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Updated: Arrest made in NE Portland hit-and-run

Posted by on May 10th, 2008 at 5:14 am

[Updated: 8:31am, 2:13pm, Monday 10:13am) – Please see end of story for updates.]

Jeremy Jordan was arrested
Saturday afternoon.
(PPB booking photo)

The Portland Police Bureau’s Major Crash Team was called to the scene of a serious injury hit-and-run that occurred at 2:44 am this morning (Saturday, 5/10) at the 6900 block of NE Fremont St. (just north of Sandy Blvd).

According to the PPB, officers have determined that 30 year-old Jeremy Jordan entered a nearby Safeway to buy some beer. When employees refused, he reportedly attempted to steal the beer.

Jordon then ran to his car and began to drive out of the parking lot “at a high rate of speed”.

The PPB then reports that, “As the suspect reached the exit to Northeast Fremont and began to turn westbound, the suspect hit a 36-year-old bicyclist [who has now been identified as Eric Davidson] who was riding eastbound on Northeast Fremont Street. The suspect fled the area.”

Davidson sustained severe injuries in the collision and is currently at Emanuel Hospital.


UPDATE (Saturday, 5/10, 2:13pm): An arrest has been made. Here’s the latest information from the Police Bureau:

    Investigators from the Traffic Division Major Crash Team have arrested 30-year-old Jeremy Jordan on one count each of Assault in the Second Degree, DUII, Reckless Driving and Felony Hit and Run.

    The victim, 36-year-old, Eric Davidson was transported to Emanuel Hospital with life threatening injuries.

Sylvia McDaniel, a PR person for Legacy Hospital confirmed that Davidson is in critical condition. She would not release any further information.

UPDATE (Monday, 5/12, 10:15am):
Here’s an updated report on Eric Davidson’s condition and how he needs our help (as left in a comment by a friend):

“…as of yesterday he had not regained consciousness and has brain swelling–the main concern right now. His extensive injuries include head, back, kidney and knee. They do not know yet if there is brain or spinal damage yet, and are in a wait-and-see mode. Please send your best energy toward his recovery. He will certainly be hospitalized for many months.

A website has just be set up for information and assistance for Anna-Carin. Anyone can sign up there and we will be adding information and help-needed requests and we determine them.

Eric and Anna-Carin were in the process of adding a second bathroom themselves in order to more quickly sell their house, so at this point I can guess building assistance in finishing up the bathroom, and afterward general yardwork etc. to maintain the property for sale would be helpful (they were planning to stay local but need to move).

I’m also thinking that any professional advice on how to proceed medically, financially and legally would be gratefully appreciated. There seems to be a good knowledge base here. You are welcome to contact me through the site and I will get you to Anna-Carin.

I will be conferring with her soon to find out how to best help her. Thank you all again for your words of support.”

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183 Comments
  • Scott Mizée May 10, 2008 at 6:20 am

    so sad…
    let us know when you find out more…

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  • Jimbo May 10, 2008 at 7:28 am

    2:44 AM on a Friday night? I\’m guessing alcohol was involved one way or another.

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  • Scott Mizée May 10, 2008 at 7:39 am

    even worse news with the update. thanks for keeping us informed.

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  • Russell May 10, 2008 at 8:22 am

    I hope the cyclist gets better soon and did not sustain any permanent injuries.

    I hope Safeway had video cameras pointed out into the parking lot to obtain his license plate. Or maybe when he tried to buy beer he showed his ID.

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  • hickeymad May 10, 2008 at 8:44 am

    I hope he is hung from a telephone pole and left to rot.

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  • Joe Rowe May 10, 2008 at 8:50 am

    Is that bike victim response system working yet? This was going to be built by friends of Bret.
    I will give paypal cash today to anyone trying to get things off the ground for the bike victim. Jonathan, can you start this fund with your website? What this victim needs is cash to hire a lawyer and private PI to help the Police who \”may not have time\” to work as hard as they should on this case. If I was the victim I would want a lawyer and PI working ASAP for me and my suffering family.
    We also need to attack any reporter who dares to blame the victim here or mentions \”no helmet\”.

    pissed off and ready for teamwork.. Joe

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  • Russell May 10, 2008 at 9:42 am

    Joe – Do not forget the idiotic line of questioning, \”What was the cyclist doing on the road at 2:44 am?\” I believe cyclists should wear lights, helmets, etc., but the media jumps on the slightest \’wrong\’ done by the cyclist, while they\’ll blatantly ignore the heinous actions of the driver.

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  • Jason May 10, 2008 at 10:21 am

    I think hit-and-run penalties should be worse when a vulnerable roadway user is involved. (Thanks to Ray Thomas and the BTA for getting our foot in the legislative door with that concept!)

    Mandatory revocation of your motor vehicle license seems like an obvious consequence….

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  • Axe May 10, 2008 at 10:28 am

    That Safeway DOES have security cameras, so that\’s a good step to finding the guy.

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  • tonyt May 10, 2008 at 11:27 am

    Jason,

    I do think that when injuries are caused in the course of committing a crime (attempted theft of beer), the crime and penalties move up.

    I think it becomes aggravated assault instead of negligent. Something like that.

    a.O. can you shed some light on this?

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  • Joe May 10, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    wow Glad they caught the guy, I\’m not in
    Portland, but work grave shift so i see
    alot in Wilsonville at night, like last Sunday at 2am while on the road. Drunk
    driver passed me, reason i know is he almost t-bone me, look like a deer in the
    headlights, all to get into 7-11.

    I need to get the local law inforcement
    protecting people in this City also, its
    getting worse here. The local cops do nothing for peds/cyclist here.

    I sure hope the cyclist is ok and is able to return to riding again if he wishes, hang in there. Get Well!

    Side Note: Ive seen quite a few people coming threw on I-5 on bikes.. 🙂

    Please Share The Road and lets all get along. I Teaching my girls the law of the road, kinda hard these days!

    Be Safe All,
    Joe

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  • zilfondel May 10, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    ^ What do you mean, people are riding on I-5 on their bikes?!

    You have got to be kidding.

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  • Joe May 10, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    yes on I-5, you have to understand some spots out this way don\’t connect well..

    why would i kid?

    Thanks,
    Joe

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  • joel May 10, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    zilfondel – i-5 in spots is the only way to get from point to point – in most cases regarding getting across i-5 without going a LONG way out of your way requires using i-5 itself. its not too bad, ive done it myself multiple times (though a non-freeway route would be infinitely preferable) – its legal (and *relatively* safe – the shoulder is really quite wide) to ride on i-5 through most of its length in oregon.

    regarding this hit-and-run, its awesome to see this guy picked up so quickly – hopefully he gets some serious penalty for it – and heres hoping the victim gets out of critical condition soon, and on the road to healing and recovery.

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  • Lynne May 10, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Yes. I-5. To cross the Willamette River on the Boone Bridge. I\’ve done it several times. It is loud, and the shoulder is full of junk, but I\’ve ridden in scarier places. Heading north, you can hop off before the off-ramp, right where the guardrail ends and the shrubbery stops.

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  • Russell May 10, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    I\’m going to have to check the statutes here in a bit, but Second Degree Assault seems kind of light for life-threatening injuries. Especially in cases where someone is intoxicated, hit-and-runs, or intentionally using a vehicle as a weapon, the penalties should be higher.

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  • Graham May 10, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    Is there a typo in the suspect\’s name? \”Jeremy Jordon\” doesn\’t yield many hits, but \”Jeremy Jordan\” (with an \”a\” on the end) does.

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  • MAF May 10, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Assault 2 (ORS 163.175) is usually charged whenever an intoxicated person uses a vehicle to cause what the law describes as \”serious physical injury.\” The crime only requires the District Attorney show that the person was acting recklessly, instead of intentionally. In this scenario, it is likely that the idiot who left the Safeway parking lot had no intent to hit the cyclist. It is more likely he was driving in a reckless manner that resulted in the injury. Assault 2 is a \”Measure 11\” offense, and would bring a possible 70 month prison term.

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  • Robin May 10, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    I\’ve noticed a lot more people driving poorly in the evening. If I super far away from home and it\’s late (after beer:30) I\’ve taken to staying at friends houses. I just start thinking about how many ghost bikes and collision sites I have to pass on the way home. Hopefully this is the last I hear about something like this for a while.

    I wish Eric a speedy recovery.

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  • Joe May 10, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    Please do Note: If your on I-5 and I say if
    be super careful on the off ramp area. people just drive way over thier skillsets
    and dont yeild correcly EVER!!

    People should feel safe on the roads regardless of the time.

    Harsher laws are needed for all hit and runs!! ALL.. car vs car, but car vs human. gee give us a break please.

    Joe

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  • hickeymad May 10, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Where did the idea that the hit and run occurred on or near I-5 come from?
    It occurred on 69th and Freemont; 3 blocks from my house. See the link that Johanathon provided for the map of the spot.

    My wife heard the sirens last night while feeding our infant. We talked about the accident this morning; I ride that way every day to and from work. Good thing I\’m not a late-night rider; it could have been me…

    I would like to point out, again, that this area of town is very dangerous for cyclists. The intersection at 72nd and Freemont as well as the five blocks of Freemont from 67th to 72nd are especially bad. This is in part due to very poor road design, lack of proper signage (for pedestrians and cyclists especially, but have you ever had to turn left off of sandy onto 72nd while heading east in a car?). If ever in the area; try crossing the street at the pedestrian walk signal from Freemont at 72nd south across Sandy Blvd. Even with the walk signal it is dangerous; you have all of 3 seconds before cars begin to bear down on you. This is by far the worst intersection I\’ve encountered in the City limits.

    I doubt that any road design changes would have prevented this particular felony. The perp sounds like the type of lowlife we often see squealing their tires at the light on 72nd and Sandy Ave. However, I am sure that this area will see and has seen plenty of accidents that could have been prevented with intelligent roadway design that allows all users to move from point A to B in safety.

    My wife and I have been calling the City about these problems repeatedly. We are always told the same thing by the City. It seems that the City does not have the funds for the \”outlying areas\” such as these. It is really too bad that Sam\’s \”Safe and Sound Streets\” initiative is practically dead. Our city could use the cash for projects such as these.

    Does anybody know how to get access to traffic accident statistics for this particular area? This information would be very useful for helping make the case to the City to improve the area…

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  • Robert Dobbs May 10, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Correction: His last name is Jordan, not Jordon:

    http://www.mcso.us/PAID/BookingDetail.aspx?ID=uzRB1psG8TtDTVj3KC2s7Q==

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  • Robert Dobbs May 10, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    [This comment has been deleted. It contained a link to the website of the business of someone with the same name as the suspect in this case. — Jonathan Maus, Editor]

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  • Matt Picio May 10, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    hickeymad (#20) – no one got that idea. \”Joe\” changed the topic of the posts to that in post #11 when he noted that people ride on the I-5 shoulder in WIlsonville.

    I\’ve taken that route a few times, too – the Boone bridge is loud, and the the shoulder is full of crap, but it\’s only one mile from the Wilsonville ramp to the Butteville ramp, and it\’s a helluva lot more level than the three alternates: Oregon City, Newburg, and the Canby Ferry.

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  • A Jordan May 10, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    Hey all, but more specifically, Robert Dubbs… I\’m an avid commuter cyclist in Boulder, CO by way of Portland and the perp is my cousin, not proud, but he is not a \”mortgage weasel\” (not even the same guy)… he is a human making awful choices and hopefully able to learn from them in the lessons we are all here to learn. Very unfortunate… very.
    My warmest wishes to both humans and their families. I\’m happy Jeremy\’s daughter isn\’t old enough to know what\’s going on and I\’m sure that we are all getting what\’s coming to us, Jeremy included, we can do our part to lesson our impact on the world and be grateful for every moment we are able to pedal our bikes and reflect on our thoughts and actions in this world. I appreciate this website very much, your opinions and Portland beyond my ability to articulate.

