The bikes are getting hit because they don’t stop… If they stopped at the stop sign you wouldn’t have a problem. Guaranteed.”
— Bob Huckaby, owner of First Inc.

Huckaby says he represents a growing number of business owners in the Lower Albina district who are “getting heated” about PBOT’s closure proposal. During our conversation this morning, Huckaby said repeatedly that he feels the real problem isn’t the right-hooks. Rather, Huckaby feels that the problem would be solved without needing to close Wheeler if people on bikes would stop running the stop sign at Flint Avenue.

The Wheeler/Broadway intersection is one side of a narrow peninsula formed by Flint/Broadway/Wheeler. Flint is the main bike route for downtown-bound morning bike commuters with hundreds (thousands?) of bike riders rolling through it every day. The vast majority of them fly right through the stop sign at Flint and Broadway, which is a 90-degree right turn toward the Broadway Bridge. The problem arises because just a few feet west of Flint is Wheeler; and many cars that go to turn right (north) on Wheeler don’t see people on bikes until it’s too late. In some cases, the people on bikes aren’t seen in time because they fly through Flint without stopping.

It’s not news that a lot of people fail to stop at the Flint/Broadway intersection. I’ve covered that issue numerous times over the years and we’ve been through police enforcement actions and PBOT adding signage and markings. But the behavior persists. Watching this morning, I would say it’s just over 50% of people on bikes that don’t even come close to stopping. Only about 20% or so fully stop. That’s terrible.

Huckaby is upset that PBOT is intent on closing Wheeler because he feels the bad actors in the situation are bike riders. “Instead of making people obey the laws, they’re penalizing everyone else, and that’s not right,” he said. “The bikes are getting hit because they don’t stop… If they stopped at the stop sign you wouldn’t have a problem. Guaranteed.” Instead of closing Wheeler, Huckaby wants stronger enforcement of existing stop sign laws. “Make everyone follow the laws. If we all obey the laws, we’re not going to have this problem.”

Huckaby says that so far, PBOT is still insistent on the closure. To raise awareness of their issues, he said they’re going to the media with their case and he assured me that KATU is planning a story exposing all the illegal riding. Huckaby said he feels closing Wheeler would be yet another “anti-business” move by the City of Portland. The way he sees it, he pays nearly $30,000 in taxes each year to run his business, and now he’s seeing a street closed because of a safety issue brought on by too many people riding through the Flint stop sign. To him, it doesn’t seem fair.

(Huckaby also pointed out how many drivers don’t come to a complete stop either (on Flint or on the I-5 slip ramp just east of it). He’s also concerned about trees and bushes on the median in front of Paramount Apartments.)

In addition to more enforcement, Huckaby thinks PBOT should just close Flint and route bike traffic to either N Vancouver (which has a traffic signal).

Huckaby feels like the closure of Wheeler would create another safety problem. “We’ll have one exit out on Thompson, so all the sudden, it’s a big safety problem… One exit is all you’d have for the 2,000 or so people that work down there… If you have a fire or something, an emergency, how do you get people out of there?”

Huckaby said he’s hosting a meeting with Mayor Adams, PBOT staff, and other business owners tomorrow morning. In the end, he acknowledges the traffic safety problem needs to be addressed; but so far, he’s not willing to sit idly by and let PBOT close the street.

“We all agree there’s a problem. We don’t want a death. But the problem is, get the ones that are breaking the law. Put some police out there.”

Stay tuned.

UPDATE: I just heard through the grapevine that PBOT plans to close the street on Wednesday. I’ll provide more details when I can.

Below is some raw footage I shot this morning:

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Nick

I’ve only ever come through this intersection from Broadway and I am ALWAYS on red-alert. I’d like to see evidence that it’s the “non-stoppers” that are being hit. I always felt I could be next– there’s just too much going on here. I say “felt” because I avoid this nonsense and go over different bridges now (my experience being right-hooked at NE Broadway and Victoria hasn’t helped either). It’s the opposite of empowering to have to choose your route by safety, but it is what it is…

andy
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andy

Question: what percentage of the cyclists who have been right-hooked at this intersection have been coming down Broadway, and what percentage have come down Flint (and blown the stop sign)? Let’s have the data.

