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  1. Comment by lyle w. October 23, 2018 @ 5:53 pm | Link

    Trust me, he doesn't have any problem at all with that act of violence.

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  2. Comment by Bob loblaw October 23, 2018 @ 5:50 pm | Link

    Don't want to get run over? Don't stand in the street. I don't care what you're protesting don't do it in the middle of the road like a complete asshole.

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  3. Comment by Moto Metal October 23, 2018 @ 5:45 pm | Link

    Hope to ride the Crown-Zellerbach Trail in the future. One local guy mentioned about the trail said it was fun with nice countryside scenery.

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  4. Comment by encephalopath October 23, 2018 @ 5:44 pm | Link

    Eliminationist rhetoric is always somehow "just a joke" when people get called out on it.

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  5. Comment by maccoinnich October 23, 2018 @ 5:43 pm | Link

    Ah, yes, the old "while we are not opposed..." argument that the PBA uses so frequently.

    It's now 6 and a half years since the PBA lobbied to kill a bike lane on SW 12th Ave. From their letter, dated April 26th, 2012:

    "As a point of beginning, the Alliance is involved with the Central City 2035 process that will determine the land use and transportation plans for the central city for the next 25 years. We recognize and support the city’s efforts to develop a comprehensive, multi-modal transportation system, and we will continue to participate in the process of developing the strategies that will implement that goal.

    We are concerned that, while this planning process is underway, there are one-off programs that are being implemented outside a comprehensive land use and transportation strategy for the central city. The SW 12th Avenue Cycle Track proposal is an example of these one-off programs. While the Alliance supports the development of a multi-modal transportation system and creating innovative ways to promote trips to the central city, we are concerned that the process to develop the proposed SW 12th Avenue Cycle Track is moving too quickly and merits more discussion before more project planning moves forward. We request that the city engage with stakeholders to develop a comprehensive analysis of all the streets within the central city, and as part of the Central City 2035 Plan. That way, transportation investments such as Cycle Tracks will be located and designed with a broader land use, development and central city-wide access framework in mind. We look forward to working with you throughout this process."

    PBOT has held off on making significant investments in downtown until the broader process the PBA asked for was complete. Now that Central City 2035 is adopted and Central City in Motion is ready to go to council, they're again trying to stall progress.

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  6. Comment by SD October 23, 2018 @ 5:42 pm | Link

    Wondering how many of the 1,900 businesses are actually PBA members or are represented by PBA? I remember when this issue came up before that the PBA lists businesses that no longer support (or are members) of the PBA. Also a reminder to ask businesses that are on the PBA's list to stop their support or ask that their names be removed.

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  7. Comment by 9watts October 23, 2018 @ 5:36 pm | Link

    "I’m not sure where one gets them"

    City Bikes?

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  8. Comment by Craig October 23, 2018 @ 5:32 pm | Link

    Both drivers of cars and cycles need to act responsibly. I observe that often neither do. Or is it now only "Believe bicyclists?"

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  9. Comment by 9watts October 23, 2018 @ 5:32 pm | Link

    Except you seem to be skipping over the fact that in this country premeditated violence against minorities (of all varieties) is a daily occurrence. Someone (anyone) could feel emboldened by language that the speaker feels is 'just a joke.'

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  10. Comment by Sarah j October 23, 2018 @ 5:19 pm | Link

    Yea target small business owners that have to deal with the angry mob in downtown almost daily, make him suffer and ruin his business because of his opinion, stupid liberals. Fuck Portland, you're city is disgusting and you allow these people to act above the law, obstructing traffic , breaking shit , and causing the majority to suffer. These people protesting don't pay taxes , fuck off, the car should hit them harder next time. Oregon is under castle doctrine retards , though not use by name. If one of these protesters touch my car or keep me from freely moving , putting me and my family in fear of my life I'm Legally allowed to take action ., Oregon would make a good red state its un fortunate Portland is the majority of population filled with meth heads, illegals, and nasty strippers, and the politicaly Ill . So happy I moved!

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  11. Comment by Dan A October 23, 2018 @ 5:17 pm | Link

    My guess is that our leader plans to sell out our country's standing even further to line his pockets instead.

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  12. Comment by Dan A October 23, 2018 @ 5:13 pm | Link

    It's one thing to say that the police should ticket people who are blocking the roadway, and another to say, "Sometimes running over bicyclists and pedestrians is the only way they’ll learn."