    Best.

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  • hickeymad May 11, 2008 at 6:33 am

    oops, my bad…

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  • Michael May 11, 2008 at 6:52 am

    There are some interesting, and some ugly comments at the Portland Tribune site: http://portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=121043081754647900

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  • Vance May 11, 2008 at 8:16 am

    Does anyone know if Mr. Davidson has a family? I mean, was this a single person, or is there a partner and some chillins\’ at home? I\’m horribly out of the loop on the volunteer front. Stuff like this happens and there is still trash to be taken out, my poor metaphor for, \”Life goes on.\”. If there are those who are dependent upon Mr. Davidson, where would a penniless weirdo like me go to offer up my labor? Perhaps if the, \”cycling community\”, were to come together and offer up some sort of aid to folks like Mr. Davidson the focus of these incidents could be shifted from knee-jerk judgments to the, \”cycling community\”, helps their own.

    If I could just call a telephone number, schedule my hour or two, and show up to support a fallen rider and their family, that would sure be kool. Is there a, \”center\”, yet for this sort of thing? Has the BTA got too much on their plate to field some calls? Need a volunteer organizer? I mean, what an opportunity to draw this cycling community together. If one of us, Store-brand-biker and the dedicated alike, goes down, the clear message should be that the cycling community has your back.

    Oh, and, \”Innocent until proven guilty\”, and: Turn your anger with Mr. Jordan into something positive by trying to support Mr. Davidson and his family. It may seem like no big deal to some, but 70 months in one of America\’s fine penal institutions is no walk in the park. I, for one, will rest assured that if found guilty, Mr. Jordan will be coming to deeply regret his mistake.

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  • The Other Side May 11, 2008 at 8:25 am

    First and foremost. I pray that Eric makes it, and has a full and healthy recovery. Obviously it is not his fault.

    Second.

    The accused is not a bad person. He had no intentions of hurting anybody. He is a very intelligent, loving, and caring committed father.

    I pray that the best outcome will result for the both of them.

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  • Schrauf May 11, 2008 at 9:37 am

    Oh my, #29. Yes, everyone makes mistakes, and we often cannot predict the outcome. But there is something to be said for not putting yourself in a situation where an accident like this is extremely likely. A bad vs. good person is a silly debate.

    The perpetrator would maybe start to get a little sympathy or understanding by apologizing, admitting fault, and presenting a long list of what he intends to do to help both the victim, and the community in general, for what he has caused.

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  • PoPo May 11, 2008 at 10:14 am

    tonyt

    Good questions.
    Forgive me for jumping in!

    You asked about what happens when an injury occurs while committing a crime, particularly related to the crime of THEFT. Injuries are usually associated with the use of physical force, and when physical force or the threat of physical force is used in the process of committing the crime of THEFT, that can turn the crime into a ROBBERY.

    This is the difference between stealing a bicycle from someone\’s front porch in the middle of the night and pushing someone off of their bike and taking it, or pickpocketing someone\’s wallet from a purse vs. demanding the wallet at gunpoint.

    There are different degrees of ROBBERY that are distinguished by various factors such as the type of weapon, if any, used, the number of people involved, or the severity of injury caused. (I\’ve copied the text of the statutes below.) All robberies are felonies in Oregon.

    The crime of ASSAULT also has different levels depending on weapons used, the mental state of the suspect (intentional, reckless, negligent, etc.), the severity of the injury caused, the number of suspects working together and the status of the victim.

    The ASSAULT statute is too long to copy in this comment, but here is a link (you will have to scroll down to where they start at ORS 163.160):

    http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/163.html

    Often in pretty serious cases like this one, a Multnomah County Deputy District Attorney, who will ultimately be the one prosecuting the crimes, comes to the scene to work directly with the officers as they investigate and sort through evidence.

    Sometimes there is good evidence and it is pretty clear pretty quickly what happened. This allows officers and the DDA to figure out what crimes they would like to charge pretty fast. And if the evidence leads quickly to a suspect, arrests can be made and charges issued quite quickly. (That appears to be what happened today.) Though things can change later, such as severity of injuries of the victim, or additional evidence might be discovered, leading to additional charges (as what recently happened regarding the Clinton Street incident last summer) or charges being dropped.

    There is no overarching rule that if injuries are inflicted while committing a crime that it increases the penalty, however, that is generally the way some criminal statutes are written, and at the very least, an injury to the victim usually means that you can at least add HARASSMENT or some ASSAULT charge to the list.

    164.395 Robbery in the third degree. (1) A person commits the crime of robbery in the third degree if in the course of committing or attempting to commit theft or unauthorized use of a vehicle as defined in ORS 164.135 the person uses or threatens the immediate use of physical force upon another person with the intent of:

    (a) Preventing or overcoming resistance to the taking of the property or to retention thereof immediately after the taking; or

    (b) Compelling the owner of such property or another person to deliver the property or to engage in other conduct which might aid in the commission of the theft or unauthorized use of a vehicle.

    (2) Robbery in the third degree is a Class C felony. [1971 c.743 §148; 2003 c.357 §1]

    164.405 Robbery in the second degree. (1) A person commits the crime of robbery in the second degree if the person violates ORS 164.395 and the person:

    (a) Represents by word or conduct that the person is armed with what purports to be a dangerous or deadly weapon; or

    (b) Is aided by another person actually present.

    (2) Robbery in the second degree is a Class B felony. [1971 c.743 §149]

    164.415 Robbery in the first degree. (1) A person commits the crime of robbery in the first degree if the person violates ORS 164.395 and the person:

    (a) Is armed with a deadly weapon;

    (b) Uses or attempts to use a dangerous weapon; or

    (c) Causes or attempts to cause serious physical injury to any person.

    (2) Robbery in the first degree is a Class A felony. [1971 c.743 §150; 2007 c.71 §51]

    Robbery Link (they begin at ORS 164.395):
    http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/164.html

    Assault Link (they begin at ORS163.160):
    http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/163.html

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  • Donna May 11, 2008 at 10:40 am

    With all due respect, Other Side, when you make the choice to get behind the wheel of a car under the influence of drugs and alcohol, your \”intentions\” become completely irrelevant.

    Furthermore, when you hit another human being and flee the scene without even so much a call to 911, your \”intentions\” change by default. If you don\’t make the call, you certainly intend harm towards them.

    The irony is if this man hadn\’t been drinking and stayed at the scene, the worst thing that might have happened to him would be a traffic ticket and maybe an increase in his car insurance – even if Eric Davidson does not survive. When motorists drive drunk and flee the scene, they lose the special protections from the consequences of their actions that the law affords them. At least there are a few situations that force them to face justice for their choices…

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  • Sarah O May 11, 2008 at 10:43 am

    To \”The Other Side\” –

    I understand not wanting to make violent and upsetting judgements in a case like this and to try and see the situation with some empathy, but the fact is that this guy was out in the middle of the night, DRUNK, trying to get more beer to STAY drunk, and committed the first gigantic mistake trying to go against the law by committing theft. If he\’d just gone home at a reasonable hour, OR if he\’d listened to the Safeway clerks and just left without arguing or stealing beer, OR if he\’d even stolen the beer and perhaps looked to the left or the right while fleeing the parking lot – THEN maybe we\’d have some empathy for this loser. But nothing this guy did gives us any right to feel bad for him. Imagine if your dearest love was on the bike that night. It could have been me, it could have been any number of my friends or family. What if it was this guy\’s own daughter? It was someone\’s child , someone\’s loved one who got hit. Not everyone drunk-drives and hurts or kills someone, but anyone could have been in this guy\’s path and injured.

    No sympathy for this fool. Rot in jail.

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  • Axe May 11, 2008 at 10:54 am

    Here here.

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  • Robert Dobbs May 11, 2008 at 10:59 am

    No sympathy.

    This guy certainly crippled and may very well have killed another person before its all over, just to support his self-centered gluttony and greed. Stealing beer from a Safeway at 2:30 AM because they wouldn\’t sell it to your drunk asz? What an a..hole!

    I hope they take his daughter and several years of his life. This man isn\’t fit to raise a puppy much less another human.

    Write the DA. Write the judge. It\’s Game Over for Mr. Jordan.

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  • wsbob May 11, 2008 at 11:04 am

    \”He is a very intelligent, loving, and caring committed father.\” The Other Side

    Maybe you\’re in a better position than we are to get this person to consider how a person that tries to steal….beer…not food for his family….runs over another person with his car (why???) is a very intelligent, loving, and caring committed father. Somebody is fooling somebody here.

    Eric Davidson, the cyclist, may be messed up for the rest of his life thanks to this guy out on a beer run.

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  • Ekhart Tolle May 11, 2008 at 11:42 am

    The Other Side isn\’t excusing Jeremy\’s actions.

    The greatest obstacle is to have compassion for both parties and that\’s what is needed. On a deeper level, people are inherently good. All humans are capable and do hurt other humans. No person posting on this is immune to this observation.
    As opposed to judging something easy to judge look at your own actions. Death and bodily injury are very frightening and when something like this happens it can bring up a lot of fear/ anger.
    No one, not even Jeremy, will say he doesn\’t deserve justice. The truth is that at the heart of everything, we are all innocent. It\’s hard to see that in ourselves and so we condemn others. Jeremy deserves compassion, and that isn\’t to say that discipline should not be in effect.

    If we show ourselves compassion and forgive ourselves for what ultimately brings us all to where we are. This all serves a purpose and while it can be judged and condemned, we are all too human to see what the affects of this will have on the future or the good that will happen as a result.

    There is far more to this situation than a drunk driver and a near death cyclist.

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  • tonyt May 11, 2008 at 11:49 am

    Other Side,

    Intelligent, loving, and caring IS what intelligent, loving, and caring DOES.

    What someone may be deep inside is frankly beside the point. It is what one does out in the world that matters.

    Keep in mind also, that those responsible for the car wrecks that kill 44,000 people every year, almost without exception did not \”intend\” to hurt anyone.

    But they did.

    Excessive drinking. Excessive speed. Carelessness. Self-centeredness. A disregard for public safety in public space. Cars as expression for prowess.

    They all kill.

    My heart goes out to the families of both parties. And deep in my heart I suppose I do hope that Jeremy Jordan is able to make the best of a bad situation as he tries to atone for what he\’s done.

    But regardless of whether ANYONE is a \”good\” person, or intelligent (how that elevates someone\’s status is a mystery to me), this is a situation where cold, impartial justice needs to come down.

    Perhaps watching intelligent, loving, and caring Jeremy Jordan go to jail and miss watching his daughter in her earliest years might impact another intelligent, loving, and caring person and cause them to take a deep breath and reconsider their very bad choice BEFORE they hurt someone.

    Part of justice is setting an example for others. That might be unfortunate for Jeremy but he made his choices.

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  • Everyone Makes Mistakes May 11, 2008 at 11:53 am

    I happen to know Jeremy personally, and it completely blows me away to hear this happened. Of course I worry for Davidson, and hope he recovers. But I do also wish to vouch for Jeremy. He truly is a good person. He\’s just made some serious mistakes in his life… we all do. I\’m certain he will see the appropriate consequences for his actions, and I hope it\’s enough to instill motivation for change on his part. As terrible as this all is, and as much as I wish this turned out differently, please try to remember you\’re not perfect either. I\’m sure everyone reading this has had at least one time where he or she did something stupid, while drunk or not. Jeremy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and that seriously complicated things. You may have been more fortunate – good for you. But just remember: Everyone makes mistakes.

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  • tonyt May 11, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Excuse me Everyone Makes Mistakes,

    Eric Davidson was the one in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Jeremy was exactly where he wanted to be, doing exactly what he wanted to do.

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  • Michael May 11, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    The perpetrator was \”in the wrong place at the wrong time\” !!!

