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djkenny
10-05-2006, 02:46 PM
Just moved into PDX from San Jose, CA.

My girlfriend was offered a teaching job in Beaverton and we have joined the rest of her siblings/ family that has been here for 10 yrs, setting camp after completing school in PDX (parents orig from Cottage Grove before moving to CA nearly 30 yrs ago).

We are in SW PDX for now to ease the commute for my sig other. Plan to move more SE near the fam, and my fave places soon enough.

Been planning on getting up here for about 4 yrs or so now, but it is finally REAL.

It would be great to meet some others. I biked, not serious Lycra kind of biking, but survived commuting to work and school in San Jose as well as running errands in the grab and go culture of my hometown.

Big fan of synthpop music, and doing college radio for 7 yrs as well as DJing clubs in SF and SJ CA. If anyone has leads on where to get a show, let me know!

Also worked at animal shelters in Santa Clara and Santa Cruz CA doing everythign from adoptions, management, and community outreach.

The move came rather sudden as the teeaching job allowed us 5 weeks to move. No job on my side as of yet. But looking with a few leads. The market seems to be getting better here.

I ride a Schwinn Cruiser from the early 70's w/ 3 spds that looks right at home here. But also looking into a little lighter and sportier, safer in the rain (steel wheels and old style brakes are not going to cut it in the rainier season) yet utilitarian bike with fenders and racks for grocery shopping and what not. Breezers are nice but a little pricey, the KHS urban X I looked at yesterday seemd to be very affordable but the lower line parts and so so frame made me wonder is forking out another $300 or so bucks might be worth it in the long run. A used road bike set up with fenders, a slightly higher goose kneck, and proper racks and what not might be a better choice. ?

If anyone wants to meet up, or has a recommendation on an event to hook up with others please pass it on.

Thanks!

Kenny

cap'n pastry
10-06-2006, 10:58 AM
Welcome to town DJK!
Good luck with the employment and finding bike-friendly lodgings. The terrain and development patterns in SW Ptld definitely pose challenges for bike commuters (though you can find a map of bike routes in SW at http://www.portlandonline.com/shared/cfm/image.cfm?id=101383).

To meet up with folks you can check the Shift calendar (http://calendar.shifttobikes.org/), and check the listserve (access it from www.shift2bikes.org). Shift is a communication network designed to help folks promote their bike culture events - everything from rides to Move-by-Bike to Breakfast on the Bridges.

If you're free tomorrow you might check out the benefit concert and dance party for Community Exchange Cycle Touring Club:
http://www.exchangecycletours.org/WorldExotica.htm ; also check -
http://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/shift/2006-10/msg00021.html (details discount options for getting into party)

This group also runs free bike repair clinics (check their website) and folks there (or at the party) could offer tips on finding the bike you need at a reasonable price.

Best o' luck!

Rixtir
10-06-2006, 04:40 PM
from San Jose too. What kind of synthpop?

Good luck on the job hunt, it's been tough here for me (the few available jobs have seemed to be service industry jobs). Maybe things are getting better now, dunno.

Bikes: Check Craigslist for a large selection of used bikes. Road bike or mountain bike will work, but the wider the tires the easier you'll take the potholes. Best choice would be a cyclocross, but might be a little pricey. If you go with a road bike, make sure there's clearance for fenders, you'll need them. If you go with a mountain bike, avoid suspension, and remove the knobbies and add commuter slicks. Other good things to have: alloy wheels, a rack or two, waterproof panniers, lights. If you have an internally-geared hub, the brakes will work better in the rain, but not as good as cantis or u-brakes when dry. On the other hand, if you have a disc brake, you won't have to worry about the rain. Steel wheels won't cut it in the rain.

A MUST-HAVE: a **GOOD** u-lock. DO NOT use a cable lock-- you bike WILL disappear. Buy a good u-lock like the Kryptonite New York or Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit and the thieves will move on to the bike that's only locked with a cable lock.

Good luck, and welcome!

djkenny
10-09-2006, 11:41 AM
Hi Rixtir

Nice to meet you!

What part of San Jo are you from? What brought you out here?

Modern synthpop underground bands, and I also like classic new wave synthy stuff (what I grew up listening to).

I know most of what you mentioned bike wise. Been a little obsessive about searching what makes an enjoyable commuter here in PDX (rain proof panniers, no steel rims, etc). I sold a nearly new Specialized mountian bike before moving here because it would have not been comfortable or enjoyable as a daily rider. To much downforce from the nobby tires and I am not really a huge fan of twist grip sram shifters either. Prior I had a Specialized Hardrock, of a earlier 90's vintage and actually like it BETTER because it didnt have twist grips or front shocks.