Blake
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Blake

I don’t take the Broadway bridge but I do ride down Vancouver and it would be impossible to route the bridge-bound traffic that way. The I-5 offramp stops at the same light so you would have to have many bikes crossing that on very short green lights for Vancouver which would end up piting right turning bikes against a short light and bikers continuing straight moving quickly to catch a short green light. The alignment of the I-5 offramp makes it impossible to give a way for people to turn right any other way.

Barry
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Barry

Looks like Ladd’s circle.

Nick
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Nick

Enforcement can only do so much. They can’t police every person that comes through that intersection, every day. The problem is obviously deeper — that stretch of road is not designed to handle the types and volume of traffic now being thrown at it. It needs to be fixed. Regardless of who is “punished”, they should figure something out that will prevent harm ASAP. Arguing about who gets punished is like when children bicker about who should get punished. It’s missing the point. There is a death waiting to happen here, and we shouldn’t wait around for it.

davemess
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davemess

I don’t really see how stopping makes that intersection safer for cyclists (Granted people should stop at stop signs). The bike lane is open, and cars still have to cross the bike lane to make a right turn. It’s just a VERY poorly designed area (even if EVERY single cyclists stops at that sign). There is still only about 30-40 between the two streets for cars to see bikes that may have turned onto Broadway.

I too would like to see the data of hit while coming down Broadway or turning from Flint.

twowheelsandalady
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Tired of hearing that cyclists running stop signs are the REAL cause of these accidents.

The numbers show this is a misconception: improper turns by cars still outweigh stop-sign running as a cause of accidents (data from Pittsburgh):

http://twowheelsandalady.com/2012/08/16/the-stop-sign-running-cyclist-debunked-data-shows-real-causes-of-crashes/

davemess
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davemess

Sorry, meant to say “30-40 feet between streets”

LoneHeckler
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LoneHeckler

I don’t disagree with Mr. Huckaby’s assessment that people on bikes frequently blow this stop sign — I’m an ex-scofflaw myself at this particular intersection — but I take issue with a couple of his points. His idea to close Flint smacks of NIMBY-ism: Close another street (affecting other businesses) but not his.

Also: The last time I checked, most people don’t evacuate a building by driving away from it down a street. In the event of a fire or other “emergency”, I think people with be able to evacuate just fine.

Lastly, please don’t “guarantee” my safety with more bicycle-as-lawbreaker rhetoric. It doesn’t help the argument and just leads to further conflict and ridiculous “news” stories on TV.

Here’s an idea: Close the street now *temporarily* while we work on creative solutions (signaling? design changes? help me out here) in order to avoid any tragedies.

9watts
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9watts

Did the folks driving cars and pickups and SUVs who in recent weeks and months right hooked people riding bikes all stop? I presume they have the same stop sign that Huckaby is saying people on bikes ignore. If everyone were going slower, obviously the potential damage from a collision would be reduced. But I too will say that I’m suspicious of this statement:
“The bikes are getting hit because they don’t stop… If they stopped at the stop sign you wouldn’t have a problem. Guaranteed.”

Allan
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Allan

Jonathan- you were at the same presentation as me where Greg Raisman talked about how ‘not stopping can contribute to an accident, but stopping can also contribute to an accident’. The problem is the curve on Broadway and the fact that PBOT doesn’t have the balls to close the right lane on Broadway downstream from this location. If everyone in the right lane had to turn on to Flint or Wheeler, Then bikes would know what to expect from the cars. As it is presently designed, bikes don’t know what to expect and since almost everyone is going straight, it leads to accidents.

PBOT- Force everyone to turn at Wheeler or merge beforehand! This will eliminate the right hook problem

Chris Smith
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The most dangerous behavior for a cyclist in this stretch is overtaking cars on the right, which is frequently possible, but completely legal. Even if every cyclist came to a full stop at Flint, we would still have a very elevated right-hook risk. This risk is much more a factor of geometry than behavior.