    WTF?? Do you hear yourself? The PLACE and the TIME were the source of this crime?

    This kind of excuse is given by criminals as a testament of their lack of a conscience or normal social responsibility.

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  • Robert Dobbs May 11, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    You know, \”Everyone Makes Mistakes\”, you\’re right.

    Why just last weekend, while I was high on meth I clipped a kid on a skatebord while I was fleeing the 7-11 after stealing some cigarettes. I know it was wrong, but I sure am glad I didn\’t get caught like your pal Jeremy there!

    I mean, c\’mon, let yea without sin cast the first stone. Amiright?

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  • Robert Dobbs May 11, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    Ekhart Tolle –

    \”The truth is that at the heart of everything, we are all innocent.\”

    Save it for the choir.

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  • tonyt May 11, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    Michael,

    Apparently you are not aware of the newest time/space continuum theory of criminality.

    You see, what actually happens is that people are just innocently walking along and they fall victim to a fault in the 4th dimension of the victim/perpetrator dichotomy whereby they are carried along like a leaf in the wind to commit crimes.

    Yes, obviously this is NO joking matter. I get that. But in the face of such tortured logic as offered by \”Everyone Makes Mistakes,\” my eyes roll high in my head and I am at a loss as to how to respond to such preposterous claims. Fantastical, as in fantasy, comes to mind.

    EMM, you may know Jeremy as a nice guy, but I\’m quite sure that most people in jail right now could provide us with someone who would vouch for their \”niceness.\”

    Please, spare us the attempts to salvage Jeremy\’s reputation.

    Someone is in the hospital with a broken body.

    Guess who has our sympathies?

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  • wsbob May 11, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    Because drunk driver Jeremy Jordan has demonstrated that he\’s not prepared to conduct himself in a way that will not cause undue harm to others, society now has to take measures to protect people from him. Aside from the care and attention his victim, cyclist Eric Davidson is going to need to survive and recover as well as possible from his injuries, all else is secondary.

    Those of you that think it\’s called for, offer drunk driver Jeremy Jordan all the compassion you believe he deserves, but please do not allow this to draw away from the more important concerns at hand.

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  • a.O May 11, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    I am completely disgusted by people attempting to defend the moral character of someone who left another human being for dead. Jeremy Jordan is a piece of sh*t who is being judged by his *ACTIONS* and who deserves to rot in prison before he rots in hell. Those of you apologizing for him are pathetic fools.

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  • Joe May 11, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    yep a.O.

    \” of the day, as i ride down a narrow road
    I feel the engry,to knock me off the road \”

    all i want to do is ride down the road!

    Joe

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  • Bug Eater May 11, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    While I agree that of course Mr Jordan didn\’t intend to hurt someone, he did, and this tragedy could have been averted if he had the basic respect for other human beings to not drive drunk, not drive when enraged, and if heaven forbid an accident does occur to do everything in your power to help those you have hurt.

    This is the kind of nightmare scenario that we all fear the most, and it\’s the type of accident that keeps those who are considering biking from giving it a try. As responsible bikers, we all wear our helmets, flash our lights, wear highly visible clothes, and meticulously maintain our bikes to give us every possible advantage to be safe on the road…but in an instant some random drunk can smear us all over the pavement. It\’s just not right and Jeremy Jordan deserves every but of punishment that awaits him, and much much more.

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  • Marc May 11, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    jeremy jordan has problems. he may come off as a caring, loving and intelligent person with all the best intentions. as reported i find it incredible difficult that this was a temporary lapse in judgment. at 30 years someone as described above should be well past drinking enough to fly off the handle like he did. no i am afraid that mr jordan has simply fooled a few people in his life into thinking he is some kind of contributing member of society.

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  • Robin May 11, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    My main problem with feeling bad for Mr. Jordan is the hit and RUN charge. It would have been one thing to hit the man and stay to make sure someone can get help because they have been injured because of your actions. It is a different thing entirely to leave the scene.
    If he turned himself in that would help my opinion of him. If he intended on not being caught I can\’t feel very bad for him. He could have saved himself some criminal charges if he had stayed.

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  • Robert Dobbs May 11, 2008 at 7:01 pm

    @Robin

    \”He could have saved himself some criminal charges if he had stayed.\”

    Namely one Class C Felony. Not exactly chump change.

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  • Keith May 11, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    50 & 51
    He wasn\’t capable of sticking around. You can\’t expect someone with impaired judgment to reap havoc then have sober judgment to clean it up. If the guy has problems with the booze, then his first mistake was having the first one. For some people, 1 is too many and a thousand isn\’t enough. No matter that he is a good guy or bad guy, he set the ball in motion that will cause many people pain. Not to take anything away for Mr. Davidson. My heart goes out to him and his family for a speedy recovery.
    It\’s an unfortunate truth that our self wills will intersect someone else\’s at any given time.Sometimes something good will happen and sometimes not. It\’s also sobering to know that 100% of us will pass on, but not all of us from old age.
    If I was responsible for this horrible tragedy, I just don\’t know how I could face my little six year old stoker girl.
    I think I am going to go give her a hug right now.

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  • Axe May 11, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    According to KOIN, Davidson\’s condition has been upgraded to \”serious\”.

    http://tinyurl.com/5cvusu

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  • Robin May 12, 2008 at 4:41 am

    I understand how poorly someone can act when they have an addiction. That\’s why I specified him also taking action after he sobered up.
    I/we DON\’T know what he was thinking (or what happened) at the time or after the fact.
    I pray Mr. Davidson fully recovers and that Mr. Jordan never drinks again.

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  • Jim F May 12, 2008 at 6:58 am

    @ Robert Dobbs:

    Careful. I know THAT Jeremy Jordan and he\’s not 30 years old. I know it is hard to believe that there could be two people in this world with the same name.

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  • Scott May 12, 2008 at 7:07 am

    I hope Mr. Davidson recovers and can lead a productive/happy life. I also hope that Jeremy learns his lesson. Jeremy will have this on his conscience for the rest of his life. For next 5-10 years in prison, he can spend every day thinking about what he has done, and how he can\’t be there for his daughter. After he gets out, I\’m sure he will be a bicyclist himself (Ironic) as I doubt he will ever have a license again. I hope he never drinks again either.

    I agree with everyone that the \”hit and run\” part keeps me from feeling that bad for him. However, I feel bad for the family and friends he has left behind.

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  • ChipSeal May 12, 2008 at 7:21 am

    Because I have a limited reservoir of compassion, I only have enough for Eric Davidson.

    My prayers for your health and family, Eric.

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  • Brina May 12, 2008 at 8:47 am

    Hello all, I\’m a good friend of Erik and his wife Anna-Carin. A biking friend pointed me to this blog and I\’m writing for two reasons:

    First, a quick update on his condition – as of yesterday he had not regained consciousness and has brain swelling–the main concern right now. His extensive injuries include head, back, kidney and knee. They do not know yet if there is brain or spinal damage yet, and are in a wait-and-see mode. Please send your best energy toward his recovery. He will certainly be hospitalized for many months.

    Second, thank you Vance for your kind offer to help. A website has just be set up for information and assistance for Anna-Carin at http://www.lotsahelpinghands.com/c/604593 . Anyone can sign up there and we will be adding information and help-needed requests and we determine them.

    All of Anna-Carin\’s family is in Sweden. Erik\’s mother (his father has passed) and two sisters are currently down from Seattle but understandably are as stricken as she is, and I do not know how long they are able to stay.

    Erik and Anna-Carin were in the process of adding a second bathroom themselves in order to more quickly sell their house, so at this point I can guess building assistance in finishing up the bathroom, and afterward general yardwork etc. to maintain the property for sale would be helpful (they were planning to stay local but need to move).

    I\’m also thinking that any professional advice on how to procede medically, financially and legally would be gratefully appreciated. There seems to be a good knowledge base here. You are welcome to contact me through the site and I will get you to Anna-Carin.

    I will be conferring with her soon to find out how to best help her. Thank you all again for your words of support.

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  • Robert Dobbs May 12, 2008 at 8:57 am

    Jim F

    Several people have stated that, and since I can\’t delete/edit comments – there you go.

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  • KT May 12, 2008 at 9:13 am

    I also feel compassion for only Eric.

    However, I can see the other side: Jeremy probably panicked when he realized what he did. The only thing he probably thought of doing was running away and hiding.

    That doesn\’t make it any better, of course.

    Lots of supposedly \”nice\” and \”intelligent\” people have done some really, really stupid things. Someone who is characterized as \”nice and intelligent\” by one person may be seen as \”arrogant, stupid, a_hole\” by others.

    It doesn\’t excuse his actions, not one bit. But I would like to hear his side of the story.

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  • Pete May 12, 2008 at 9:42 am

    Brina, thank you so much for this information. Please keep us posted as we continue to pray and send hope for his recovery. Our hearts are with him, his family, and his friends.

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  • Bob_M May 12, 2008 at 9:43 am

    It doen\’t matter if he can Jeremy can write the lord\’s prayer on the head of a pin. He hit and ran while stealing beer.

    Actions speak louder than words

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  • Sarah O May 12, 2008 at 9:51 am

    Did any of you bother to read the comments on this article over at the Oregonian site? Infuriating! The majority of posters seem to think Erik brought this on himself by riding on a public street at night. It starts with lines like \”A bike is a toy that belongs under an 8-year-old\’s Christmas tree\” and \”I bet he wasn\’t wearing lights or helmet\” and moves onto fixie-bashing and general \”get off OUR (drivers\’) roads\”. Don\’t read if you\’re easily angered, like me. I had to come back here to read some sense-talkers. Thank you, bike community.

    Erik, you\’ve got my best thoughts and wishes.

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  • lyle May 12, 2008 at 10:03 am

    \”Did any of you bother to read the comments on this article over at the Oregonian site? Infuriating!\”

    There\’s no point in getting worked up over it. Anybody who would make comments like \’bikes are toys that belong under a christmas tree\’ as a response to this incident is clearly in a whole world of pain from all the self-hatred they\’re experiencing.

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  • peejay May 12, 2008 at 10:10 am

    It\’s best not to read the rnatings of the ignorant on the Tribune and the O; however, it\’s sort of our responsibility to write something in those threads to counterprogram the idiocy. So, if you can hold your nose and write reasonable, clear, and fact-filled posts that appeal to peoples sense of humanity, we can at least marginalize those who would favor a drunk driving hit-and-run thief over an innocent bike-riding human.

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  • Joe May 12, 2008 at 11:53 am

    Thats why i when off on people can ride all
    times of the day/night.

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  • Joe May 12, 2008 at 11:54 am

    ooops * went * off..

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  • tonyt May 12, 2008 at 11:57 am

    True words Lyle!

    People like that are already living in their own personal h*ll. They are simply seeking people to blame for everything that they do not understand.

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  • Steve of Spokane May 12, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    I ended up here after someone posted a link from our local Craigslist Rants and Raves. Jordan made several mistakes and he will pay for them I am sure.

    1) Running out of beer. Poor planning is not a good reason to go out at 3:00 am.

    2) Getting behind the wheel drunk. Never a good idea anyway, but if you are too drunk to realize HOW drunk you are …

    3) Having Safeway refuse to sell you beer because they can see you are already toast. Should have caused an internal uh-oh moment don\’t ya think?

    4) Trying to steal it because they wouldn\’t sell it to you. Serious lapse in judgment.

    5) Raging and driving too fast. Obviously by this point completely out of his mind.

    6) Not seeing the cyclist. Probably was so mentally in a dither the last thing he might expect was someone out that late at night.

    7) Hit and run. All I can do is shake my head at this point.

    My prayers go out for Eric and his wife, I sure hope he recovers. It was slightly uplifting that his condition has improved a bit. I intend to go to the Oregonian and try to copy this into that thread too.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    I\’ve met Jeremy on multiple occasions and I am shocked to see that all of this could come from such a nice guy. It\’s a series of unfortunate and stupid decisions on his part.