My fave bike to ride in my lifetime was the old Peugeot Carbolite 103 basic mid 80's 10 spd I had bought new as a 11 yr old kid. Nothing racey really, just handled well and was fun to ride for many yrs.

REI has a nifty disc brake equipped urban warrior that had interested me, the Buzz
http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=48075181&storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1&color=BLACK&img=/media/863284.jpg&view=large
The mountain bike frame geometry may have just been a wee bit too tight for me. However, they are also on sale for under $550, or over $100 off so they still made budget. Maybe I would get used to the geometry.

I think I am really split right now between wanting a more upright Breezer commuter type style ( like the Trek L200 that I cannot seem to find anywhere for sale ) or a traditional road bike that can provide more speed and add some racks, bells, and lights.

Redline has a neat entry level sport road bike that is set up with all the holes in place for panniers and bags. I liked it because the brakes were also on the bars. Nice for when you just want to sit upright. A few shops including the one on Hawthorne carried this bike. A little out of budget (over $600), but if it is enjoyable to ride it might be worth it.

At this point I think it comes down to what "feels good" to ride, shifts smoothly and moves swiftly enough. The racks and lights can be added if needed.

The lower line component, but steel frame equipped and fendered out Kona Smoke is another bike I want to ride. I like how my old Schwinn absorbs bumps, I assume the Kona double butted frame should provide similar comfort. At $350 they are a nice bike and could likely be upgraded in time as budget allows. Maybe it will be a better ride (having a less stiff frame) than the KHS Urban X I rode recently?

With all the theft here in PDX I think having the recommended Krypto lock and a under $350 bike would be a good move.

Thanks cap'n pastry for the links!!

Rixtir
10-09-2006, 07:36 PM
Hi Rixtir

Nice to meet you!

What part of San Jo are you from? What brought you out here?Most recently, from Almaden valley. Lived downtown near SJS for a few years, grew up in the Evergreen area. I moved here to go to law school.

Modern synthpop underground bands, and I also like classic new wave synthy stuff (what I grew up listening to).Same here. Synthpop, punk, somehow they're different genres that nevertheless work for me. Were you a Live 105 listener before they turned to crap in 99-2000?

I know most of what you mentioned bike wise. Been a little obsessive about searching what makes an enjoyable commuter here in PDX (rain proof panniers, no steel rims, etc). I sold a nearly new Specialized mountian bike before moving here because it would have not been comfortable or enjoyable as a daily rider. To much downforce from the nobby tires and I am not really a huge fan of twist grip sram shifters either. Prior I had a Specialized Hardrock, of a earlier 90's vintage and actually like it BETTER because it didnt have twist grips or front shocks.

My fave bike to ride in my lifetime was the old Peugeot Carbolite 103 basic mid 80's 10 spd I had bought new as a 11 yr old kid. Nothing racey really, just handled well and was fun to ride for many yrs.

REI has a nifty disc brake equipped urban warrior that had interested me, the Buzz
http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=48075181&storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1&color=BLACK&img=/media/863284.jpg&view=large
The mountain bike frame geometry may have just been a wee bit too tight for me. However, they are also on sale for under $550, or over $100 off so they still made budget. Maybe I would get used to the geometry.

I think I am really split right now between wanting a more upright Breezer commuter type style ( like the Trek L200 that I cannot seem to find anywhere for sale ) or a traditional road bike that can provide more speed and add some racks, bells, and lights.

Redline has a neat entry level sport road bike that is set up with all the holes in place for panniers and bags. I liked it because the brakes were also on the bars. Nice for when you just want to sit upright. A few shops including the one on Hawthorne carried this bike. A little out of budget (over $600), but if it is enjoyable to ride it might be worth it.

At this point I think it comes down to what "feels good" to ride, shifts smoothly and moves swiftly enough. The racks and lights can be added if needed.

The lower line component, but steel frame equipped and fendered out Kona Smoke is another bike I want to ride. I like how my old Schwinn absorbs bumps, I assume the Kona double butted frame should provide similar comfort. At $350 they are a nice bike and could likely be upgraded in time as budget allows. Maybe it will be a better ride (having a less stiff frame) than the KHS Urban X I rode recently?

With all the theft here in PDX I think having the recommended Krypto lock and a under $350 bike would be a good move.

