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A couple of motorized scooter riders who saw fit to cruise down the bike lane NB on SW Murray blvd.
I was riding that direction on my motorcycle this evening and noticed two people zipping down the bike lane on scooters. My first thought was "what the hell? ...That has just got to be illegal, doesn't it?" Seemed like they almost nailed a guy that was coming off the sidewalk to get into the bike lane from the SW Allen intersection. Something tells me that they were legally allowed to ride there due to some technicality, but I cannot remember the exact wording of the ORS. They seemed to be able to go the speed limit as they caught up to me at the light within a few seconds after I stopped at SW Allen. Just watch out on Murray, especially in the evening just after the sun sets! |
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Found this online...
Fact Sheet for Mini-Motorbikes/Scooters Quote:
*My highlighting... this opens up the chance of a local ordnance restricting scooters in the bike lane. I'm not pleased by this, but this is how the state recognizes it... and things could be worse... Check this out: ![]() I saw dis Moke on da scooter all over West Maui... Two Wheels, No Motor... The Way It's Ment To Be... K'Tesh Last edited by K'Tesh; 10-26-2008 at 09:40 PM. |
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Sounds like a couple of yahoos who either are not licensed or are licensed and too chicken to ride in traffic.
If I see them we'll have a talk ---- motor-scooter or Harley - if you don't have the stones to ride in traffic with the cages then get the hell off the road.
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#4
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814.210 Operation of moped on sidewalk or bicycle trail; penalty. (1) A person commits the offense of operation of a moped on a sidewalk or bicycle trail if the person operates a moped upon a sidewalk, a bicycle path or a bicycle lane.
(2) Exemptions to this section are provided under ORS 811.440. (3) The offense described in this section, operation of a moped on a sidewalk or bicycle trail, is a Class D traffic violation. [1983 c.338 §644] 811.440 When motor vehicles may operate on bicycle lane. This section provides exemptions from the prohibitions under ORS 811.435 and 814.210 against operating motor vehicles on bicycle lanes and paths. The following vehicles are not subject to ORS 811.435 and 814.210 under the circumstances described: (1) A person may operate a moped on a bicycle lane that is immediately adjacent to the roadway only while the moped is being exclusively powered by human power. (2) A person may operate a motor vehicle upon a bicycle lane when: (a) Making a turn; (b) Entering or leaving an alley, private road or driveway; or (c) Required in the course of official duty. (3) An implement of husbandry may momentarily cross into a bicycle lane to permit other vehicles to overtake and pass the implement of husbandry. (4) A person may operate a motorized wheelchair on a bicycle lane or path. (5) A person may operate a motor assisted scooter on a bicycle lane or path. (6) A person may operate an electric personal assistive mobility device on a bicycle lane or path. [1983 c.338 §645; 1991 c.417 §1; 2001 c.749 §24; 2003 c.341 §8] Source: http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/ |
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I'm pretty darn sure they were going faster than 24 mph seeing as how the speed limit on Murray is between 40-45 and they caught up to me quickly. It made me do a double and even a triple-take to see them. What is worse is that at SW Allen I saw a police squad car make a left from Allen onto Murray...right past these guys and didn't even notice them. Did not care for that. There are two lanes on Murray either direction. They have the speed to go down the normal lane with other traffic, if others don't like it they can pass them like they do in downtown Portland on Burnside and such. *shakes head*
Last edited by Arem; 10-27-2008 at 09:35 AM. Reason: Fixed a sentence. |
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If your certain that they are exceeding the 24mph speed limit for scooters, and they are a repeat problem, I'd suggest a camera, a cell phone and the Washington Co. Non-Emergency Dispatch (503) 629 0111 be used. I'd also make a note of your current speed (presuming that you have a bike computer).
Might take a while for them to be caught, but when they do, I'm certain they'll not like the results. Happy Hunting! K'Tesh |
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#7
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I'm hoping that if they do get pulled over, they get some education and with concern to riding on the road "@#$% or get off the pot" hopefully they'll be in the lane next time. This is the first time I've seen them. On my motorcycle I glanced down and knew I was going 40 mph at the time and I do happen to have a bike computer on my bicycle so if I happen to see them while out near Murray again I'll be sure to take a snapshot at least with my mobile phone camera. With as wide as they were I'd fear for anybody else riding in the bike lane that wouldn't expect a motorized vehicle to be coming up from behind to make a pass. They'd easily clip somebody.
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Quote:
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Second, when did (5) become part of 801.440? I don't remember that, and I strongly dislike the idea of letting motorized propulsion into the bike lane. I don't mind bikes with "assist" motors, and I grudgingly share with wheelchairs, but if you ask me, scooters are right out. |
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Is an "implement of husbandry" an animal like a horse or cow?
I can think of another definition of "implement of husbandry" but I really think the ORS is referring to movement of farm animals/equipment in rural areas.
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I think you're right, Haven
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