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	<title>Comments on: News analysis: BTA at a turning point with or without Bricker</title>
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		<title>By: BikePortland.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; BTA: No comment on Poyourow resignation rumor</title>
		<link>http://bikeportland.org/2009/11/23/news-analysis-bta-at-a-turning-point-with-or-without-bricker-26324#comment-1500119</link>
		<dc:creator>BikePortland.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; BTA: No comment on Poyourow resignation rumor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] true, the timing could not be worse. The BTA is still without an executive director and Poyourow is their most veteran staffer (she was hired in 2003 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] true, the timing could not be worse. The BTA is still without an executive director and Poyourow is their most veteran staffer (she was hired in 2003 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jami</title>
		<link>http://bikeportland.org/2009/11/23/news-analysis-bta-at-a-turning-point-with-or-without-bricker-26324#comment-1473682</link>
		<dc:creator>jami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful article -- tons of context.  I don&#039;t know if Bricker was just standing with the BTA board or if he personally supported the bike sales tax and a 12-lane freeway bridge as head of a bike advocacy organization.  I assume that his heart is in the right place, even if, in this capacity, he supported some misguided policies.  

We need leaders who have not internalized the notion that cars are the norm and cyclists should be happy for any scrap they get.  I hope the BTA gets back to fighting effectively for things like our fair share of transportation funding, the Idaho stop law, and stiff prosecution for drivers who injure and kill people through carelessness.  

(And I hope Bricker finds the right job for him -- whatever the reason, firing a long-time loyal employee in a bad economy is kind of a jerk move.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful article -- tons of context.  I don't know if Bricker was just standing with the BTA board or if he personally supported the bike sales tax and a 12-lane freeway bridge as head of a bike advocacy organization.  I assume that his heart is in the right place, even if, in this capacity, he supported some misguided policies.  </p>
<p>We need leaders who have not internalized the notion that cars are the norm and cyclists should be happy for any scrap they get.  I hope the BTA gets back to fighting effectively for things like our fair share of transportation funding, the Idaho stop law, and stiff prosecution for drivers who injure and kill people through carelessness.  </p>
<p>(And I hope Bricker finds the right job for him -- whatever the reason, firing a long-time loyal employee in a bad economy is kind of a jerk move.)</p>
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		<title>By: matt picio</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt picio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elly (#18) - The Executive Director *is* staff, and is different from a &quot;director&quot;, as in the Board of Directors.  Directors are almost always unpaid (the IRS frowns on nonprofits paying the governing body).  Staff are paid, and the top staff position is the Executive Director.  Typically a large nonprofit (by &quot;large&quot;, I mean more than 10 employees) will have an ED, a Development Director, a Finance Director, and a Programming Director.  The titles may vary - all of those are staff positions, and none of them are &quot;directors&quot; in the sense of the directors who sit on the board (none of whom are staff).

Clear as mud, eh?

Your basic point is sound, however.  It&#039;s very rare for an ED to go to a lower staff position, and uncommon for a Director (i.e. board member) to become a staff person at the same nonprofit.

are (#22) - If you are a BTA member, I believe the BTA is required to allow you to see the Bylaws.  In any case, any member of the public can request to see the Form 1023 that the BTA filled out to become a 501(c)(3) by filling out a Form 4506-A and sending it to the IRS.  The Form 1023 is the form every nonprofit files to be recognized by the IRS, and as part of the submission MUST contain a copy of the organization&#039;s Bylaws.  The BTA also filed a form RF-C with the State of Oregon which also required a copy of the bylaws, you can also try contacting the Oregon Department of Justice, Corporation Division (which has an office in downtown Portland) to request a copy of that submittal.

The IRS form to request a 1023 can be found here:
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4506a.pdf

Peter Smith (#26) - Firing shouldn&#039;t be condoned?  Well, that&#039;s your opinion, and I respectfully disagree.  Sometimes people don&#039;t fit the organization.  Sometimes the organization&#039;s resources can be used more effectively under other leadership. (I&#039;m not saying either is the case here)  In fact, if either of those cases are true, the IRS practically mandates that the board fires the ED, or in the case of staff under the ED, makes that recommendation to the ED.  Directors have an obligation to ensure they are managing a public charity effectively and dutifully - they are REQUIRED to by state and federal law.

There&#039;s a lot more I could comment on in your post - judging by its tone, I&#039;d guess you&#039;ve never served on the board of a nonprofit.  Read some of the laws, and your state&#039;s guide to serving as a board member, and your perspective on some of this may change.

Seth (#29) - While I believe that the BTA should make the board meeting minutes publicly available (and maybe they do - I don&#039;t know their current policy), their board meetings should not be open, and the stories of the last couple days are evidence why - they&#039;d never get any work done at the meetings while trying to deal with well-meaning (and not so well-meaning) people making points, interrupting, etc.  Beyond a certain membership size and influence, it&#039;s impossible to make the meetings public.  Civil institutions like city councils and county commissions can do it, because they have police to arrest those who refuse to be orderly.  For a nonprofit, it&#039;s simply not practical.