Thanks cap'n pastry for the links!!Sounds like you need to test-ride a lot of bikes!

djkenny
10-11-2006, 11:42 AM
The KHS Urban X 1st caught my eye for it's super low $300 price, decent brakes, and having the accesories that would cost me extra like the r rack and fenders. I also liked the looks of the bike as well.

There is a model right above the Urban X in the line up called the Express (this could confuse someone being so close in name).
http://www.khsbicycles.com/08_urban_xp_06.htm

A friend recommended bikes $350-400 because they would likely come with better componentry and 700cc wheels. The Urban X I liked so much for it's nifty commuter features, but I can buy those for little more. Also, I like the idea of a steel frame that absorbs some bumps. It seems the Urban Express has a Reynolds 520 frame, the larger 700cc wheels, and appears to also have a better gearing on the bars.

I am not a fan of Sram twist grips really that are part of the Urban X.

Plus the express is a mere $40 more. Sounds worth it! Fenders and a rear rack would add only like $55 additional.

Would this be a good bike to consider ($400-450 with the added rack and fenders) over some of the $600+ Urban bikes by Gary Fisher and the like? I am not so sure how much this bike weighs yet. There is some pretty nice bikes out there on sale for under $600.

Rixtir
10-11-2006, 12:39 PM
I think it depends on at least three things: 1) What's your budget? 2) What will your commute be like? 3) Will the bike you're looking at meet your riding goals?

In my opinion, and this is only an opinion, the best new bikes out there for the commuting job would be either cyclocross or touring bikes. For example, the Surly Cross Check (http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn-yR8) cyclocross bike or the Surly Long Haul Trucker (http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/surly-lht.html) touring bike. I'm just using Surly as an example; there are other manufacturers out there. The problem is a cyclocross or tourer may be on the wrong end of your budget.

Those types of bikes would be well-suited for long commutes. If you're just traveling a couple of miles in-town, then the bikes you're looking at will probably do the job OK. To me, they're more city bike than commuter, but for short distances in the city, that shouldn't matter. That's what they're made for. I'm converting one bike to a city bike myself.

Personally, for commuting, I'm converting a used mountain bike to a commuter. The cost so far has been free; with some labor and some minor parts, I'll have a bullet-proof customized commuter for under $300.

It all depends on what you want your bike to do.

djkenny
10-16-2006, 11:00 AM
I think I am finding the trigger shifters very appealing. I like the action of forward switch to higher gear, and back for a hill climbing gear. It feels more intuitive and very positive. I would be willing to get a bike and have a set of Sram, or similar brand to the ones I sampled on a recent new bike shop bike.

Budget? I would really like to keep it under $325. Options range from buying used and having done what I need to complete and upgrade the bike, or getting a lower line new urban commuter from a manufacture like Kona or KHS.

If the gears suck, then I assume I could replace those. If I want disc brakes instead, it wouldnt cost too much.

Maybe carbon forks and seat post on a Kona as the budget allows could help smooth out the ride as well?

Originally I was pretty set on spending $800 on a Breezer. But honestly, I just cannot justify it. The bike will be rained on, could potentially get stolen, etc.

The entry level mint cond cool looking gry/bk/red Specialized Hardrock with the suntour shock mountain bike was already sold in CA before I moved, mainly a space issue (completley ran out of room in the 16 footer truck w/ the girlfriend and I's stuff combined). Sold it on CL for $90 in 25 minutes. I think in PDX it would have gone for nearly $150. People here are more into bikes and pay (too much?) more for used ones. Selling wasnt to big a woop to me anyway. I hated the shock and the twist gears did little for me to. Sure tires cold have been swapped for slicks.

I almost had a heart attack when I saw a Huffy 5 yr old crappy mountain bike on Hawthorne for sale at $60!!
Granted, nearly 2 weeks later now, it is STILL locked to that pole awaiting someone hard up for a bike and seeing $60 as worth it.

It appears until we move from the SW Hillsdale area, I could be looking at commuting 5 miles one way, and bussing it back home in the eve. Too hilly to return here, but it wouldnt take more than 35 minutes to ride to the inner SE area or downtown perhaps (depending on where I locate the "job").

It is so great to be able to gracefully cruise down hills to go to jobs in cool urban areas. 1st thought I was too far out, now I am thinking it is a fun easy going downhill commute. The busses are only 2 blocks from home.

This is a great place to live.

A clean and well sorted classic 80's-early 90's touring bike or road bike set up for touring is likely my 1st interest. Starting with a $75-150 bike and adding what I need to upgrade or make it a solid commuter sounds pretty kean.

The new urban bikes for under $350 are more an interest because they are cheap reliable ways to get an all around bike from the get-go off a floor in the LBS.