But this is a difficult concept to explain to someone who does not ride this stretch themselves. I hope Sam and PBOT staff can get this across in tomorrow’s meeting.

I also hope PBOT will work hard to identify opportunities to increase access to Lower Albina at other points to help offset the impact of a closure on businesses. There IS a real impact, although I agree that safety is the key issue here and Wheeler should be closed.

Barry
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Barry

Is EVERY comment going to rationalize why its OK to not stop at the stop sign?

Chris Smith
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I stop at the stop sign (might be a rolling stop, but I’m slowed to the point where I can assess oncoming traffic, and in this case look for right blinkers). Blowing through the stop sign at speed at this location is an irrational act of self-destruction. But 100% compliance and defensive riding would not make this intersection safe.

oliver
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oliver

It sounds like yet another version of the “why should we do anything about safety when so many cyclists run stop-signs” argument. (Actually, it is the same argument)

While I am sympathetic to the concerns that this may lower his drop-in traffic, I would also like to see the data that it is the stop sign runners that are being right hooked here. Studies consistently show that driver error is the cause of the majority of motor vehicle/bicycle collisions.

How many automobiles used their turn indicators properly prior to being involved in collisions at this location? I see an absurd amount of failure to use turn signals, maybe that’s the problem.

A few weeks ago* I saw some someone on a bike not only run the stop sign there, but was even going so fast that she was unable to keep from veering into the motor vehicle lane as she over-shot the corner. That was unacceptably stupid, but it didn’t absolve me of my responsibility to respect the posted speed or maintain my lane for the remainder of my journey or at any time.

*when driving.

Spiffy
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good to hear Huckaby’s valid concerns… too bad we can’t see what he’s talking about…

oh a video!

oh, waste of a video op… can’t tell which cyclists are causing more conflicts because of the bad angle… should have shot it on the other side of Wheeler looking up Broadway… extra bonus is you wouldn’t have had to hide in the bushes…

Chris Smith
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“help me understand the car driver’s point of view”

You slow approaching Wheeler and look back. Your field of vision may be clear, and then a cyclist either coming down Broadway (which has an angle near the freeway ramp), or from Flint, suddenly comes alongside the right of your car as you turn. You couldn’t see them because the appeared quickly from either the left or right edges of your field of vision.

GlowBoy
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GlowBoy

I don’t doubt Huckaby’s right that when a cyclist blows the stop sign at Flint, it can catch motorists off guard when they’re turning right on Wheeler, potentially not giving them enough time to react. Running that sign is a really boneheaded move to make, and puts you at extremely high risk for getting right hooked.

But while this may account for some share of the right hooks at Wheeler, I I highly doubt that it is responsible for the majority of incidents. I think most of them really are instances of the cyclist JRA, and motorists are cutting off because Broadway curves immediately before Flint, impairing the usual view to the rear, and cyclists are going faster than “usual” due to the downhill grade.

As Chris Smith said, it’s fundamentally a geometry problem, not a bike-scofflaw problem.

I do agree with Huckaby that we do need to see more enforcement. Let’s start with failure to yield to the bike lane when turning across it.

Side note, and tip for Mr. Huckaby: if you’re trying to win Portlanders over to your point of view on something, dragging out the old “anti-business” canard isn’t going to help your case. Makes you look like a crank with an axe to grind, rather than someone who genuinely cares about making the city safer and more functional.

matt
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matt

Well, you caught me rolling through the stop sign, but so did the motorcyclist in front of me! It may not look like it from the video, but I had slowed down enough to assess that there was no oncoming traffic and I could safely continue without losing too much momentum. Trust me, I am VERY careful at this intersection and have witnessed many near misses. If there are cars coming down Broadway I assume that any/all of them are making a R on to Wheeler and wait for them to pass.

9watts, I’m guessing that the car that overtook Johnwas traveling southbound on Broadway and therefor had no stop-sign, but they turn R on Wheeler across the bike lane without signaling.

Mike
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Mike

Would it kill some of you to actually drive a car? Then you would see things from a different point of view. I know it is a stretch!