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  13. Comment by bikeninja October 23, 2018 @ 5:13 pm | Link

    Does anyone think this guy would find it funny if people in the bike community told "warped humor" jokes about vandalizing all the cars parked along his stretch of Hawthorne or jokes about burning down knife stores.

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  14. Comment by 9watts October 23, 2018 @ 5:13 pm | Link

    that is not the half of it.
    https://thenewpress.com/books/strangers-their-own-land

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  15. Comment by Dan A October 23, 2018 @ 5:12 pm | Link

    "get yourself familiarized with the Oregon Driving Law’s (sic)"

    I'm willing to bet that the regular reader here is more familiar with Oregon driving laws than Clive is.

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  16. Comment by James A Hilsenteger October 23, 2018 @ 5:12 pm | Link

    And I just do not buy the fight or flight argument that he chose "flight." Watch the video. He actually stops and gets out of his vehicle to further confront the protesters after driving a half block away.

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  17. Comment by bikeninja October 23, 2018 @ 5:06 pm | Link

    These guys seem to totally have their heads in the sand with regard to in any of the reasons that we must reduce auto traffic ,including resource depletion and climate change. To quote a bumper sticker I had back when I drove a car , " There are no jobs on a dead planet."

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  18. Comment by 9watts October 23, 2018 @ 5:03 pm | Link

    "When bicyclists start following the rules..."

    Your parameters are showing.

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  19. Comment by Pat Lowell October 23, 2018 @ 4:56 pm | Link

    I ride my bike to/from downtown every day and find scooter rides to be a scourge. Most have no idea how to behave in traffic, nor do they respect peds when they're (frequently) riding on the sidewalk. I've had more close calls with scooters since the pilot started than I have with cars over the past year of daily riding.

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  20. Comment by 9watts October 23, 2018 @ 4:55 pm | Link

    "not enough people are cycling"

    Hopelessly static analysis. Not that different from PBOT.

    We are talking about infrastructure here, changes that I would hope would last decades.

    Hello? Climate Change?

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  21. Comment by q October 23, 2018 @ 4:51 pm | Link

    There actually was a case a couple years ago where a Portland business decided it was appropriate to run people over, and did. The Portland Spirit was unhappy that it was blocked from moving forward by a crowd in hundreds of boats watching the Red Bull Flugtag event in the Willamette downtown. So the captain gave a 5-honk warning and plowed through dozens of boats. The Coast Guard ruled he was out of line. The basic ruling was, "Yes, the boats shouldn't have been there, but the law still requires above all that a captain avoid collisions. Honking your horn doesn't give you the right to mow people down."

    The crazy thing was that he felt that since he gave the warning, he truly believed he had a right to proceed--and DID--no matter that he could have killed people. This was the captain, not the company head, but as I recall the company defended his decision, at least at first.

    So I don't mind seeing criticism of people advocating such behavior, even if they're "joking".

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  22. Comment by Clive Bellue October 23, 2018 @ 4:50 pm | Link

    Stop acting so "holier than thou" while picking on two people who happen to own small businesses. Do you think that you might be able to get a mob and harass these poor guy's because they said something flippant and you have found where they do business?
    In the last week I've had to twice jump out of the way of bicyclists who thought that they owned the sidewalk and forced me to yield to them. How many bicyclists still believe that they have the right of way over pedestrians? Or is it that they just don't give a damn?
    When bicyclists start following the rules and laws then you may have room to complain, until then get yourself familiarized with the Oregon Driving Law's.
    I think that I'll have a heart attack the next time I see a bicycle stop at a traffic sign.

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  23. Comment by 9watts October 23, 2018 @ 4:36 pm | Link

    I rest my case.

    Haulin Colin, eh?
    I've long admired pictures of his trailers but have never actually stood next to one.

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  24. Comment by Aron Kerr October 23, 2018 @ 4:20 pm | Link

    Although it is clearly wrong to physically harm anyone I think the statement that there is a contract between pedestrians and drivers kind of goes out the window when both parties act illegally. If the pedestrians are protestors blocking a roadway they are obligated to move to allow crosstraffic. I don't think they should be run over but they should certainly be ticketed. See ORS 814.070 or reference a story on your own site. https://bikeportland.org/2014/12/14/police-ticket-dont-shoot-protestor-run-passing-driver-116412.

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  25. Comment by Stephen Keller October 23, 2018 @ 4:17 pm | Link

    To be private speech, the speech must not be made public. Posts on Facebook are not private. Email may be private, depending on distribution and service provider rules.

    John Liu
    What are the guidelines for individuals to express their (admittedly stupid) views without being made a public target here on BP?

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