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  1. Comment by q April 24, 2019 @ 9:44 pm | Link

    Why, because they drive too safely?

    https://aaafoundation.org/rates-motor-vehicle-crashes-injuries-deaths-relation-driver-age-united-states-2014-2015/

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  2. Comment by Jeff S(egundo) April 24, 2019 @ 9:31 pm | Link

    This is a ridiculously overbuilt street, circa 1950’s auto-centric transport. 3 motor vehicle lanes are plenty. Bravo, PBOT!

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  3. Comment by TJ April 24, 2019 @ 8:44 pm | Link

    Please clarify. That's either ageist and insulting or am I misunderstanding you.

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  4. Comment by 9watts April 24, 2019 @ 8:37 pm | Link

    Isn't this about the RQ expansion and the (fake) arguments ODOT keeps marshaling in support of it?

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  5. Comment by 9watts April 24, 2019 @ 8:32 pm | Link

    You're a funny one.

    What I do, or how much freeways benefit you or me has nothing whatsoever to do with environmental justice, which is what my post was about.

    Having said that, personal consumption habits are a topic I'm always ready to discuss.

    "Yep, you haven’t benefitted from a freeway."

    Freeways are a thing. We probably all use them directly or indirectly. But our world, not to mention the air quality for the students at this school, would be much better if we didn't have them, or automobility which necessitates them.

    "What about an airplane?"

    Yes? Airplanes are also a thing. I sat in them a lot as a child. Now not so much.

    "Do you compost?"

    You're really reaching here. Of course I do. Doesn't everyone?

    "Do you support big industry with the bike components on your ride?"

    No. City bikes, Craigslist, dumpsters.

    "Grow your own food?"

    Yes, some of it.

    "What about your water? Do you ration it?"

    Couple of gallons per day. I am pretty sure I have you beat.

    "This silly argument thread is laughable."

    Your contributions have been amusing. But at least I engaged you.

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  6. Comment by Doug Hecker April 24, 2019 @ 8:11 pm | Link

    9watts

    Middle of the Road Guy Who puts a school next to a highway?Recommended 3

    Probably the same people who for generations put highways* through neighborhoods inhabited by nonwhite people.* not to mention hazardous industry, garbage dumps, refineries, incinerators, power plants, etcRecommended 2

    Yep, you haven’t benefitted from a freeway. What about an airplane? Do you compost? Do you support big industry with the bike components on your ride? Grow your own food? What about your water? Do you ration it? This silly argument thread is laughable.

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  7. Comment by Doug Hecker April 24, 2019 @ 8:08 pm | Link

    Aaron Brown
    the school was there first.Recommended 1

    I bet they’ve never used I-5 for field trips or to bus kids around from other neighbors like they used to. I bet the teachers don’t use it when they commute from Vancouver. The deliveries they receive probably come from MLK rather than I5.

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  8. Comment by Dan A April 24, 2019 @ 8:08 pm | Link

    Cool moniker bro!

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  9. Comment by Doug Hecker April 24, 2019 @ 8:03 pm | Link

    Bike Guy

    Doug Hecker

    bikeninja Can’t we just declare the trial period for cars and trucks over. We gave the scooters a few months and eventually went ahead. but we have given happy motoring 100 years with disastrous results. People die by the thousands, the land has been covered by millions of square miles of impervious oil covered gravel and the very future of the earth and all the species that live on it are in peril. Lets call it already, it was a failed experiment, lets send these fiendish machines back where they came from and give our children a chance.Recommended 4

    I don’t think you have the time, energy, or money for that to happen. But it sounds cool and people keep saying it on this forum so what’s one more kick of the cliche can?Recommended 12

    Not that your comment adds anything of substance. Do you really want to defend the status quo? (Go ahead and try.)Recommended 1

    There is this place called reality and another called a pipedream. The pipedream in this scenario is quite easily recognized. Bikeninja wanted the likes that are associated with relating what gets said on this blog quite frequently, to the point where fatigue has set in and just becomes annoying. Of course, BN is free to do so, but I am also free to point out that realistically, that isn’t going to happen. So what are we left with? Reason. To think cars will disappear is not reasonable at this point. That being said, it’s cool to get some freebie likes be repeating cliches, but that isn’t going to save anybody’s life.

    I’ll defend anything worth defending. Cliches aren’t one of them.

    Did you have anything to add other than defending the status quo? Liking cliches?