Lenny Anderson
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Lenny Anderson

The traffic violation here that puts others’ life and limb at risk is crossing a bike lane without yielding the right of way to traffic in that lane. Its the Right Hook! If there is to be an enforcement solution, it should focus on those violations. But enforcement at an ill-designed corner is a fool’s errand. Chris is right, close Wheeler at Broadway and improve other access to the area businesses. Or the businesses may want to form an LID, to pay for a traffic signal at Wheeler/Flint & Broadway…I saw a woman waiting a long time to cross Broadway at that corner this AM. Nobody was yielding to her. That would slow things to a stop.

rb
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rb

Where is the green paint? The ODOT treatment on Barbur turning onto highway 10 has improved auto awareness.

Tony
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Tony

I thought that the general policy for traffic control was to remove signals which are always ignored and to up the speed limit when everyone speeds.

If the cars knock down the bollards, best just remove them.

jim
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jim

Are you going to eliminate all of the right hand turns going down Broadway? Bikes do get some speed going downhill and can’t stop very well if there is a car in their way.

Ted Buehler
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Ted Buehler

Jonathan — did you and he look at a Ma during this discussion? It sounds like he doesn’t know his way around very well.

The Lower Albina industrial area can be accessed from
• Wheeler
• Ross
• Benton
• Dixon
• Tillamook, and
• Thompson

This should provide adequate ingress/egress for all emergency situations.

Ted Buehler

9watts
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9watts

Mike
Would it kill some of you to actually drive a car?
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Given how many people are killed by people driving cars your unintentional humor is appreciated.

Michael
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Michael

The problem is the drivers’ behavior, not the cyclists.

I lived in the netherlands for 4 + years and rode a bike there every day (I had no car), and the main difference between drivers in NL and drivers here is that there drivers have learned they need to slow down and look far to their right (essentially looking through the rear passenger seat window) as they make right turns to ensure no bicyclists are in the bike lanes. Here drivers don’t think about cyclists (admittedly a generalization) when they make right turns, and are thus surprised and angry when they hit one of us.

How to turn right properly needs to be taught in drivers’ ed here in the states. That’s the long term solution.

ME 2
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ME 2

I used to ride this route to work. I can’t say that I religously stopped nor did I blow through the sign. I rolled it looking at both cyclists on traffic in the right lane. Self preservation always trumps right of way for me. I have no problem stopping or slowing to avoid a right hook, but this nly works for motorists who signal that they’re turning. The 5 or 6 times a month where I was nearly right hooked at that spot was always due to motorists not signalling. If the business owner wants everyone to obey the law then it extends to his customers and workers. I’m willing to bet there is a significant number of motorists who don’t even turn their signal on at this intersection.

Elliot
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Elliot

The problem with access to this area isn’t closing Wheeler. It’s I-5, which closed access to/from the east for Page, Thompson, Tillamook, and Hancock.

If Huckaby wants another point of access (or two, or three, or four…) he could ask PBOT and ODOT to remove I-5.

Ok, serious now: Huckaby should ask PBOT to look into opening Hancock between Flint and Wheeler. If that vacant land isn’t already public ROW, perhaps Public Storage (or whoever the property owner is) could donate it as an act of goodwill toward neighboring businesses. First Inc. and other businesses could then raise the funds necessary to (re)construct a few dozen linear feet of street.

Chris A.
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Chris A.

Hmm… Looking at the video, I would suggest that maybe PDOT just remove the bike lane and have bicyclists take the lane on Broadway.

This would force bicyclists to properly come to a stop and it would eliminate the right hooks since the motorists would have to be in mixed traffic with the bicyclists.

Looking at the video, either bicyclists are going slow enough to use the sidewalk instead, or fast enough to keep up with traffic on Broadway.

Charley
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Charley

Huckaby’s right that lots of people roll through that stop sign. He’s wrong that this fact is the single greatest cause of right hooks at that intersection. In fact, wouldn’t the riders descending B’Way be going faster than riders coming from Flint? And wouldn’t that be the greatest danger? In which case the real solution is to stop the cars making right hooks. So how would stopping riders at Flint keep drivers from right hooking people who’ve come down B’Way?

