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	<title>Comments on: ODOT charts course for a non-highway future</title>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://bikeportland.org/2010/06/03/odot-charts-course-for-a-less-highway-future-33844#comment-1565216</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 04:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a new public sector employee (working for the City), I have a sense for how this could change over the long term with retirements leading to new positions that become multimodally focused. 

A recipe for more rapid change would include the hiring of managers in leadership positions that will direct staff to consider all modes, finding ways to make the rank and file more cognizant of people on bicycles. Change is hard and paradigm shifts like Achterman is seeking at ODOT are more difficult and we&#039;re fortunate to have her leadership guiding the state in this regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a new public sector employee (working for the City), I have a sense for how this could change over the long term with retirements leading to new positions that become multimodally focused. </p>
<p>A recipe for more rapid change would include the hiring of managers in leadership positions that will direct staff to consider all modes, finding ways to make the rank and file more cognizant of people on bicycles. Change is hard and paradigm shifts like Achterman is seeking at ODOT are more difficult and we're fortunate to have her leadership guiding the state in this regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Overtaxed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overtaxed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 03:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like ODOT has &quot;extra&quot; money burning a hole in its pocket.  Oh, no! don&#039;t save it, lets build bike paths! ya, like that&#039;s an economic job creater.  How are working people going to manage in the winter on a frikin&#039; bike?  Portland isn&#039;t it weird, its insane.  How does creating worthless bike pathes create a &quot;liveable city&quot;.  It doesn&#039;t. Whats a plumber supposed to do, carry their gear on a bike?! of course not, instead they&#039;ll be stuck in traffic because the road was sucked up by bike paths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like ODOT has "extra" money burning a hole in its pocket.  Oh, no! don't save it, lets build bike paths! ya, like that's an economic job creater.  How are working people going to manage in the winter on a frikin' bike?  Portland isn't it weird, its insane.  How does creating worthless bike pathes create a "liveable city".  It doesn't. Whats a plumber supposed to do, carry their gear on a bike?! of course not, instead they'll be stuck in traffic because the road was sucked up by bike paths.</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
		<link>http://bikeportland.org/2010/06/03/odot-charts-course-for-a-less-highway-future-33844#comment-1565079</link>
		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People like Achterman who are thinking hard and using ingenuity to find alternative transportation solutions deserve great respect. Thanks for shining a light on the kind of individuals who are making Oregon less car-centric and more walking and biking friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like Achterman who are thinking hard and using ingenuity to find alternative transportation solutions deserve great respect. Thanks for shining a light on the kind of individuals who are making Oregon less car-centric and more walking and biking friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: q`Tzal</title>
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		<dc:creator>q`Tzal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 12:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;... doesn&#039;t ODOT Region 1 (Portland Metro) have a person (Basil Christopher) devoted to bike/ped. concerns?&lt;/i&gt;

Perhaps but a transportation department that thinks that it is a good idea to place concrete barriers in the middle of a pedestrian transfer area to mass transit with the only distinguishing excuse (every other reason applies to neatly ANY intersection) being &quot;well ... it&#039;s a highway that&#039;s why&quot; &lt;b&gt;needs oversight.&lt;/b&gt; Oversight that can look at every project that benefits autos and points out how it affects pedestrians and cycles.
In a way that matters and actually has an affect.
Fund these people, not the projects, and we might get somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>... doesn't ODOT Region 1 (Portland Metro) have a person (Basil Christopher) devoted to bike/ped. concerns?</i></p>
<p>Perhaps but a transportation department that thinks that it is a good idea to place concrete barriers in the middle of a pedestrian transfer area to mass transit with the only distinguishing excuse (every other reason applies to neatly ANY intersection) being "well ... it's a highway that's why" <b>needs oversight.</b> Oversight that can look at every project that benefits autos and points out how it affects pedestrians and cycles.<br />
In a way that matters and actually has an affect.<br />
Fund these people, not the projects, and we might get somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Griffith</title>
		<link>http://bikeportland.org/2010/06/03/odot-charts-course-for-a-less-highway-future-33844#comment-1564942</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Griffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A well developed Active Transportation System encourages community-centric neighborhoods and helps support a thriving, livable city.

But freight does need to get from here to there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A well developed Active Transportation System encourages community-centric neighborhoods and helps support a thriving, livable city.</p>
<p>But freight does need to get from here to there.</p>
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		<title>By: bikieboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bikieboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 01:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;ODOT currently has one person on their entire 500-plus person staff devoted to managing the biking and walking projects for the entire state: Sheila Lyons.&quot;

Jonathan, doesn&#039;t ODOT Region 1 (Portland Metro) have a person (Basil Christopher) devoted to bike/ped. concerns?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"ODOT currently has one person on their entire 500-plus person staff devoted to managing the biking and walking projects for the entire state: Sheila Lyons."</p>
<p>Jonathan, doesn't ODOT Region 1 (Portland Metro) have a person (Basil Christopher) devoted to bike/ped. concerns?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Maus (Publisher/Editor)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Maus (Publisher/Editor)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark C,

I just edited and added to that sentence.  She made a point to tell me she won&#039;t ask for new F/T employees... it will be a matter of transferring existing ODOT staff over to non-highway positions.  the ODOT Director&#039;s office is aware of the request and is studying whether or not it is feasible and if/how to carry it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark C,</p>
<p>I just edited and added to that sentence.  She made a point to tell me she won't ask for new F/T employees... it will be a matter of transferring existing ODOT staff over to non-highway positions.  the ODOT Director's office is aware of the request and is studying whether or not it is feasible and if/how to carry it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Hawley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Hawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great policy reporting! I&#039;m in the public sector and I actually understand what some of this stuff means; it&#039;s very hard to convey clearly. You and Gail Achterman have done a great job here, and OMG she knows that criteria is the plural of criterion. \o/ 

(Gives me a lot of hope for her as a communicator, and, since communication is at the very heart of what she&#039;s trying to do, it gives me a lot of hope for the future of biking in Oregon.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great policy reporting! I'm in the public sector and I actually understand what some of this stuff means; it's very hard to convey clearly. You and Gail Achterman have done a great job here, and OMG she knows that criteria is the plural of criterion. \o/ </p>
<p>(Gives me a lot of hope for her as a communicator, and, since communication is at the very heart of what she's trying to do, it gives me a lot of hope for the future of biking in Oregon.)</p>
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		<title>By: A.K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they certainly need to take note of it.

As more and more people cram into our cities, an effective way to basically get more &quot;highway and car&quot; space without building more streets is to get more people onto bikes, or using mass transit.

It just seems (to me, someone who has never worked in transportation) that dollar for dollar, it would be easier to get more people biking by providing tax incentives, safe routes, etc. But the political will needs to be there to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they certainly need to take note of it.</p>
<p>As more and more people cram into our cities, an effective way to basically get more "highway and car" space without building more streets is to get more people onto bikes, or using mass transit.</p>
<p>It just seems (to me, someone who has never worked in transportation) that dollar for dollar, it would be easier to get more people biking by providing tax incentives, safe routes, etc. But the political will needs to be there to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Achterman said as they work on the budget for 2011-2013, she plans to ask for more staff.&quot;

Good luck with that, considering the state&#039;s gaping budget hole. Heck, even some Republicans are trying to shield schools from the full impact of the cuts (which I can&#039;t say I disagree with), so everything else may be really pinched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Achterman said as they work on the budget for 2011-2013, she plans to ask for more staff."</p>
<p>Good luck with that, considering the state's gaping budget hole. Heck, even some Republicans are trying to shield schools from the full impact of the cuts (which I can't say I disagree with), so everything else may be really pinched.</p>
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