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  10. Comment by Jonathan Maus (Publisher/Editor) April 24, 2019 @ 7:09 pm | Link

    My pleasure!

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  11. Comment by resdar April 24, 2019 @ 6:33 pm | Link

    Some attention on 24th is good. Traffic gets busy there. 24th and 25th are often recommended by driving apps for routes between Hwy 26 and I-5 north, via Cornell, Vaughn, and 405 when freeway traffic's super bad. Modifying 24th and 25th so driving apps don't prioritize it may redistribute a fair amount of late-for-work commuters following Waze directions to more appropriate routes.

    It feels like these projects are picking around the edges. It would be nice to see serious improvement dig into the middle of the NW area. Getting into the south end of NW is kind of awkward, for example. The Everett treatment has made leaving lower NW really easy, and I've noticed that a single car lane has been more than adequate. Traffic volumes on Glisan are significantly lower than on Everett. Imagine Glisan, Everett-ized, with proper bike facilities going up the hill through lower NW. I for one would use the heck out of it.

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  12. Comment by ODOT Hater April 24, 2019 @ 6:33 pm | Link

    Thanks for taking a break from your anti odot invective to cover something we care about

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  13. Comment by Edward April 24, 2019 @ 6:14 pm | Link

    I'm tired of seeing an endless array of over-produced over-engineered plans from PBOT that are all about "how we can spend money we don't have to pour concrete." That doesn't get us a bike network. Endless process and endless planning means there's only ever funding for what seems to be about 5%-10% of the plans we see, always based on way more concrete than we need.
    I'd rather see a bike network built NOW, using what we've got. Is Better Naito perfect? Nope, but it's out there and people are using it right now. PBOT has plastic jersey barricades, bollards, and other TCD's like rubber barrels full of water galore. Set them up and give us some protected bike lanes and protected pedestrian crossings now. Not in 3 to 30 years.
    Every one of these designs with a concrete "refuge" or other type of "bulb out" transforms a $10,000 stripe and relabel project into a $70,000 - $250,000 budget eating debacle. And by the time we finally get it in 5-10 years, we're getting an antiquated system.
    I wish PBOT would quit wasting our time, get real, and show us what can we afford to build now. I'd rather have a usable bike network as soon as possible. Can we at least set up some orange cones on sand-bags, while they take their pretty project proposals to enter at the planners conference?
    Temporarily set up as much as they can now. Quit the concrete crap. Nothing proves concept like letting us use it.

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  14. Comment by Hello, Kitty April 24, 2019 @ 5:24 pm | Link

    You're obviously referring to the RQ expansion, but even without that, this is not a good place for children to be in school. The problem is not ODOT "playing games", or even ODOT at all.

    The problem is that we still allow unfiltered diesel engines in this state.

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  15. Comment by Hello, Kitty April 24, 2019 @ 4:24 pm | Link

    I have to agree -- the benefit seems so much higher than the cost. If we can't do at least this much, then further talk about VZ is rather pointless.

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  16. Comment by Q April 24, 2019 @ 4:04 pm | Link

    Although in practice - and I use lanes like this daily, passing dozens of bus stops - the majority of the time there is no bus there. When there is a bus there the people exiting the bus are rarely crossing the bike lane when I'm at the crossing point. When they are there, it requires a minor slow down. I probably have to come to a complete stop - typically for a person with impaired mobility - around five times a year. I do not consider these factors to be a problem with the design.

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  17. Comment by Ted Buehler April 24, 2019 @ 3:57 pm | Link

    Just heard that PBOT Staff Art Pierce, Catherine Ciarlo and Dylan Riveria will be at the memorial.

    Also, they made emergency permanent modifications to the intersection this morning to improve safety
    * curb bulbouts
    * "Leading Pedestrian Interval" for signal, so people walking start crossing ahead of the green light.
    * changeable message sign stating that someone was killed here, please drive carefully (temporary)

    Thanks much to PBOT for a quick response to this tragedy.
    Ted Buehler

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  18. Comment by todd boulanger April 24, 2019 @ 3:53 pm | Link

    The Scanner reported (26 July 2018):
    And the past has not always been kind to Harriet Tubman Middle School. Its opening in 1982 represented a monumental win against institutional racism within the school system.

    At that time, African American students were being bused from their North and Northeast neighborhoods to attend some 32 predominantly White schools around the metropolitan area, as part of PPS’s integration practice implemented during the 1960s.

