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schavah 10-17-2011 07:33 AM

I see stolen bikes everyday.....
 
Or am I just unfairly judgemental. Portland Bikers....you decied and judge for yourself. I work Tuesday through Saturday at a business exactly at N.E.17th & Columbia Boulevard. I see at the very least 10 homeless men every month Riding BRAND NEW looking or Near New bikes. Some with racks, some without. Now...I know hundreds of people in Portland are out of work and have lost everything they own. But how many are men living along the Columbia slew, or at (NO) Dignity Village on Columbia Blvd. next to the Prison. Most of the men riding these bikes look like they were blown out of a volcano. I look at the Stolen Bikes on this site, then I look at what these men are riding. If any one of these men can produce a sales reciept for the bike they are on...and show me the shelter they live in.....I will give them $100 worth of food. You People who are losing your bikes.....need to figure out a way to take a ride with Law Enforcement ...or Code Enforcement through (NO) Dignity Village. There has got to be at LEAST 1 STOLEN bike there. When I see a homeless guy on a New Looking bike, with the trailer on the back for a little kid....and the trailer is full of scrap metal.....hmmmm... must have traded the wife and kid for freedom. So am I Unfairly Judgemental....or am I seeing a heck of a lot of Stolen bikes every month. You decied and let me know.

edki 10-17-2011 11:55 AM

You're unfairly judgemental. Many of those guys get bikes from places like JOIN or other social service agencies who recognize that having a bike is a major economic advantage if you're homeless. They also make and give away trailers.
And I wouldn't be surprised if there is a stolen bike somewhere in Dignity Village, but it's equally likely that there is a stolen bike in any 'better' class neighborhood. If you can get law enforcement to search an equivalent number of homes in the west hills as there are camps at dignity village and you don't find a stolen bike, I'll buy you $100 worth of hot dogs at Roakes. For instance, it's pretty unlikely that the bikes stolen at the southwest Bikes burglary (http://bikeportland.org/2011/08/30/u...op-theft-58329) are doing time hauling scrap steel.

wsbob 10-17-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by schavah (Post 27624)
Or am I just unfairly judgemental. Portland Bikers....you decied and judge for yourself. I work Tuesday through Saturday at a business exactly at N.E.17th & Columbia Boulevard. I see at the very least 10 homeless men every month Riding BRAND NEW looking or Near New bikes. Some with racks, some without. Now...I know hundreds of people in Portland are out of work and have lost everything they own. But how many are men living along the Columbia slew, or at (NO) Dignity Village on Columbia Blvd. next to the Prison. Most of the men riding these bikes look like they were blown out of a volcano. I look at the Stolen Bikes on this site, then I look at what these men are riding. If any one of these men can produce a sales reciept for the bike they are on...and show me the shelter they live in.....I will give them $100 worth of food. You People who are losing your bikes.....need to figure out a way to take a ride with Law Enforcement ...or Code Enforcement through (NO) Dignity Village. There has got to be at LEAST 1 STOLEN bike there. When I see a homeless guy on a New Looking bike, with the trailer on the back for a little kid....and the trailer is full of scrap metal.....hmmmm... must have traded the wife and kid for freedom. So am I Unfairly Judgemental....or am I seeing a heck of a lot of Stolen bikes every month. You decied and let me know.


As a means of giving everybody a better idea of what you're seeing, any possibility you could have a cheap pocket digital camera with a telephoto lens, with you to snap a few pics of the people you suspect of having stolen bikes, when you see them?

I don't know anything about JOIN that edki refers to, or the kind of bikes they're making available to people. A bike that looks new doesn't necessarily mean that that it's new, good quality or stolen. Some bikes typical of the quality bikes found at department stores or online for cheap, look shiny and new. They're what people that don't have much money tend to get.

If it was me over in your location, I might consider just taking an impromptu coffee/smoke break, walk over to the guys when you see them, say hello, take a casual look at the bikes, maybe ask some questions. That's a fairly low key thing to do, and after all, it's your working neighborhood, so you've got some right to keep tabs on what's going on there.

There seems to be plenty of bikes stolen, so it figures there are going to be some people riding stolen bikes. It's possible the guys you're seeing are stealing the bikes you're seeing them with, but that's about all you could conclude unless you or someone else were to do something to be more certain of how they happen to have the bikes.

Jim E. Hat 04-16-2012 03:19 PM

totally agree with OP on this one... just saw a dude on a Giant Trance who was not a downhill mountian biking affectionado by any means... i will take my profiling spidey senses to the bank on this one...

Magna or Royce Union, you can let slide though...


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