    That doesn\’t excuse any of these actions and he is responsible for the fate of Erik, no matter what that fate may be.

    Lesson 1. Never mix alcohol and driving
    Lesson 2. Don\’t ride a bicycle at 2:44am

    I wonder if there wasn\’t alcohol involved on the bicycle side of the equation as well…

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  • jeff May 12, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    Jereme – \”Nice guys\” don\’t run people over, drunk, then leave. Perhaps you need to reconsider how you evaluate your friendships? You\’re a sh*tty judge of character.

    Lesson 2? STFU. One person was in the wrong here, it\’s Jeremy. I have no remorse for him.

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  • Jeremy May 12, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    I cant believe someone just wrote \”Lesson 2. Don\’t ride a bicycle at 2:44am.\” People should feel/be safe on a bike at anytime.

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  • a.O May 12, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    @ #70: Once again, I am totally disgusted at the victim blame and the character defense of such a complete human piece of garbage. STFU Jerme.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    #71

    I only question why someone is on a bike at 2:44am, I don\’t do it out of justification of Jeremy\’s crime.

    It\’s always foolish to ride a bike late at night when a lot of idiots are on the road. If you don\’t take that to heart, you may be hit by a drunk someday yourself.

    As for how I evaluate my friendships, don\’t bring that into this because you\’re pissed. I simply said \”I\’ve met Jeremy on multiple occasions and I am shocked to see that all of this could come from such a nice guy\”. Everyone is someone else while intoxicated. You can\’t penalize me for not knowing the ups and downs of a person from a few pick-up basketball games.

    There\’s a lot of anger in here and I have nothing to do with it. I think Jeremy should have to pay the piper for what he has done.

    Slow down, read and think before you respond.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    #73, never blamed the victim, read again I blamed Jeremy. I don\’t sympathize with Jeremy one bit actually. He f\’ed up bad.

    However, if Erik _was_ leaving a bar at 2:44am and riding while intoxicated, that\’s another piece of a very complicated and sad puzzle. Whether he was or not doesn\’t shift blame and it doesn\’t make this any less tragic.

    Anyways… I digress… I will not be a target of all of this angst.

    My thoughts are certainly with Erik and his family.

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  • Usually Asleep at 3am May 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    This is a tragedy for sure! For Erik, for Anna-Carin, and for Jeremy\’s daughter too. My reaction is to feel bad for all parties involved and start to figure out ways to make the tragedy less so.

    Alcohol for sure impeded Jeremy\’s judgement and regardless of what I\’ve heard about him (re: nice guy) he made multiple and inexcusably stupid mistakes.

    But you all sound like a mob out to get Frankenstein. You don\’t even know the full story yet. Your immediate anger and quick judgement is what gets us all into war. (I\’m guessing MOST of the messagers on this thread are men.)

    Meanwhile, my prayers are for the injured and their families. Our community has been dealt a sad blow.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    #72, What someone should be able to do has no bearing on the fact that it is a high risk time to ride. At 2:30am (when bars close), be EXTRA aware of your surroundings and assume nothing from any driver.

    It\’s really common sense when you account for good bicycle safety.

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  • a.O May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    No seriously, Jeremy – STFU.

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  • jeff May 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    \”be EXTRA aware of your surroundings and assume nothing from any driver\”

    Sure, great advice, you\’re friggin brilliant. How do you know he was not? All you do is speculate, that it\’s stupid to be out when the bars close, that the cyclist could have been drunk too.

    Here\’s what we know – your friend was drunk, ran someone over, and left. That\’s all I need to know. That you are here defending him shows a lot about your character too.

    Nice guys may get drunk and do some stupid things, but they don\’t run people over an d then leave. Get it?

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    I agree with #76.

    Nobody is excusing Jeremy here… Well at least not me. He\’ll need to pay for what he has done through due course.

    Furthermore, it\’s the forgiveness of Erik and his family that will be most hard to attain. Jeremy undoubtedly already feels this weight on his soul.

    However, I won\’t just shut up because anger has gotten in the way of reason. I also won\’t subscribe to a lynch mob mentality.

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  • wsbob May 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    \”Lesson 1. Never mix alcohol and driving

    Lesson 2. Don\’t ride a bicycle at 2:44am

    I wonder if there wasn\’t alcohol involved on the bicycle side of the equation as well…\” Jereme

    Lesson 2… . What kind of a lesson is that? Just abandon the streets to the drunks for a couple hours after the bars close?

    So what if there was \”…alcohol involved on the bicycle side of the equation as well.\” ? Are you imagining that the injured cyclist Eric Davidson may have been so impaired as to have been unable to avoid driver Jeremy Jordan as he proceeded to \” drive out of the parking lot “at a high rate of speed” \”(quote from editor Maus article above)?.

    Under the circumstances, a cold sober person may not have been able to avoid being hit by a lunatic such as Jordan.

    Whatever displays of charm and conviviality drunk driver Jeremy Jordan\’s friends and associates may have associated him with, where a crucial part of his personality is concerned, he holds absolutely no regard for human life other than his own.

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  • jeff May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    \”Nobody is excusing Jeremy here… Well at least not me.\”

    But don\’t you see? You are… By speculating that the cyclist was drunk, wasn\’t paying attention, shouldn\’t be on the road. All of that serves to excuse Jeremy. We are angry at someone who ran another human being over and left – we have that right.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    #79, I have yet to defend Jeremy or call him my friend.

    I have yet to speculate that Erik wasn\’t paying attention. I only suggested that others do.

    I have yet to accuse Erik of being intoxicated. I just said it\’s possible as he was out at 2:44am when bars close.

    I don\’t seek to rebuff Jeremy\’s character. I\’m shocked he did it, and I\’m angry that he was capable.

    I don\’t seek to defame Erik. There\’s every chance that he did everything he could to be safe.

    The point is we don\’t know, but you\’ve already tied the rope over the tree.

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  • jeff May 12, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    FU Jeremy.

    http://www.myspace.com/jeremykjordan

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  • jeff May 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    \”The point is we don\’t know, but you\’ve already tied the rope over the tree.\”

    Again, we know he ran someone over and left. That is what we know, all we know, and all I need to know to be completely outraged.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    #81, I won\’t argue any of that. There was a blatant disregard for human life displayed by Jeremy.

    Were the victims judgment impaired by alcohol, it could compound an already volatile situation. Would it change the outcome? Implausible, not impossible.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    #85, Very true, and once again a point I can\’t and won\’t argue.

    Even had he not left the scene, this would still be a heinous crime.

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  • Usually Asleep at 3am May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    \”Here\’s what we know – your friend was drunk, ran someone over, and left. That\’s all I need to know.\”

    Is it? Really? Do you maybe want to at least let the justice system look into this and see what ALL the facts are? Mob mentality is right! Ignorance is bliss isn\’t it? Where\’s our torches and pitchforks?

    Ya\’ll scare me with your emotions of outrage first and your concern for (all) human life second.

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  • a.O May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Yes, really, we do know your idiot friend was drunk, stole things, ran over someone, and then left them for dead. His becoming a convicted felon is an afterthought here. He\’s scum and so are you.

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  • jeff May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Mob mentality? Who\’s calling for this? Can I be angry without being accused of wanting to lynch someone?

    Yeah let\’s see what all the facts are. You can speculate and make excuses and distract the argument with your acusations of mob mentatily. But it\’s going to be tough to change the fact that this guy almost killed someone and then left.

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  • anon May 12, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    a.O — How long is the ride in from Gresham?

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  • lyle May 12, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    \”#72, What someone should be able to do has no bearing on the fact that it is a high risk time to ride. At 2:30am (when bars close), be EXTRA aware of your surroundings and assume nothing from any driver.

    It\’s really common sense when you account for good bicycle safety.\”

    Aside from you blaming the victim here (and you\’re doing just that, no matter what you say. you just are, accept it)… I agree with you about the perils of being out on the roads in any manner during that time.

    Which is why i can\’t stress enough how much i personally feel like the Police should explore conducting random drunk driving roadblocks.

    PoPo: Do you know if the leadership in the PPD has taken any steps to explore making this happen?

    I would imagine the deterrent factor would be HUGE.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    #92,

    It\’s honestly not my intention to blame Erik here. Rather it\’s my intention to point out ways that we can all work to reduce our own risk from being a victim of a DUI hit and run.

    I apologize if you perceive this as blame toward Eric. I wish no ill will against him or his family and all of my thoughts toward this event are definitely focused at hoping Erik makes a 100% recovery. Jeremy has stolen something much greater than any of the media outlets have noted and that\’s the healthy future that Erik still had at 2:30am.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Growing up in Missouri we had alcohol checkpoints all three nights every weekend.

    It gets the drunks off the road sooner and deters those with half a brain who almost make the wrong decision, but then are righted.

    The sad thing is that, many times, a DUI isn\’t enough to deter someone. Even sadder is that sometimes a situation like this isn\’t even enough to deter someone unless the justice system passes down an appropriate sentence.

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  • Usually Asleep at 3am May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    You can be angry.

    Something terrible has happened and it is the fault of another. However, what you do with that anger will show your true self.

    Eventually maybe you can consider forgiveness.

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  • jeff May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    I\’m not afraid to show my true self. Sometimes I am happy, sometimes I am angry. These emotions are human and when well directed can elicit positive change; there is nothing inherently negative about it.

    Forgiveness, eventually, maybe, but not today. Today, I judge people by the choices they make. Jeremy made a choice.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Well then may God have mercy on Jeremy, because nobody else will.

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  • tonyt May 12, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Jereme,

    I appreciate that you are trying to cool the lynch mob, but frankly, I think it\’s backfiring. Things only REALLY started to get going around here once Jeremy\’s friends started to insist that we know that Jeremy was;

    nice, intelligent, caring, had a daughter, etc.

    Or \”best\” of all, merely in the \”wrong place at the wrong time.\”

    One can only imagine how that statement didn\’t help.

    A common thread that I notice among most stories involving crimes, some like this and some NOT like this, is how the friends and family so often say, \”Oh he\’s not a bad person, he just fell into a bad crowd.\” or \”He\’s really a good person, but he made bad choices.\”

    See where I\’m going? The Jeremy defenders here seem to want us to know that somehow he is exceptional. That our rage should be mitigated by his uniqueness, by his otherwise good characteristics. But you know what? He\’s only unique in that you know him.

    To the rest of us, he\’s a drunk driver who tried to steal beer and damn near killed a member of our community in the process.

    You are experiencing cognitive dissonance. You know Jeremy to be nice, yet are horrified by his actions. It helps this disconnect if somehow you can convince others that he\’s a nice guy, then we can join you in your confusion. But we aren\’t confused because we don\’t know him. We read about things like this in the newspaper all the time, and Jeremy\’s just one more in a long list of \”nice guys\” who\’ve reeked havoc upon those who just happened to cross his path.

    You\’re not really offering us anything new here.

    The best thing you can do is get together with some of Jeremy\’s other friends and figure out what you can all do to help Jeremy and maybe even Erik.

    Our outrage here is no more unique than your desire to defend Jeremy. You\’re not going to be able to make us less angry. Some people ARE being especially ugly, and I\’m sorry for that. But your time would probably be better spent visiting Jeremy and letting him know that you\’re still his friend.

    \”Usually Asleep at 3am\” – If you can\’t see how your ill-advised moniker is blaming the victim of a tragic event, you shouldn\’t be advising anyone on moral rightness.

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  • Bob_M May 12, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Jereme
    Post your opinions on a NASCAR fan blog board. You will get the responses you want there.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    #98, Your points are all notable and correct except the part where I, in particular, never sought to defend Jeremy. I feel no inner desire to help him. This energy would be best spent finding ways to help the victim in this crime, not the victimizer.