A old road bike w/ taller kneck for a more upright stance when wanted, and a set of or one rear kitty litter box container sounds useful. I have been studying commuter bikes on my rides into SE over the Hawthorne brige and I thought this was a great set up.

The riders were upright (I have a bad back form a recent car wreck). But, with the drop bars if I needed to speed up I would have the option. Trigger shifters could be mounted to if i like, right?

Those litter containers seemed not only a low budget, environmentally friendly idea, but also great for the rain. Two of those could hold cd's, and headphones for DJing to!

Rixtir
10-16-2006, 12:58 PM
A clean and well sorted classic 80's-early 90's touring bike or road bike set up for touring is likely my 1st interest. Starting with a $75-150 bike and adding what I need to upgrade or make it a solid commuter sounds pretty kean.Figure more like $150 and up. But that would make a great choice for a commuter.

Here's another great choice for a commuter: Surly LHT (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/221454314.html). I don't know if that's a good price or not for a Surly, but it seems to be about market price, maybe a bit below. Higher than your ideal budget. And of course, that stem/bar setup is ridiculous, and would have to go. BTW, I'm 5'8", and I ride a 58 cm bike. That ridiculous stem/bar setup is jury-rigged for a taller rider, obviously.

And for comparison: Surly LHT frameset (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/221483299.html).

Surly LHT (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/surly-lht.html)

Rixtir
10-16-2006, 01:13 PM
A clean and well sorted classic 80's-early 90's touring bike or road bike set up for touring is likely my 1st interest. Starting with a $75-150 bike and adding what I need to upgrade or make it a solid commuter sounds pretty kean.A decent price, but a drive to get it:Motobecane Mirage Sport (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/220618576.html).

Similar quality, but overpriced by about $100: Raleigh Grand Prix (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/220410655.html)

djkenny
10-16-2006, 01:54 PM
That Surly looks really nice, and worth the extra dollars spent likely. Same price as the Redlines, brand new, however. But it likely has a little better componentry.

The Raleigh sounds right on, if a little overpriced by a minimum of $100. What is with the poster's PR like cussing? Too crazy like. I wouldnt want to call him because he sounds like a nut.

I am a 50-51 cm meter frame. Just a tad over 5'8 tall.

Rixtir
10-18-2006, 02:46 PM
I am a 50-51 cm meter frame. Just a tad over 5'8 tall.I'm 5'8", and I ride a 58cm road bike. It depends on the vintage of your bike. 1970s, maybe early 80s, that 58cm works for me. later vintages would probably be better at 54 cm for me, because of proportional sizing on later vintages.

I think that 50-51 would be too small for you on a road bike, unless you have a small inseam. It would probably be about right for a mountain bike. All you need is an inch or two of standover clearance between you and the top bar. Straddle the bike, and lift into your crotch. If there's an inch or two of clearance between the tire and the ground, the bike fits.

Rixtir
10-18-2006, 05:45 PM
Probably a good bike for your needs:

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/bik/222592704.html

and probably gone by the time you see this...

djkenny
10-19-2006, 11:43 AM
That figures. What was it?

Rixtir
10-22-2006, 04:59 PM
That figures. What was it?I forget!

But it was good quality for very little money ($20)... a Univega mtb, if I remember correctly.

EDIT: It needed work, though, but still a bargain at that price.

Rixtir
10-22-2006, 05:08 PM
Here's a great deal: Novara Randonee (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/222960370.html). Not sure what size it is, but this would be a great commuter.

And something cheaper: a 70s vintage Motobecane (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/223432594.html).

And another univega (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/bik/223785786.html).

And another Univega... (http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/224165343.html)

And something bulletproof (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/224194753.html)

And something interesting... (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/224013170.html)

And a great French bargain (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/224250039.html)

something cheap... (http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/224098951.html)

and something with French cool... (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/223567815.html)

and something with English cool (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/224290670.html).

Rixtir
10-24-2006, 05:06 PM
Another Randonee. (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/225018886.html)

cranky_pedaller
11-07-2006, 02:25 PM
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djkenny
11-13-2006, 12:49 PM
I went to Veloce and was sized at around 53-54 cent on modern Redline Roadbikes. I touched, but not uncomfortably at the crotch ball zone. With a longer upper torso this size was recommended. I thought there had to be more space between my crotch and the frame, but I guess you make a little compromise based on how you drape the handle bars in length???

Whatever this info is worth,I am still lookng for a nice commuter road bike or amsterdam style fendered out one.