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K'Tesh
09-24-2008, 02:57 PM
My Mom is now riding her new road bike, and she feels she needs a kickstand.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/2804565357_f18e23b617.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ufobike/2804565357/)
Mom and her new Bike

Am I being a purist when I say no, road bikes are not designed/supposed to have kickstands? I don't even know if it has any kind of mounting for one.

Feedback requested...

Thanks!
K'Tesh

vincentpaul
09-24-2008, 03:46 PM
Judging from your picture, you should be able to find one that'll fit.
Anything that makes someone comfortable with their bike and gets them out riding is a good thing.
In the meantime, show her the rotate the pedal back onto a curb trick. There's almost always a curb handy.

bonny790
09-24-2008, 04:26 PM
Why not? That's like saying they're not designed or intended to have lights, fenders, reflectors, etc. There's no engineering reason not to, it's just the a fad the designers are going through right now by omitting mounts for all the above. But then I'm all about function over form. (I'd be more concerned with the Taco Bell cup in the holder than anything else!:D(kidding))

K'Tesh
09-24-2008, 05:25 PM
(I'd be more concerned with the Taco Bell cup in the holder than anything else!:D(kidding))

OK! Which one of you jokers hacked my computer and photoshopped that in?!

No, really, she had a pintos and beans, and water.

Me, I had a bean burrito and a medic (Dr. Pepper).

Eat at Taco Bell, Get Gas Free!
K'Tesh

OldCog
09-24-2008, 08:59 PM
As always .... Mother knows best !

Of course she needs a kick-stand - any woman comfortable enough with herself and her bike to ride with a Taco Bell cup knows what she wants.

And here it is:
http://www.rei.com/product/724326

This is the same unit I have on my road bike (Giant FCR2) and it works just swell. Because I think a bike should be able to stand on its own !

I keep a couple of old inner-tubes around my shop --- in this case I cut some to act as padding under the metal clamps to protect the paint:D

K'Tesh
09-24-2008, 09:29 PM
I think a bike should be able to stand on its own !

I think that a road bike shouldn't 'cause when it's not being used, it's two tired... ;)

Rubberside Down!
K'Tesh

the Wumpus
09-28-2008, 03:20 PM
That's a shiny bike! I can certainly understand why she doesn't want to toss it on its side in the weeds, have it flopping around in the lock on a rack, or prop it up on a pedal only to bash the frame on the curb when a wheel slips on some sand or someone brushes up against it. Not that you're being a purist; most road bikes aren't blessed with kickstands. They generally don't have platform pedals and toe clips without straps, either. Or wheel reflectors. Most don't have fenders. Or triple chainrings.

Get the kickstand. Love the kickstand. Only thing better than a good kickstand is a good lock. Where's the lock?

edki
09-28-2008, 04:43 PM
Whatever Mom wants, Mom should get.

K'Tesh
09-28-2008, 08:25 PM
They told her that as it's an extra small road bike, it's not really designed for one. Yes we understand there are other options, but for now the matter is dropped.

BTW, she does have a lock, but as this was not a long trip, she didn't pack it.

Thanks for all the input!
K'Tesh

K'Tesh
09-29-2008, 10:12 AM
I remembered about the clickstand (http://www.click-stand.com/)...

http://www.click-stand.com/images/biketomsbeforetour2_ti6u_h7fv.png (http://www.click-stand.com/)

I'll see what she thinks about that... I also remember having a flickstand when I was a teen...

http://wermenh.com/biketour/flickstand.jpg (http://wermenh.com/biketour/preparation.html)

But it appears that they aren't being made anymore.

Rubberside Down!
K'Tesh

lynnef
09-29-2008, 11:03 AM
Flickstands are findable on eBay from time to time, but are mutually exclusive with fenders.

Maybe a kickstand that mounts on the chainstay?

fredlf
09-29-2008, 03:37 PM
Actually, a kickstand can damage a lightweight aluminum or carbon frame where it clamps across the stays. Plus, if the bike has panniers, is on an incline or it's windy, the k-s won't work. You can *always* find something to lean your bike against.

Have her read Jim Langley's bike parking 101: http://www.jimlangley.net/crank/basicstuff.html#bp1

She'll never miss the k-s. After all, you don't want your mom looking like a Fred (trust me).

sincerely,
Fred

blueskies
09-30-2008, 08:27 AM
What you really could do to help your Mom is get rid of the cages on the pedals!!! Help her go clipless.

K'Tesh
09-30-2008, 09:18 AM
Mom is definatly not a purist...

Mom is worried about falling and doesn't like the idea of being physically attached to the bike (she even removed the toeclip's straps), so the toeclips are going to stay for a while... and she wanted to be able to carry waterbottles, so she had those added.

Rubberside Down!
K'Tesh

blueskies
10-01-2008, 09:22 AM
Mom is definatly not a purist...

Mom is worried about falling and doesn't like the idea of being physically attached to the bike, so the toeclips are going to stay for a while... K'Tesh

That's why I'm suggesting that you introduce her to clipless shoes & pedals. I think she's more likely to fall with her feet strapped in. Clipless pedals are much easier to get out of quickly then toeclips. If a rider's inexperienced, they appear more difficult, but in practice they release much more easily then pulling your foot out of toeclips.

If my mom started to ride, I'd let her ride with her street shoes on platform pedals, or I'd teacher her to ride with clipless pedals/shoes, but I'd steal those straps & never, ever let her ride with them.

If some miracle of technology has made current clipless strap systems very easy to slide out of, then never mind all of the above. :)

djasonpenney
10-01-2008, 11:15 AM
There is actually a real danger of your foot slipping off the pedal if it's not attached, either causing a nasty spill or giving you one heck of a bruise on your shin as the pedal spins around and whacks you....

Mom is definatly not a purist...

Mom is worried about falling and doesn't like the idea of being physically attached to the bike (she even removed the toeclip's straps), so the toeclips are going to stay for a while... and she wanted to be able to carry waterbottles, so she had those added.

Rubberside Down!
K'Tesh

vincentpaul
10-01-2008, 12:16 PM
There is actually a real danger of your foot slipping off the pedal if it's not attached, either causing a nasty spill or giving you one heck of a bruise on your shin as the pedal spins around and whacks you....

BMX pedals. I don't leave home w/out them. A year and a half of commuting and I cant remember ever having my foot slip off. The "driving" foot is the only one that needs pressure anyway. Funny how those guys do all radical maneuvers w/ no clips, isn't it?

lynnef
10-01-2008, 02:21 PM
Powergrips. (http://www.amazon.com/BPP-Power-Grips/dp/B000ADZ0IO) Try those. I've got some ready to go on Gitane, because riding unattached to the pedals has already created a nice scar on my calf...

Plus starting up from a stop is always fun, because I can't pull the pedal back up with my foot :)

brewcaster
10-02-2008, 04:25 PM
I can hang with all those clipped into their pedals on a daily basis. I don't believe the hype that you get THAT much more out of your pedal while being locked in.

I rather take the chance on losing trace amounts of potential pedal than to be locked into my pedals.

And I don't have to wear special funny looking shoes to ride my bike.

To each his own.

wyeast
10-03-2008, 07:32 AM
I dunno why a roadie shouldn't have a kickstand. My wife's commuter has one, it attaches to the chainstay, since her bike is also on the smaller side. I've seen ones now that clamp on both the chain and seat stays, making it more stable and less apt to slide around to damage the frame.

She could also get an axle stand, but that might be too wonderfully fredilicious for her. :D