    However, I\’m tired of fueling the fire. I\’m just going to slink away and pretend I never opened this can of sh*t that was mislabeled \”good intention\” that I suddenly find myself drinking.

    I won\’t ignore the issue… Just this thread of discussion.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    Bob_M,

    An off-topic retaliatory burn really serves no purpose here. Be constructive toward the discussion or at least on-topic regarding the subject matter that this blog is about.

    You really bring that sense of \”community\” to light here. I feel really welcomed.

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  • rixtir May 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Jereme, @74:

    If you truly question why somebody is out at 2:44 A.M., why aren\’t you questioning why the DRIVER was out at that hour? You seem to have a very one-sided, blame the victim perspective on this DUI hit & run.

    So really, Jereme, I want to know, shouldn\’t the real question here be what was the driver doing out at that hour?

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    #102, Skip to the top and read the article. Pick up the paper. Read these posts… The drivers f\’ed up motive was clear and that question is answered. That\’s why I don\’t ask the obvious.

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  • a.O May 12, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Folks, please stop feeding the trolls.

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  • rixtir May 12, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    It\’s not obvious, Jereme. Had your friend broadsided another driver, instead of a cyclist, would you really have asked what the other driver was doing out at that hour? Of course not. The question– \”What was the cyclist doing out there at that hour?\”– is rhetorical. Neither you nor anybody else wants to know specifically where he came from or where he was going. You are really stating, through a rhetorical question, your belief that the cyclist had no business being on the road at that hour.

    And I\’m asking why you believe that drivers belong on the road at that hour, but cyclists don\’t.

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  • steve May 12, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    I\’m no racist, but….

    I am not blaming the victim, but….

    Qualifying yourself before spewing your crap does not make it smell better.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    #105, you are right in that I would have failed to question why a victimized driver is out at that hour. Truly an unfair assessment on my part.

    I do believe, though, that most drivers have no business on the road at that hour, because probably 1 out of 3 (guessing) have been drinking.

    I don\’t mean to insinuate that cyclists don\’t \”belong\” out there. I mean that folks need to be extra careful at that hour. In a car, on a bike, on foot.

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  • rixtir May 12, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Well, I\’d agree that inebriated drivers don\’t belong on the road, but I\’d say at any hour, day or night.

    But you are right, the odds of encountering an inebriated driver are greater at that hour, whether you\’re driving a car or riding a bike, and while I can\’t speak for everybody here, I prefer not to be driving or riding at the most dangerous times. But bottom line, if I\’m out on the road, and a DUI driver hits me, I still had the right to be there, and the DUI driver didn\’t.

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  • Joe May 12, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    simple man, hit one of us you hit all off us!! get it!

    Joe

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  • Bob_M May 12, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    RE #101
    Your first paragraph is correct. bundling you with NASCAR fans was out of line.

    Regarding sense of community, You walk into our room where we are trying to make sense out of a tragedy and trying to rationalize your freind\’s behavior, you spout prejudicial nonsense. You are welcome in this community, Your opinions that infer that bicyclists damaged by cars get what they deserve are not welcome here. Seeing the wisdom of post 104 I\’m out.

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  • Jereme May 12, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    Bob_M and others… Search my comments. I\’ve only ever condemned Jeremy and felt remorse for Erik. I expressed my shock that someone I only knew as a nice guy did something horrific. I also made a few unjust notations that served nobody, but I never tried to say Erik deserved anything, quite the opposite in fact.

    Let\’s move back to that topic and get over this debate. Realizing, of course, that some may need a last word or jab at me.

    I, for one, am eager for an update on Erik\’s status.

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  • Ayala May 12, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    You know, for a while I was riding home from my second job at 2, 3, 4 AM. I have every right to be out on the road at that time, for almost any reason, without anyone questioning me on it.

    My thoughts go out to Erik.

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  • Wes Robinson May 12, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    \”It\’s always foolish to ride a bike late at night when a lot of idiots are on the road.\”

    There are a lot of idiots on the road at all hours.

    Ergo, it is foolish to ride a bicycle at any time.

    Lesson 3… buy an Escalade?

    QED, I\’m sure.

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  • Beatrice May 13, 2008 at 6:57 am

    The latest offenses from the Multnomah county jail for Mr. Jordan. He\’ll be gone for a while.

    ASSAULT II (B Felony) $250,000 Unsentenced
    DUII (A Misdemeanor) $2,500 Unsentenced
    FAIL PERF DOD INJ (C Felony) $5,000 Unsentenced
    FAIL PERF DOD INJ (C Felony) $5,000 Unsentenced
    RECK ENDANGER (A Misdemeanor) $2,500 Unsentenced
    RECKLESS DRIVING (A Misdemeanor) $2,500 Unsentenced
    ROBBERY III (C Felony) $5,000 Unsentenced

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  • Justin May 13, 2008 at 9:26 am

    I am a personal friend of Erik\’s… to those defending Jeremy, that is your right. Keep in mind he chose to flee the scene, is this what a kind and compassionate person does? I think not. He deserves what is coming to him, I do wish the best for his daughter and his family. I ask all of you to stop saying this and that and just pray that Erik makes a full recovery, and pray for his wife as well. Thank you in advance

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  • Duncan May 13, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    Good is as good does- Good does not leave the scene of an accident ergo…

    And I don\’t give a shit if he has a drinking problem, I have made some bad mistakes in my life, and I always managed to hang around to face the consequences.

    Sorry Jeremy is a bad person- he may change that, he may not. But as right now he is a robber, drunk, coward, and soon he may likely be a felon.

    That is not a good person.

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  • girl on a bike May 13, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    It\’s really heartbreaking to read about something this bad happening to an innocent cyclist out of the blue. It\’s terrifying.

    There is no excuse to try to even remotely point the blame for this at Erik. The argument that Erik was probably drinking himself considering the time of night is way out of line. I am also prone to being on the street late at night when I have been doing one of two things:

    1 – babysitting
    2 – working a late-night shift at the box office at Doug Fir (not my real job, but I do it on occasion for spare $$)

    It\’s a real comfort to know that if I ever get killed by a drunk driver while biking home late one night after watching a friend\’s kid, I can expect a real deluge of sympathetic assumptions about how impaired I must\’ve been because of the time.

    A lot of people work odd shifts at grocery stories, bakeries, television and radio stations, movie theaters, gas stations (ironic, I know) … and it\’s not like the bus is running at 2 am.

    All this b.s. aside, I hope Erik\’s family knows there is a community of people who share in their grief and outrage over what happened to him. And I hope that some of the people taking the time to discuss this will also consider doing something to lend real help to his situation … myself included.

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  • El Biciclero May 13, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    People are basically and intrinsically evil. We can try to kid ourselves and claim that \”we are all innocent\” or \”basically good\”, but we are indeed kidding. Witness any child of any age. If people are basically good, then why does it take parents years of instruction and discipline to teach what they believe to even *be* right vs. wrong, let alone instill any desire in their children to practice \”good\”? Why do we so often hear that it takes courage to \”do the right thing\”? If doing good was our nature, then what courage would it take? What kind of inner struggle would there be?

    As humans, our basic nature is lazy selfishness. Left to ourselves, with no social pressure and no threat of criminal justice, we will do any evil thing we can get away with. It takes years of training, imparted wisdom, self-reflection, maturity, and practice to get over ourselves and be even remotely \”good\” people. In fact, it really does come down to what an earlier poster said: \”good is as good does\”. One decision and one action at a time determines how people will view us.

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  • Jon, Esquire May 13, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    To Jonathan Maus (Editor). You may wish to remove post #84. Jeremy Jordan is a very common name with multiple listings in Portland, even multiple with the same age as the accused. I know this as I know one with the same age that is not the accused. Unless you can independently verify that this is indeed the accused, the post should be removed to keep uninvolved parties just that, uninvolved in this matter. If someone with your same name and age does something in the same area where you live, I doubt you would like someone saying it was you and posting a link to your personal site.

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  • fellow biker May 13, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    My fear ever day is what happened and for husband who also rides. I have been reading all the comments since this has happened and I agree with every one. yes, everyone. He HAS to pay for what he did. Jail, medical attorney (the victim\’s) and maybe for life of medical treatment. A friend of mine was hit by a drunk driver and I wanted to rip the guys throat out myself! But I years later met his family. The pain it caused both sides. So deep and for life. We are all angry here. But please PLEASE leave the baby out of this conversation. The baby DID NOT do this. If you are a parent you understand the slightest bit. Say what you will about him but keep the baby out of this. I wish who ever mentioned it never did. Now many are just trashing the poor baby. He will serve his time and his family as well as Erik will be ripped out of their lives. Nothing is or will be the same again. And YES that is a TERRIBLE area and NOT shocked something like this happened. Even if some one was not drunk. Some of the roads are very dangerous. All will be punished severely in do time. And Erik paid for Jeremy\’s worst mistake of his life. Again though KEEP THE BABY OUT OF THIS TOPIC!

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  • 30 year bike veteran, Chris May 13, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    I agree with Fellow Biker. Leave the baby comments out of this. You guys sound as bad as him! Oh, and how many here even ONCE???? Drink and drive?? You and I would be liars if you said no! We just got lucky we never hit anyone. YES I am a biker for life by choice. The guy probably feels like horrible of what he did and MAYBE learned his lesson???? BUT he will pay in many ways for this mistake. Stop complaining in here and I saw a site above and go help Erik in anyway you can. Give support that way. I have over my years of riding seen drunk bike riders, drugged up bike riders as well as people in cars. Maybe we should just ban alcohol and kill all the dealers off too. And fix every frickin\’ messed up road for bikes in the state country!! No one is being responsible now days more and more!!! I pray for the victim, Erik and a fast recovery and his family. I pray for Jeremy to be punished and do whatever he can do to help the victim\’s recovery and finances. I pray Jeremy gets alcohol treatment (Probably a alcoholic) before he almost kills another or his family. I pray for his baby to see a changed father for the better one day. Too many fatherless kids out there! And I pray for Jeremy\’s wife\’s strength (if he is married) through this nightmare for her as well.

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  • wsbob May 13, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    I can understand that some people expressing outrage at this drunk driver\’s actions may themselves, on one or two occasions, may have driven a car while slightly intoxicated. While that\’s not acceptable, it sometimes occurs before responsible people fully realize the full extent of alcohol on their system. If they really are responsible, once they realize alcohols affect on them, they take steps never to allow themselves to drive under the influence again.

    There\’s a big difference between having unintentionally driven slightly intoxicated, and what this guy did: blatantly, arrogantly, criminally and without regard for other life than his own, drove his car when intelligence and knowledge he undoubtedly possesses, told him he should not.

    As a result of his irresponsibility, this drunk driver has now become a great burden to society. For years to come, he\’ll very likely be unable to provide for himself, let alone his family, or begin to compensate his victim for what he\’s done.

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  • biker from Chicago May 14, 2008 at 2:01 am

    Jon Esquire #120 asked whether a MySpace profile should be referenced here. I question the same.

    However, I saw that Myspace profile earlier (posted by #84) and it clearly was the right profile, with a photo that clearly matches the arrest photo of Jeremy. One of the first things that struck me was that Jeremy had logged in yesterday (May 13th). I guess he\’s out on bail. NO QUESTION. IT IS THE RIGHT MYSPACE PROFILE.

    Well, Jeremy himself logged in later on May 13th, and he changed the photo that his MySpace profile was displaying the first time I saw it, to another that doesn\’t show his own face, but shows him holding the baby. Now we see the baby\’s face. So who\’s not keeping the baby out of this?

    Now, some people have been writing in here to try to give a human perspective on Jeremy. Yes, I agree that he is a human being, and that he has hurt himself and his own family a lot too. His daughter will grow up knowing him through an inch of bullet-proof acrylic plastic, and he\’ll never give her a ride to a soccer game or school play.

