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cecilanne
08-13-2007, 06:30 PM
OK, so I did a ride today that was, um, hilly. The problem is that I don't know exactly how hilly. Before I undertake a tedious redrawing of the 92 mile route on some web-based program, I am wondering whether anyone out there may already have the info I seek. it doesn't have to be exact (frankly, I couldn't tell you the exact route, anyway, since I was just following a friend). But let's assume a route that started in SE PDX, took the Hwy 26 path to Beaverton, then Wilshire to Marlowe to Park to Walker to Nike, through the Nike campus and various suburban streets to SW 209th to Clark Hill to Scholl's ferry to Seifert to Mtn. Home to Kruger to Chapman to Leander to Bell to North Valley to Bald Peak Rd., up and over Bald Peak to Laurelwood (DOWN Laurelwood, thank the spirits) to Spring Hill to Gaston to Old Hwy 47 to Spring Hill to Fern Hill to Geiger through flat Hillsboro regions to West Union/Thompson up and over Skyline and back to SE PDX via Thompson/Cornell, etc. Whew. I get tired just thinking about it. Anyway, any educated guesses would be welcome . . .

wyeast
08-13-2007, 07:07 PM
Ok, let's see if this helps a little...

SE PDX... depends on where you are. Clinton Park is 200ft, Ladd's Addition is 70ft.

Downtown - 40ft at waterfront, 220ft at Vista Tunnel

26 peaks around 780ft at Sylvan.

26 and Wilshire, around 450ft.

Wilshire and Marlow - 400ft

Park and Cedar Hills - 260ft

Park and Walker - 200ft

pretty much low 200's till Clark Hill, peaking around 320 or so, then down to 175 at Scholls Ferry, dipping to 150 then back up to 180 at Seiffert.

Seiffert & Mtn Home - 620ft


Mtn Home & Krueger - 826ft

Kreuger & Chapman 775ft

Chapman & Leander 925ft

Leander crests @ 1000, then down to 830 at Bell

Bell & North Valley 350ft

Then you lose me a little because Bell, North Valley, and Hillsboro Hwy (leading to Bald Peak) all intersect at the same time... but Bald Peak crests at 1600, then down to 1100 at Laurelwood.

Laurelwood & Spring Hill 200ft

Spring Hill & Gaston 260ft

floating around 150-250 all the way to West Union

Thompson & Saltzmann 350

Thompson crests around 1100, then 900 at Cornell.

Cornell & Lovejoy about 280ft

all via Google Earth.

Hope that helps!

cecilanne
08-13-2007, 07:29 PM
Thanks - that does help -

Crackazilly
08-15-2007, 11:27 AM
I have the same problem with hills. I don't do very well. I usually plot my course using http://www.allsportgps.com/Default.aspx and it graphs out the elevation so I know if the hills are "too" steep for me. It's easy to use. Good luck.

Ender

cecilanne
08-15-2007, 01:59 PM
I have the same problem with hills. I don't do very well. I usually plot my course using http://www.allsportgps.com/Default.aspx and it graphs out the elevation so I know if the hills are "too" steep for me. It's easy to use. Good luck.

Ender

I don't have a problem with hills - the more the better - I just like to know how high they were once I've finished :-)

I tried to graph the route on this site, but I seem to be unable to find where on this application the elevation graphs - could that be because I am runnng Safari and the site doesn't support it?

Jakelin
08-16-2007, 06:55 AM
If you use bikely.com and map out your route there is an elevation button that will graph out the elevation for you. The cool thing about bikely is you can save the route, name it, put comments and let other people see the route so they can ride it if they want to. It's also a cool place to look up new routes as well. The more users the more routes.

cecilanne
08-16-2007, 07:31 AM
I have the same problem with Bikely that I did with the Allsport tool - again I think the problem is that the program is not compatible with Safari (Bikely actually tells me that when I sign on . . .). Oh well.

haggis
08-16-2007, 07:32 AM
Is there a way to print out those bikely routes short of a screen capture? I'm not seeing one, but then I'm struggling to adapt to new glasses so I might be missing an obvious link or something...

Haven_kd7yct
08-16-2007, 09:33 AM
Haggis, I think there's a button hidden somewhere along the top that will show you the "Cue sheet" (basically, the written directions with mileages), and it will let you print from there.

I love Bikely, now I'm going to go check out the allsports site and see how much I'll love it, too!

Ender: Hills can suck. But I've discovered how to be successful at them: a) relax. b) breath. c) get in a rythm and try to keep it going. d) there's no shame in walking. I've also heard that your mental outlook on hills can influence how you do, so try to think good thoughts before the hill (or at least, don't think about how hard it's going to be, maybe it won't be so hard). Best of all, once you get to the top, you get to go down! :)

cecilanne
08-16-2007, 11:33 AM
d) there's no shame in walking.

I agree there is no shame in walking, but it is an inefficient use of your time and energy - the technique I have found most effective is to stop, dismount, shake out your legs and rest a little, and then start up again. You will be surprised to find that you have an easier time pedaling after that, and you will get further and use less energy than you would pushing your bike up a hill. Now go find some hills and practice :-)

haggis
08-16-2007, 08:27 PM
Haggis, I think there's a button hidden somewhere along the top that will show you the "Cue sheet" (basically, the written directions with mileages), and it will let you print from there.

THANK YOU!

Haven_kd7yct
08-17-2007, 09:39 AM
I agree there is no shame in walking, but it is an inefficient use of your time and energy - the technique I have found most effective is to stop, dismount, shake out your legs and rest a little, and then start up again. You will be surprised to find that you have an easier time pedaling after that, and you will get further and use less energy than you would pushing your bike up a hill. Now go find some hills and practice :-)

Cecilanne, you are my hero. :) I'm doing the Vineride this weekend and there are some good hills that I'll be climbing (and climbing and climbing), so I'll be taking your advice to heart!! :)

cecilanne
08-23-2007, 06:06 AM
I'm doing the Vineride this weekend and there are some good hills that I'll be climbing (and climbing and climbing) :)

So how did it go? As I recall from year's past, the climb up (and rocket down) Eola Hill is a bit of fun . . .

Haven_kd7yct
08-23-2007, 09:05 AM
I did the 67-mile ride, and the big Eola Hill torture-fest is part of the 100 (near the end of the 32-mile loop that hooks back up with the 67).

Still, there are some hills on North Valley and Laughlin roads that were pretty hairy. I took my time, relaxed, paced myself... and had no problems. Even that bad steep mother quarter-mile before the turn onto Chehalem wasn't too bad. :) I like going downhill, but you gotta go up first.

Now, my boyfriend did the 100; he's part mountain goat, so he flew up Eola Hill and came into the rest area we were meeting at with a huge grin on his face.

:) Sorry, Haggis, for the threadjack!! :)