DIMcyclist
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DIMcyclist

Having been run over before (an experience I highly recommend to motorists, as part of a continuing effort to understand the cyclist’s situation in traffic), I tend to play it pretty safe at stop signs and in six years have never had a problem at Flint. That said, I’d love to see any data relating that intersection to nearby Wheeler. Wheeler (between Broadway & Weidler) seems to be an unnecessary street; the businesses there might do well to just assimilate it into their parking area.

FWIW, I still ride the Tillamook-Flint route into downtown on a regular basis. For anyone who knows it, it’s the quickest, safest way to access the Broadway Bridge from NE; it very conveniently skips right around all the traffic at the freeway interchange and has a good lookout where it joins Broadway. I should hate to see the Flint overpass scrapped when they rebuild the on-ramps.

Pete F
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Pete F

There was a motorcycle cop sitting right on Flint and Broadway this morning right before 9. Everyone behaved really well.

John Lascurettes
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As one could have predicted, Huckaby got his wish on enforcement this morning. I came to a complete stop, didn’t even check over my right shoulder for cops as is my routine because there was bike traffic coming from the the left. I made my turn after the bikes went by. I caught the light at Ross and as it turned green I stood on the pedals to go. Another cyclist passed me, and then a motorcycle cop passed me and pulled that cyclist over. I bet that cyclist feels safer that he didn’t get right hooked with a ticket in his hand. 😉

are
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apparently i missed something. from the headline, i thought we were going to hear some of the concerns this business owner had about how closing the intersection would hurt him and/or the other businesses. instead all we hear are his curbstone analysis of who is to blame for something or other. i imagine these businesses are coming to PBoT with reasons, if not data, as to why they need this street open. but we are not hearing those reasons.

Wizzard of Odd
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Wizzard of Odd

I just looked at that intersection on Google Earth. If you go to ‘street view’ at a point on Flint a block or so north of the intersection, and then look south and scroll down the street to Broadway you will find something very interesting. You can watch as a cyclist blows through the stop without appearing to slow down at all (followed right after by an ambulance). If the google camera can pick this up, then my guess is that it is way too common.

Fred Lifton
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Fred Lifton

That motorcycle cop has been there a few days now, ticketing cyclists. I saw him writing a cyclist a ticket the other day while a block down a semi-truck was completely covering the entire bike lane, forcing bikes into the traffic in the center lane of Broadway. Nice.

Sunny
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Sunny

Amateurs! The solution is a gigantic mirror.

Joe
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Joe

I love FOX12 news this morning setting up cam and news lady on the corner saying oh thier goes a rider without a helmet, oh look the riders don’t stop. just crazy!

stansforth
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stansforth

Oooh Jonathan! I’m glad you were not filming this morning when I went right on Broadway off Flint. I did a perfectly safe rolling stop (in my estimation) and Broadway was free of cars. There was a news van and camera there by the daycare center so I quickly fixed my brow and straightened my collar while sucking in my gut, in case I am on TV. On top of all that I did the usual stuff at that intersection: I glance for cops on wheeler as I have done since their sting a few years ago, and I look for oncoming Broadway traffic. If there are cars coming I will wait til it’s safe to go, whether it’s a foot plant or slow roll.

I was hit at Broadway/Wheeler in 2006 or 2007 (Friday April 13th) by a school board exec from pennsylvania, but I was coming down Broadway from 7th, rather than turning off Flint. That is the most dangerous situation if you ask me because you can go as fast as cars coming down that Broadway hill.

Arem
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Arem

Felt like throwing this in here since I’ve biked in Portland for a few years now…I see a good many people around town have a VERY loose definition of what constitutes an “Idaho stop.” Being from Idaho myself and growing up with that law in place…I know what one looks like when I see it and it’s pretty rare around here.
I have to recall my motorcycle training and to just “ride your own ride.” Don’t follow somebody else’s judgment when deciding to stop/slow/go. Look both ways, heads on swivel folks.