    I have made mistakes in my life too. I\’ve done several things that, if I had been caught doing them, would have landed me in prison.

    Some of my own personal mistakes have been quite reckless, but the recklessness was most hurtful and risky to me personally, not to others, although it could have hurt others too. I admit that I have driven with too much to drink. I was certainly impaired, but I was doing my best to correct for it by driving safely and attentively, well below the speed limit, concentrating hard to not make a mistake. Of course I was stupid to do it in the first place.

    So I understand Jeremy as a human being because I have made a few mistakes too, for which I never paid the consequences the way he will. Maybe Jeremy\’s friends who have logged in here can help him be a man that his daughter can grow up to admire from here on out. It\’s never too late to make a first step.

    But putting your baby daughter\’s picture up in place of your own wasn\’t a good first step, Jeremy.

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  • Friend May 14, 2008 at 6:37 am

    Not meant to excuse or defend, but just to clear up one one thing: he didn\’t intentionally leave anyone \”to die\” as he left the scene. He knew store security had seen the crash and was there to assist Mr. Davidson. He was ignorant of the weight of hit and run penalties, so first instinct was to rush home to prepare his family for his impending absence since he didn\’t know what the future would hold. As for the drinking and driving, and the \”beer run\” attempt, that was an inexcusable and unexpected relapse to adolescence, isolated to just that night, with tragic consequences for everyone, mostly Mr. Davidson.

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  • wsbob May 14, 2008 at 9:04 am

    \”Not meant to excuse or defend, but just to clear up one one thing: he didn\’t intentionally leave anyone \”to die\” as he left the scene. He knew store security had seen the crash and was there to assist Mr. Davidson.\” Friend

    You\’re really a friend of Jordan\’s? Where did you hear that pathetic explanation? From him personally, or second hand? That\’s B.S. . Pure. B.S. . If he had a concern for human hurt that was so strong he felt the need to race home to prepare his family for his impending absence, he would have obliged himself to stay at the scene, to do anything possible to address more immediate hurt of the person he ran over with his car and critically injured.

    The dude left the scene because he was trying to get away. That\’s all there was to that B.S. .

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  • jeff May 14, 2008 at 9:19 am

    Yes, when I posted the MySpace link, it was a simple picture of Jeremy (quite obviously matching the arrest photo). It looks like Jeremy is the one bringing the baby into this. Weaksauce.

    \”Friend\” – so you\’re saying that Jeremy knew what he did, and left because he knew someone else saw the crash? So he could \”prepare his family\”? Wow. Do you know this from Jeremey? That sure indicates a clear frame of mind and understanding of the seriousness of the scenario. Weaksauce.

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  • a.O May 14, 2008 at 9:47 am

    I hear Charlie Manson was actually quite a nice guy, kind to his staff, good with kids…

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  • Keith May 14, 2008 at 10:05 am

    I think this thread has finally hit the root. It\’s subject is about one person harming another and has nothing to do with cycling or cycling advocacy. If this was an old lady who ran over a homeless person leaving the church on Sunday, this thread would be titled \”Share your weekend bike fun\”.

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  • a.O May 14, 2008 at 10:15 am

    Actually Keith, I think this thread is about the single most important topic for bicyclists, at least for me and for many of us in Portland: Safety. Or, more accurately, the danger posed to us by reckless, drunk, distracted, and otherwise dangerous drivers.

    Data show safety is the #1 concern of people – the majority of the people of Portland – who want to ride a bike but don\’t because they are afraid of people like Jeremy Jordan.

    And, as we have seen on this thread, they have good reason to be afraid. Not only are scumbags like Jeremy Jordan driving around on our streets, but when it\’s a bicyclist they critically injure and then leave for dead, people actually come to defend them as a \”good person.\”

    There seems to be a pretty serious anti-bicyclist bias built into our culture, and there are many of us who are dedicated to changing that. This is the frontline of that battle.

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  • rixtir May 14, 2008 at 10:19 am

    Unbelievable.

    Literally and figuratively.

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  • Keith May 14, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    You know a.O., I was expecting to unload
    on you if you responded to my post but you finally articulated the intelligent dialog
    that I half expect from a member of the bike community that I respect.
    My initial point was,there could have just
    as well been the last frack\’n woolly mammoth there and Jeremy would have hit it.
    Not just people who \”want\” to bike should be afraid of people like Jeremy, but people who walk, skateboard and even drive should be afraid as well.
    I agree this is not a good forum for defending him.That said, I can\’t join in the \”HATE FEST\” directed at them either.I don\’t perceive these people as excusing Jeremy at all and I respect their shock and dismay as they should respect the outrage felt by this community.

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  • a.O May 14, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    I think that\’s right, Keith, both (a) Jeremy Jordan was drunk, fleeing the scene of a crime, and otherwise unconcerned for others on the road and he would have hit whatever happened to be there; and (b) everyone else on the road should be afraid of people like Jeremy Jordan.

    Unfortunately, this issue is much larger than this criminal episode. There is a mountain of evidence showing that people, especially police, tend to blame cyclists who are doing nothing wrong when they are involved in collisions with motor vehicles.

    Finally, I think we\’ll have to respectfully disagree on the underlying intent of statements to the effect that Jeremy is really a \”good guy,\” speculating on whether Erik Davidson was intoxicated, and asserting that cyclists have no reason to be on the road in the early AM, all of which were made by supposed friends or acquaintances of Jeremy Jordan. To me, it\’s obvious that these are attempts to excuse the inexcusible. Frankly, I find them disturbing to say the least and indicative of a distinct lack of morality and sensitivity and I find it difficult to see how any reasonable person could disagree. Simply put, I am sickened by them. Jeremy Jordan and his so-called friends epitomize what\’s wrong with this world.

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  • Keith May 14, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    So..by what you say, should I blame his
    friends for his actions? Doesn\’t justice require advocacy for the accused? Or are we to have the attitude of \”this is were we will execute him after the trial\” ?

    I think though, that if these friends of Jeremy were close to the Portland bike scene, they would also know better than to be on the opposite side of the consensus of Bikeportland.org.There is no mercy here.

    This forum/community/website has taught me a lot and I am very grateful. I think education is the purpose of this area. It seems to me, as distasteful as it may be, we should be adopting these orphans that Jeremy left
    behind and teaching them why we feel like we do instead of cursing them for feeling the way they do. Who of us are going to be the one who teaches his daughter how to ride a bike safely? Guilt by association is a very blunt weapon.

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  • Keith May 14, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    On another note..had Jeremy\’s friends not posted here, the focus would be on Eric Davidson were it belongs. If no one saw this in an another thread larz left this address.

    http://aceanderic.wordpress.com/ for more info.

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  • a.O May 14, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    I find it astonishing anyone would assert that someone would have to be \”close to the Portland bike scene,\” or any scene for that matter, to know better than to make such ridiculous statements. All they need is a basic understanding of morality.

    Furthermore, you are sorely mistaken to confuse these pathetic excuses with advocacy for the accused. I have no doubt Jeremy Jordan will have the advocate justice requires, nor that there will be no defense of his actions at his trial. Indeed, there won\’t even be a trial – and there\’s a very obvious reason for that.

    No, these so-called friends have attempted to change the general public\’s opinion of Jeremy. Not only is that futile, but, at least here, it has backfired substantially. And it has caused me to form an opinion of them – they\’re idiots.

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  • wsbob May 14, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    You don\’t have to wander very far to find people that think it\’s totally o.k. to get balls to the wall drunk and do whatever they want to do that they think is important to themselves at a given moment…and to hell with everything and everyone else.

    Certain interest groups (that shall go un-named here) have this outlook as their group ethic, philosophy for living, etc. They think they\’re passionate, devoted family types too; love their wife, kids, brothers, sisters, etc, etc, but they\’re still alright with going out on a lark and doing various destructive kinds of things affecting other people.

    I\’d say the odds are good that the \’friends\’ of Jeremy Jason piping up here, attempting ever so slightly to counter the atrocity of his actions come from that way of thinking.

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  • what is wrong with u people May 14, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    While all of you people argue about who did what. Eric is in the hospital with no brain activity. How can any of you argue that this man was at fault. You people are heartless.

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  • Steve May 14, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    I want to say that when I first heard about this, all I could do was think about how stupid it was to do what Jeremy did. I sure hope that Eric is able to recover (at least as much as possible) from this tragic event. I also want to say one thing to the cyclist community with regard to the negative comments aimed at them (none by me). To be fair, I am not a cyclist, but am a runner and put a lot of time and miles on the roads myself (3K miles/year) so I understand how a car can ruin your day, as I have been hit before, and near misses many times per week. But, as with any large group, there are members of the group that do more harm than good while trying to further their cause. I believe that most cyclists just want a safe environment to ride it. But, those on the fringe, who seem to garner the most attention from the media and general public, can put a big damper on the overall cause.

    Case in point, my wife and I were walking in downtown headed towards Powell’s. We were waiting at the crosswalk to walk across Stark. When the light changed and our crosswalk said walk, we began to walk across the road (in the crosswalk). At that time, a group (30-40) of Critical Mass bicyclists came straight through the red light (down Stark) and one clipped my wife (very lucky I was not carrying my permitted concealed weapon at the time). When this happened, several cyclists yelled, “Yield to bicyclists!” This absolutely enraged me and it is a good thing that the cyclists were moving at a high rate of speed, and I was concentrating more on tending to my wife. Not one cyclist stopped for the red light and none stopped to provide assistance of any kind. Luckily, my wife was fine, with just minor abrasions and a sore knee and ankle. Now I do not believe this is the majority of bicyclists who act in this manner, but I can guarantee if I am put in a situation like that again, I may react much differently.

    My whole point is that the bicycling community needs to attempt to reign in some of the more fringe groups giving the bicyclists a bad name. These people who act in this manner are not helping your cause, as you can see by the negative comments towards bicyclists. I think it is great that cyclists are trying to get the word out about their troubles and help to fix them, but at the same time, these so called activists (who are doing more harm than good) need to be silenced as much as possible, or your message will never be accepted by the general public.

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  • Duncan May 14, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    steve and this has to do with the accident in what way? Was Eric down by Powells? Did Mr. Jordan plow into critical mass?

    No the answer is no. Why is it every time, any where on earth a person is hurt while on a bike by a car some one has to come forward with some bike dtory.

    You know what Steve, I have been hit by cars twice this year- yet I some how manage to separate the two jerks that hit me from the rest of the general public.

    Maybe you should try it.

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  • wsbob May 14, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    Steve, it\’s a major disappointment that some Critical Mass riders injured your wife and didn\’t stop, but given the nature of Critical Mass, it comes as no surprise that it happened. Critical Mass has critical problems regarding questions of conduct and responsibility.

    I get your point in offering the incident as an example on a thread about another example of careless, self absorbed indifference on the part of one person to another. Although obviously not on all, on some key points, the Critical Mass rider that struck your wife and the others that disregarded traffic lights are no less obnoxious and rude than drunk driver Jeremy Jason.

    What to do about the kind of screwy mentality that takes over reason and personal responsibility within some groups is a good question. From what I\’ve seen and what I\’ve heard about CM, there may not be anything to be done about some of the people in that group. It\’s operating philosophy invites the kind of thinking that resulted in your wife being clipped.

    Mind you, there are some great people in CM\’s fairly long history and tradition that would never have personally committed a hit and run on a person or condone that kind of behavior. The group as a whole does not seem inclined to take measures that would be required to rein in some of the offensive participants of the ride.

    Even though they do it anyway, most people at least seem to understand they shouldn\’t be drinking and driving.

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  • rixtir May 15, 2008 at 12:03 am

    I\’d certainly be inclined to inflict bodily harm on some jerk clipping my girlfriend like that, so I can understand Steve\’s anger.

    But I\’m not getting why that comment has any relation to a news item about the arrest of a DUI hit & run suspect who left a cyclist for dead.