    “Student outdoor activities be limited at Harriet Tubman Middle School, especially during high traffic periods,” states the first of a five Key Recommendations in the report.

    “It will be interesting to see if there will be any final decisions to do monitoring at other schools,” John Burnham, interim senior director of environmental health and safety at PPS, told The Skanner. “But that hasn’t been pursued, except simply talked about. There’s no plans right now.”

    Burnham added that there are thousands of schools across the country that are in similar situations, but he’s hoping PSU’s report will ignite discussions within other districts about testing their own air quality.

    Where Tubman is concerned, PPS is spending $12.5 million to outfit the middle school against the air quality, which includes an HVAC system with multiple layers of filtration to cut down on pollutants.

    “I can almost guarantee you that there is no other school in the country that has a system like this,” said Steve Simonson, senior project manager at PPS. “It’s probably going to be some of the cleanest air in the city of Portland.”

    https://www.theskanner.com/news/northwest/27213-overcoming-hurdles-tubman-middle-school-reopens-aug-27

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  19. Comment by Joseph Knecht April 24, 2019 @ 3:40 pm | Link

    Thank you Jonathan for this article.
    On tenth Avenue, the tracks by the former Galleria building are especially dangerous as some go straight and others curve. How about if 9th Avenue and the NW park blocks become a bike only street? To start with , all the way from the Broadway bridge to PSU?

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  20. Comment by bikeninja April 24, 2019 @ 3:33 pm | Link

    Awesome, and to think that this amazing place was almost turned in to crackerbox apartments and fryhuts. Makes me think there is still hope for humanity yet.

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  21. Comment by John Lascurettes April 24, 2019 @ 3:27 pm | Link

    I'm just happy that, in order to make those improvements at 15th & Johnson, that they'll have to rip out those ridiculously exposed rails still embedded in the asphalt.

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  22. Comment by Adam April 24, 2019 @ 3:12 pm | Link

    Wth the RIDICULOUS amounts of vehicle traffic now on the NW Raleigh BIKE STREET since New Seasons opened and they stuck a freaking TRAFFIC LIGHT at 21st, meaning the car traffic now has unimpeded access west to Chapman Elementary, this two-way cycleway on Savier should have happened THREE YEARS AGO.

    Seriously, what the hell.

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  23. Comment by Johnny Bye Carter April 24, 2019 @ 3:10 pm | Link

    That's also what I thought but it's just that the picture isn't very good. There's a platform next to the bike lane that is wide enough that an approaching cyclist can see through it at all the passengers boarding and exiting the bus to the left of the platform.

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  24. Comment by soren April 24, 2019 @ 3:04 pm | Link

    What's more important? The lives and future well-being of people walking or a 5 second delay.

    I also believe this is exactly the kind of "disruption" the city and PBOT committed to in the Vision Zero plan, comprehensive plan, and climate action plan. And instead of improving one intersection in a reactive manner PBOT should commit to rapidly deploying this inexpensive but effective safety improvement to all high-collision-risk intersections.

    According to a New York City DOT spokesperson, the average cost to reconfigure a crosswalk for an LPI is $1,200. They don’t require any trench digging, concrete pouring, or lane closures. Sometimes new push buttons and controllers are needed; often engineers simply study local traffic patterns and reprogram existing lights.

    For such a small cost, the results can be transformative: One paper published by the Transportation Research Board found LPIs can reduce pedestrian-vehicle collisions by as much as 60 percent. In San Francisco, the intersection with the highest rate of pedestrian injuries from left-turn vehicle crashes saw those incidents drop to zero after an LPI was installed.

    https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2018/01/the-incredibly-cheap-street-fix-that-saves-lives/551498/

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  25. Comment by Ryan April 24, 2019 @ 2:55 pm | Link

    Recently had a "Facebook debate" (as constructive as those are) with a friend who complained that cyclists are always doing illegal things like "riding on the fog line" even when they have a bike lane. I informed him of the "avoiding hazardous conditions" caveat in the law, and reminded that it's not up to drivers to decide if the conditions are safe enough to cycle through. I really think one of the main reasons there's so much vitriol towards cyclists is that many (most?) drivers don't understand the law as it pertains to cyclists*. Combined with the incorrect assumption that drivers pay the entirety of road costs, this makes them view all cyclists as entitled law-breakers that don't belong on the roads.

    *sadly, most probably don't understand the law as it pertains to cars either 🙁

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