Owen Walz
Guest

To clarify: Cyclists turning right at Flint are turning into a bike-only lane, NOT a shared lane. Therefor the purpose of the stop sign (for bicycles) is ostensibly to prevent bikes colliding with other bikes zipping down Broadway, not to prevent bike / auto collisions. If everyone was staying in their lane and being observant, there shouldn’t be an increase in bike-auto collisions due to rolling stops by bicyclists, am I right?

The argument I’m hearing is that cyclists should be stopping and waiting for AUTO traffic, even though auto traffic shouldn’t be in the bike lane anyway. The argument is that cyclists should stop and wait for cars to clear to avoid being right-hooked?

I’m in favor of cyclists following traffic laws, but this logic seems off.

180mm_dan
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180mm_dan

Wheeler becomes closed. But still the next right hook is Ross St. Will accidents just shift to there? People still need to use the brain that their bike helmet protects… 4-wheel drivers will still attempt to turn at Wheeler for a long while out of habit, then go to Wheeler… This stretch will remain dangerous probably as long as, well, as long as bikes ride down Broadway….

Adam
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Adam

If Bob Huckaby did his homework properly, he would already know that there are NO TURNS allowed off N Vancouver where it intersects with Broadway.

If he feels so inclined, he can go to Google Maps, click on the intersection, and view it in Google Streetview, to see the “NO TURNS” signage positioned over every lane.

So… Bob Huckaby is proposing… what exactly? That bikes break the law, and turn right illegally from N Vancouver onto Broadway? But, only two minutes ago, he seemed so passionately against bikes breaking the law!!

(Sigh.)

180mm_dan
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180mm_dan

er, mistyped, “go to Wheeler” I mean “Ross” St

Patrick
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Jest reconfigure the intersection like this mock-up I created. The cares would have to stop before entering the bike lane just like intersections found in the Netherlands. Problem solved.

Mock-Up: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikelustcomics/7833422752/

Intersection in the Netherlands: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEXD0guLQY0&feature=relmfu

Notice how people driving cars have a space to stop and yield to a cyclist?

El Biciclero
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El Biciclero

“When a cyclist suddenly rides out on Flint, that motorist probably had no idea they were there.”

–This can happen whether a cyclist stops first or not. Starting up from a stop looks just like “suddenly riding out”.

“A motorist that is aware for a longer time that a bicyclist is on the roadway decreases the likelihood of an accident.”

–Bingo. Further down Broadway, farther away from the 45-degree angle that happens pretty much exactly at Flint, drivers will have much better rear-view visibility to see cyclists in the bike lane, regardless of where they turned from or whether they stopped or not.

007
Guest

“The argument I’m hearing is that cyclists should be stopping and waiting for AUTO traffic….The argument is that cyclists should stop and wait for cars to clear to avoid being right-hooked?”

That is not my understanding at all. We need to stop for cyclists coming down the hill AND because of the short space between the stop sign and Wheeler. A driver could look in their side mirror, not see a bike, resume looking ahead to make their legal turn from the auto lane (meanwhile a cyclist has run the stop) and is going past Wheeler as the vehicle turns.
I’m not saying this is the only reason there are so many right hooks there because we all know that drivers often do not bother looking in their mirror, and even when they do, do not yield to the bike lane, but this intersection is unique and cyclists should stop.

Jolly Dodger
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If American autos had right side driver’s positions…. cyclists & drivers could have eye contact at the triple turn and reduce (but not eliminate) a large number of these “accidents” – which we all know by know are simply mistakes of various degrees and consequences. When a stop sign is run and no one is hurt, a cyclist feels victorious to have maintained momentum….when it all goes wrong, well…we can only mourn. Cars kill…drivers are human, and we all make mistakes. Bikes are inherently more vulnerable and should be viewed as such. All these ‘rules’ are for naught when a poorly designed & heavily used arterial such as this is a primary route for all forms of usage. It’s a clusterfu*k for sure, and a temporary closure seems a fix of sorts…for now.

commuter
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commuter

Be careful out there folks… all of these changes might be nice until you encounter a driver who is texting…