    Nor do I understand exactly what it is I or anybody else here is supposed to do about it. It\’s the equivalent of saying that until Steve reigns in all the DUI and other dangerous motorists, he can\’t expect any sympathy from us because his wife was clipped– and that just doesn\’t make any sense, does it? Steve is no more responsible for what some jerk he doesn\’t even know does while driving than any of us are for what some jerk we don\’t even know does while riding.

    Does that make sense to you, Steve?

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  • a.O May 15, 2008 at 8:15 am

    \”At that time, a group (30-40) of Critical Mass bicyclists came straight through the red light (down Stark) and one clipped my wife (very lucky I was not carrying my permitted concealed weapon at the time).\”

    Yes, because shooting someone for making incidental contact with someone else on the street would have been an appropriate response, right? WRONG. It would be a crime. Attempted murder or murder. You are what\’s wrong with our society.

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  • Beatrice May 15, 2008 at 9:35 am

    To the earlier comment that Jeremy is out on bail, check out this link. I can assure you he is resting quite uncomfortably in the multnomah county jail. Someone else is changing his MySpace.

    http://www.mcso.us/PAID/BookingDetail.aspx?ID=uzRB1psG8TtDTVj3KC2s7Q==

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  • Steve May 15, 2008 at 10:44 am

    a.O
    There are more kinds of permitted concealed weapons than guns (or maybe you don\’t know that). There are non-lethal permitted concealed weapons (taser), which I own and was referring to. As for why I posted my comment, it seems that some bicyclists here are unclear as to why some people are frustrated with bicyclists. The bicyclists getting into the news and the public perception are largely the ones similar to the one who clipped my wife. Just like the drivers getting into the news are the ones like Jeremy, neither stellar examples of the majority of their respective groups. Now I am not equating the injuries of my wife to those of Eric, because that is not the case. I was just explaining that many people in the general public, who do not bike, unfortunately only see and remember the negative bicyclist actions. I believe this site is trying to take a step in the right direction to improve that, by putting a positive message out there by bicyclists. I was merely making the point that the more positive information the biking community can put out there, the better their chances of changing the general perception. Otherwise, those hogging the news will be the more radical groups. Now I don’t believe it is much the case in this group, but in other posts I have read the ‘us vs them’ (automobiles vs bicycles) mentality and that is only going to harm your cause. I could definitely see a.O being a person hurting your cause in the general public’s eyes. Peejay’s comment in #65 is much to my point to the cycling community.

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  • wsbob May 15, 2008 at 10:47 am

    I respectfully disagree, either that Steve is \”…what\’s wrong with our society\” (a.O), or that the occurrence he and his wife personally experienced has nothing to do with the topic of this thread; the actions of drunk driver Jeremy Jason in mowing down an innocent cyclist while on a personal mission, which is essentially what Rixter tries to claim.

    \”Not one cyclist stopped for the red light and none stopped to provide assistance of any kind.\” Steve

    \”When the light changed and our crosswalk said walk, we began to walk across the road (in the crosswalk).\” Steve

    Got that you two? Steve and his wife had the right to cross the road with the walk signal. The CM cyclists were obliged by law, to yield to the pedestrians, Steve and his wife. Actually, as I\’m sure nearly everyone reading here knows, the cyclists had an obligation to yield to the pedestrians even if they didn\’t have a walk light. Steve and his wife did what they were supposed to. The CM cyclists did not.

    And then they, just like hit and run drunk driver Jeremy Jason, rode away after inflicting injury on an innocent person. They, the people participating in CM rides that would do that, and people like Jeremy Jason, are one of the things that\’s wrong with our society.

    Even though he said it, based on how and what he wrote in his post, I\’m going to venture that Steve is not the kind of guy that would pull out his \”…permitted concealed weapon…\” and shoot one of the CM idiots for clipping his wife. He might not be as good as some people commenting on this site are, at concealing impulsive thoughts that occur to them, but I think he said what he said, metaphorically.

    Steve and his wife\’s experience relates to this thread because both incidents have in common the fact that in each case, a vulnerable user of the road had pain and injury inflicted upon them by other users of the road, specifically by means of their particular type of conveyance having an inherent potential for this.

    We all should want to know why people seemed to think it was alright to hurt vulnerable road users such as cyclist Eric Davidson and pedestrian Steve and his wife, so as to be more effective is changing whatever it is that lets people think that doing that sort of thing is o.k. .

    Steve suggests \”…these so called activists (who are doing more harm than good) need to be silenced as much as possible, or your message will never be accepted by the general public.\” Steve

    I don\’t think it\’s quite the right idea to do that. At the same time a call to the cycling public to at least attempt to rein in some of their fellow members that go far afield, is in order. That word \’group-think\’ is usually used derisively, but the mechanism it describes is not always used negatively.

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  • a.O May 15, 2008 at 11:05 am

    You people need to get over the idea that it\’s appropriate to stereotype everyone who rides a bike. If you can\’t treat people as individuals, then you are not worth having a conversation with. And I stand by my assertion that it is totally inappropriate and criminal to use a weapon against someone when not in self-defense.

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  • Steve May 15, 2008 at 11:12 am

    a.O
    I am not stereotyping all riders. If I were, I wouldn\’t say that I don\’t believe the majority of riders act in this manner. I am saying a minute minority of riders act this way. If I were stereotyping all riders, I would have said all riders. Also, when someone is assaulting you (i.e. running you over) self defense doesn’t apply?? Now that is some strange thinking.

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  • a.O May 15, 2008 at 11:23 am

    Yes Steve, you are stereotyping all riders by saying that the statements of some will hurt the image of all. That\’s stereotyping. End of discussion.

    And no, there is physically no way for you, while or after being \”clipped\” by someone, to use a weapon on self-defense. You would either use the weapon as you saw them approach you rather than attempt to get out of the way, in which case you are the person committing assault. Or you would use it after-the-fact, in which case it is not self-defense, but once again assault. Clearly the course you took didn\’t properly educate you on the relevant law. And clearly you are willing to use your concealed weapon criminally, which means you should have your permit revoked.

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  • rixtir May 15, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    First, wsbob is absolutely right that the pedestrians had the right of way, which makes Steve absolutely right that it was assault.

    And because it\’s assault, I would feel justified in defending myself, or coming to the defense of the person assaulted. Any idiot out there who thinks it\’s cool to assault pedestrians in the name of \”cycling advocacy\” should understand that I will fight back, and after I\’ve taken them down, I will press assault charges against them.

    However, while I don\’t disagree with wsbob and Steve about the need to rein in the most egregious examples of anti-social riding behaviors, we\’re still as much constrained in doing that s Steve is constrained in reining in the most egregious examples of anti-social driving behavior…Or, because Steve is a runner, the most egregious examples of anti-social running. Recall that there was an incident on the Sellwood Bridge in the not-too-distant pass where a local running club assaulted a cyclist crossing the bridge. What, exactly, has Steve done about that? Nothing? Is it because he has no idea that it even occurred, let alone who did it? Well, it\’s the same with us. I can\’t think of a single person who posts here who would approve of the assault on Steve\’s wife– but what exactly can any of us do about it? We didn\’t even know it happened, let alone know who it was, so reining those thugs in isn\’t something that\’s easily accomplished. We can talk about it here, tsk-tsk our disapproval, and shake out heads, but that\’s about it. Which is about all Steve can do about drivers or runners he doesn\’t even know need to be reined in.

    Finally, I\’d like to take issue with the notion that people don\’t like cyclists because of incidents like the assault on Steve\’s wife. While I think those kinds of incidents certainly inflame opinion against us, I disagree that they\’re the reason people don\’t like cyclists; those kinds of incidents act to confirm that a bias against cyclists is justified, but the underlying bias is already there. If it wasn\’t there, all cyclists wouldn\’t be judged by the behavior of a few thugs– you\’d just call them what they are– a few thugs. But extrapolating their thuggish behavior to all cyclists indicates an already existing, underlying prejudice against cyclists– a prejudice that is rooted in many factors, including a competition between in-groups and out-groups over a limited resource– the roadway. If you don\’t believe there\’s a pre-existing bias against cyclists, Steve, ask yourself why the public-at-large thinks cyclists should have to rein in criminal cyclists– whom they don\’t even know– before cyclists can be respected on the road, but they don\’t think drivers should have to rein in criminal drivers– who other drivers also don\’t even know– before drivers can be respected on the road.

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  • Steve May 15, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    To clarify, I personally do not stereotype all cyclists as some negative or militant group. If I did, I wouldn’t have stated things as I did. And I was acknowledging that there is a bias in the general public against bicyclists, though not shared by myself (that was one of my main points). There are two ways to promote something, positively and negatively. We have all seen many examples of this recently in all the political adds out there. I was merely stating that if the cycling community can try to get more positive than negative communications to the general public, it would be received more easily by the general public. Thus moving the general public’s perception of cyclists to a more cyclist-friendly one.

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  • Steve May 15, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    By the way, when I mentioned reigning in counter-productive groups, that can be done by countering their message. People by nature can only draw conclusions based on information they have been exposed to. If the only information they have been exposed to has come from sources unsympathetic or counter to your cause, they are extremely unlikely to side with you. Continue to focus and talk about the positive aspects of cycling (i.e. cycling is great exercise) and shy away from the negative message approach (i.e. anyone not biking is [fill in the blank]). Maybe that was a better way of stating what I was saying.

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  • wsbob May 15, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Steve\’s wife wasn\’t clipped by some random, anonymous cyclist. According to Steve\’s account of the incident, she was clipped by a cyclist participating in a Critical Mass ride, several of whose members shouted out after the impact, \”yield to bikes!\”, followed by at least some of the group riding on by without making even the slightest offer of assistance.

    CM seems to represent itself as some sort of cyclist advocacy phenomena, yet, at least in Portland, in some ways, its rides have not been a friend to individual cyclists or the future of cycling, often obliging pedestrians and drivers to wait and endure long processions of hundreds and thousands of law disregarding bicyclists.

    CM is not just individual cyclists. It\’s individual cyclists making up a group, specifically, a group suggesting that its form of advocacy in some way represents the future of cycling in the city. It\’s not stereotyping to take the example the group itself presents to define who it and its members represent.

    When the advocacy group defined this way allows its members to become obnoxious and actually hurt innocent people, this risks the possibility of reflecting accordingly on the advocacy group and those they advocate for.

    Yeah, I\’m sure CM and participants will try argue that they\’re not a \’group\’, and that they don\’t represent all cyclists. Many of the public just doesn\’t have the time or energy to figure that out.

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  • a.O May 16, 2008 at 9:09 am

    \”I\’m sure CM and participants will try argue that they\’re not a \’group\’, and that they don\’t represent all cyclists. Many of the public just doesn\’t have the time or energy to figure that out.\”

    Here\’s a little thought experiment for you, wsbob: Take the words \”CM\” and \”cyclists\” out of the excerpt above (or your entire post) and insert the relevant terms for some other arbitrarily-defined social group, whether by vehicle choice or some other social characteristic. Then tell me how that new version sounds to you. I think you will find the same reasoning is the basis for racism, sexism, and other sloppy and anti-social thinking that we don\’t accept as adequate for the level of socialization required to exist in a civil society.

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  • Dabby May 16, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Actually,

    The Critical Ass rider hitting a pedestrian and not stopping is also called a HIT and RUN!

    Punishable by the same laws governing Jeremy, whether the person hit was injured or not, whether the rider was drunk or not, as there is no way of knowing whether you have injured someone or not unless you stop and check on their condition.

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  • a.O May 16, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    Wow Dabby, you\’re so good at being wrong it\’s uncanny. The law Jordan was charged with only requires stopping if there is an injury; whether you know of the injury or not is irrelevant. Therefore, it wasn\’t \”hit and run.\”

    It was an assault, but nobody ever said it wasn\’t. Also, whether it is assault has nothing to do with who has the right of way.

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  • Dabby May 16, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    I was referring to the actual crime that occurred, not the charges our lackluster police dept choose to apply.

    What happened outside this Safeway, where a driver hit a bike and left the scene, is a HIT and RUN, just like the accident described during Critical Ass above.

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  • wsbob May 16, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    I\’m not sure the \’thought experiment\’ you suggest has much practical value for understanding CM\’s relationship to the cycling population. CM isn\’t an arbitrarily definied social group. It\’s an advocacy group with objectives that have been rather consistently defined by the conduct of many of the participants during various rides.

    Right this moment, I don\’t have the energy to go into my understanding of what those objectives are. I will say though, that some CM participants have struggled over a long time, trying to get people in the rides to follow the rules of the road and show consideration for those not on the ride, with little success.

    The result, cops actions aside, is that CM participation in Portland has dropped off dramatically. Choosing not to ride with CM is how I think cyclists have chosen to respond the bad conduct of CM participants, due to concern about the effect that conduct has on the perception of cycling by the general public.

    Getting back to Steve\’s suggestion that the conduct of the people on the CM ride may hurt advances in cycling improvements, I don\’t know how much CM\’s bad behavior affects the general public\’s impression of cyclists. Maybe it doesn\’t at all. It\’s possible the public wouldn\’t simply associate the bad behavior of CM participants with cyclists in general, not wanting to unfairly stereotype… . Personally, I\’m not so sure that hasn\’t happened.

    CM made a lot of people really angry. Stuck at intersections waiting for the sometimes huge masses to clear, those people had lots of time to carefully study the people riding the bikes, effectively eliminating use of the streets by the people waiting.

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  • rixtir May 16, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    Jeremy collided with a cyclist; the \”cycling advocate\” collided with a pedestrian, perhaps intentionally. Those collisions were the \”hit.\” Both persons who were hit were injured. Both Jeremy and the \”cycling advocate\” left the scene. That\’s the \”run.\”

    Both are felons.

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  • Dabby May 16, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    WSBOB,

    It is a fact that the public associates the negative behavior of Critical Ass cyclists with cyclists in general. This should be very apparent to anyone paying any sort of attention.

    This is the best reason for it to never happen again…..

    I am glad to see it is still dying off here.

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  • rixtir May 16, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    And by the way, I don\’t mean to say that the injuries are comparable– just that the y\’re both hot & runs, and seeing that Jeremy has been charged with assault, probably both assaults.

    Jeremy did more damage, so his sentence should be stiffer, but both felons should be doing time.

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  • Racer X May 16, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    Jonathan…how about giving this mini group a new thread to blog back and forth on re CM…so it does not scare off other readers/posters?

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  • a.O May 17, 2008 at 9:06 am

    Well, Steve says his wife was injured, but can you believe such reports from someone with such an obvious anti-bicyclist bias? What else would be the point of posting that story on this thread? By the way, that\’s a rhetorical question.

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  • wsbob May 17, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    The point of the story (Steve\’s, comment #139)? More than one it seems. Steve should say for himself, but maybe it isn\’t that hard to figure out.

    Both incidents have in common, the same self-serving, arrogant attitude behind them; what\’s the reason for those attitudes, and what can be done to change them?

    In both incidents, people of certain groups beyond but associated with the person that actually caused the damage, may have played a role in the person allowing themselves to do what they did. I\’m just speculating about drunk driver J Jason having had friends that may have led him to think it was alright to drink and drive like he did. In CM, it\’s common practice to disregard traffic signs and signals and indulge in a certain contempt for other people on the street not involved in the ride.

    It\’s a major ongoing challenge to help people understand why and how they must manage their behavior and conduct themselves in ways that can benefit, rather than cause undue harm to themselves and others. Laws and jails alone are not enough. If certain people had expended a little more effort in the right direction on a personal level with their friends and associates, there might not have been a drunk driver out on the road to run over cyclist Eric Davidson, and the CM riders might not have been so callous and indifferent in a way that would lead them to clip Steve\’s wife as they tried to cross the street with the walk signal.

    a.O, maybe it\’s a matter of perception, but I just don\’t see that Steve holds an anti-cycling bias. His comments sound similar to those of numerous others I\’ve heard; people that are seriously distressed and annoyed by common and very irresponsible conduct by people on bikes using public streets. They even like bikes, but need to see a lot more examples of people riding responsibly to reassure and prove to them that bikes can be a positive presence on the street.

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  • Cassie Pemberton May 20, 2008 at 11:18 am

    HI everyone. I\’m Eric Davidson\’s cousin. First off- thanks to all the well-wishes and support. For those of you who are blaming the victim for lack of helmet or riding at night, just keep in mind that anyone at any time can be hit be a drunk driver. It doesn\’t matter what time of day and a helmet provides little protection when your body is hit with approx. 2945 pounds of steel. Wouldn\’t it have been great if the guy who hit Eric had been riding his bike to the store instead?

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  • Duncan May 20, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    Thanks Cassie for brining this back to topic.

    I hope Eric makes a full recovery, and I am sorry for all the suffering that he, his partner, friends and family have gone through because of the selfish choices of one individual.

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  • Russ May 21, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    Looks like the Grand Jury came in:

    http://www.mcso.us/PAID/BookingDetail.aspx?ID=uzRB1psG8TtDTVj3KC2s7Q==

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  • Kevin B May 22, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    Eric & Anna-Carin you are in my thoughts and prayers.

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  • Bill R May 26, 2008 at 8:44 pm

    I saw Eric the other day (as of the 25th, Sunday), his wife and sister were at the hospital as were a few of Eric\’s neighbors. Eric is looking much better (and can tell his wife is feeling much better), and able to open his eyes and at least make some sounds. I feel confident that he could hear voices. Eric will recover fully; I am certain as he is a fighter and not one to give up and roll over to this tragedy. Eric needs your prayers now.

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  • Ted May 27, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    The Cyclist should not have had a BAC of .28

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  • Russ May 27, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Wow Ted, Eric got hit by someone who drove a dangerous vehicle drunk on a beer run, then robbed the store that refused to sell him the beer, then steamed out of the parking lot as fast as he could to get away, then hit someone who was crossing his path harming the person so badly that he is still in a coma two weeks later, and THEN left the scene and offered no assistance.

    I don\’t think operating any kind of vehicle intoxicated is smart, but the person in the wrong here is Jeremy Jordan. I don\’t know what Eric\’s blood alcohol level was, but I do know he didn\’t hit someone on his bike and almost kill them. If he had, I\’d want Eric to be the one imprisoned for a very, very long time; but guess what? It was Jeremy who did the near-killing. Blaming Eric, even in part, is awe inspiring. Are you a lawyer? A lobbyist? An Axe murderer? Are you missing your frontal lobe and your executive functioning?

    The problem with the justice system is no matter what kind of punishment they extract from Mr. Jordan, it won\’t begin to undo the damage he did that night. That will be left to the people who love Eric and the people who help him and his family for no other reason than they have a conscience. I wish I could say the same for you.

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  • wsbob May 27, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Ted, is that fact, or did you just make it up? If it\’s fact, how did you come by that information?

    \”The Cyclist should not have had a BAC of .28\” Ted comment, #170

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  • Russ May 30, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    Jeremy Jordan posted bail yesterday and is out. Anyone know how the case is going to proceed?

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  • Robert Dobbs May 30, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    Blaming the victim, disgusting.

    Read this all the way through, Ted:

    http://aceanderic.wordpress.com/

    Jeremy Jordan did this to Eric. Eric did not do this to himself.

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  • wsbob May 31, 2008 at 12:25 am

    Ted (comment #170), has made absolutely no effort whatsoever, to validate his allegation.

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  • mac June 2, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    First, I would like to extend my best wishes to Eric and his wife and hope that he makes a full recovery.

    Second, this tragic (and utterly avoidable) accident has taken a sinister twist. As someone who has followed the case since 2:30 am on May 10, new information has come to my attention that the rest of you need to know. This was no ordinary hit-and-run. My sources close to the case have shared the following.

    After hitting Eric, Jordan pulled around the corner from Safeway and stopped. After seeing security from Safeway approach Eric, he got back in his car and took off, leaving Eric for dead. Jordan was aware, however, that he left begind his front license plate and knew he would be caught, so he drove home to explain to his wife ****name deleted by moderator*** what had happened. He then gave her all of his banking information, details on how to run his business, and waited to be picked up. It is my understanding that he was arrested at his home around 6:30am. Once in custody, he submitted to a blood test which came back at .12 (mind you, this is at 6:30am).

    Jeremy Jordan deserves what he has coming…that is all I have to say.

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  • cam June 2, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    You need to check your source because your facts aren\’t correct. You should not post things about what you do not know is %100 true and accurate.

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  • Compelled to post June 25, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    I found this list when I searched for Jeremy\’s name, I\’ve read it top to bottom, and I feel horrible about what happened to Eric. I\’ve been having a hard time dealing with the fact that I could have made a difference in Jeremy\’s life over the several years I knew him. I\’m angry as hell about what he did – even more than those who didn\’t know him because he caused so much harm and pain, plus he wasted his own potential in the process. He was a vibrant, kind, engaging 20-something college classmate. But he lacked boundaries and he sought chaos in so many crazy ways that I thought he\’d end up the one seriously injured some day.

    If I had taken an extra minute to be a positive influence for him maybe he would have picked a more responsible lifestyle. Maybe if I had called him out on the less harmful (but still grossly irresponsible) things he did around me… well, maybe it would have helped avoid this tragedy. Maybe getting in his face about why he acted out would have helped him feel like someone understood or maybe I should have shook him and asked him what happened to him to make him act without regard. Instead, I took the easy way out; I chose to drop the friendship so I wouldn\’t be associated with anything that could damage my reputation. I never told him that I liked him a lot but he needed to grow up and get accountable if he wanted my friendship.
    Defending him is for lawyers, not me. I\’m just trying to overcome some guilt because I think I could have made a difference in his, and ultimately in Eric\’s, life. I wish I would have spoken up.

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  • Russ July 24, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    Just got this email back from the DA after inquiring about the case:

    DA case number 2140772, State of Oregon v. Jeremy Jordan, is still in open status with a current trial date of 09/23/08. The senior deputy district attorney assigned to the case is Chuck Sparks. You may reach Mr. Sparks directly at 503-988-3717 or his legal assistant at
    503-988-3268. Mr. Sparks is out of the office at this time but will return next week.

    I\’ll post it in the forums when they come back up. Speaking of, if you read this Johnathan, can you do follow ups as possible on serious injury/death collisions?

    I\’m curious about what\’s going on with the Austin Miller and Jarolimek lawsuits as well as many of the other crash outcomes from the last few years.

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  • Pete July 28, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Thanks very much for the update Russ.

    I think Mr. Jordan should be required daily to follow Eric\’s recovery at http://aceanderic.wordpress.com/.

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  • Susan August 12, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    I can\’t even begin to comment on the selfishness of drunk driving.
    This Jeremy Jordan should never see another day as a free man. Not that he even deserves to be called a man.
    I hope he dies in prison with much suffering.

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  • Duncan August 13, 2008 at 8:21 am

    Pete-
    I really think everyone who drives a car should read this blog- whether or not they drive drunk or recklessly- because what I think about (as a person who drives a car regularly) when I read this blog is what can happen in a moments lapse of attention as easily as in an act of alcoholic stupidity. It reminds me that I do not want to be the cause of that much suffering, and to be attentive when I drive.

    It is good to hear that Eric is doing better. I don\’t know him, but I have been reading the blog regularly.

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  • me August 16, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    I have been reading this faithfully as well and what you say is so true Duncan. I think that perhaps the person that did this should be reading his blog. I think that folks that have done this should be reading the daily blog. It\’s reality. I also noticed that the blog has not been added to today. I hope everything is ok?

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