As for point #2 - WashCo BTC isn&#039;t &quot;BTA&quot; because it would imply BTA endorsement.  If you have dozens of chapters (or even just 6), then the focus of the organization becomes managing all the chapters, and not in getting the work done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elly (#18) - The Executive Director *is* staff, and is different from a "director", as in the Board of Directors.  Directors are almost always unpaid (the IRS frowns on nonprofits paying the governing body).  Staff are paid, and the top staff position is the Executive Director.  Typically a large nonprofit (by "large", I mean more than 10 employees) will have an ED, a Development Director, a Finance Director, and a Programming Director.  The titles may vary - all of those are staff positions, and none of them are "directors" in the sense of the directors who sit on the board (none of whom are staff).</p>
<p>Clear as mud, eh?</p>
<p>Your basic point is sound, however.  It's very rare for an ED to go to a lower staff position, and uncommon for a Director (i.e. board member) to become a staff person at the same nonprofit.</p>
<p>are (#22) - If you are a BTA member, I believe the BTA is required to allow you to see the Bylaws.  In any case, any member of the public can request to see the Form 1023 that the BTA filled out to become a 501(c)(3) by filling out a Form 4506-A and sending it to the IRS.  The Form 1023 is the form every nonprofit files to be recognized by the IRS, and as part of the submission MUST contain a copy of the organization's Bylaws.  The BTA also filed a form RF-C with the State of Oregon which also required a copy of the bylaws, you can also try contacting the Oregon Department of Justice, Corporation Division (which has an office in downtown Portland) to request a copy of that submittal.</p>
<p>The IRS form to request a 1023 can be found here:<br />
<a href="http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4506a.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4506a.pdf</a></p>
<p>Peter Smith (#26) - Firing shouldn't be condoned?  Well, that's your opinion, and I respectfully disagree.  Sometimes people don't fit the organization.  Sometimes the organization's resources can be used more effectively under other leadership. (I'm not saying either is the case here)  In fact, if either of those cases are true, the IRS practically mandates that the board fires the ED, or in the case of staff under the ED, makes that recommendation to the ED.  Directors have an obligation to ensure they are managing a public charity effectively and dutifully - they are REQUIRED to by state and federal law.</p>
<p>There's a lot more I could comment on in your post - judging by its tone, I'd guess you've never served on the board of a nonprofit.  Read some of the laws, and your state's guide to serving as a board member, and your perspective on some of this may change.</p>
<p>Seth (#29) - While I believe that the BTA should make the board meeting minutes publicly available (and maybe they do - I don't know their current policy), their board meetings should not be open, and the stories of the last couple days are evidence why - they'd never get any work done at the meetings while trying to deal with well-meaning (and not so well-meaning) people making points, interrupting, etc.  Beyond a certain membership size and influence, it's impossible to make the meetings public.  Civil institutions like city councils and county commissions can do it, because they have police to arrest those who refuse to be orderly.  For a nonprofit, it's simply not practical.</p>
<p>As for point #2 - WashCo BTC isn't "BTA" because it would imply BTA endorsement.  If you have dozens of chapters (or even just 6), then the focus of the organization becomes managing all the chapters, and not in getting the work done.</p>
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		<title>By: Hart</title>
		<link>http://bikeportland.org/2009/11/23/news-analysis-bta-at-a-turning-point-with-or-without-bricker-26324#comment-1470997</link>
		<dc:creator>Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never understood why the BTA was criticized as being such a waste until now.  
Great analysis.  They fire the best advocate they had.  Time to throw them away, they don&#039;t care about what we care about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never understood why the BTA was criticized as being such a waste until now.<br />
Great analysis.  They fire the best advocate they had.  Time to throw them away, they don't care about what we care about.</p>
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		<title>By: rixtir</title>
		<link>http://bikeportland.org/2009/11/23/news-analysis-bta-at-a-turning-point-with-or-without-bricker-26324#comment-1470800</link>
		<dc:creator>rixtir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only that, but Rixtir truly appreciates the Search and Destroy reference...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only that, but Rixtir truly appreciates the Search and Destroy reference...</p>
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		<title>By: DFU</title>
		<link>http://bikeportland.org/2009/11/23/news-analysis-bta-at-a-turning-point-with-or-without-bricker-26324#comment-1470773</link>
		<dc:creator>DFU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rixtir #35 and I were apparently typing the same thought at basically the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rixtir #35 and I were apparently typing the same thought at basically the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: DFU</title>
		<link>http://bikeportland.org/2009/11/23/news-analysis-bta-at-a-turning-point-with-or-without-bricker-26324#comment-1470770</link>
		<dc:creator>DFU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a compelling argument can be made that bicycling in Portland - and certainly in Oregon - has become large enough, and complex enough, to merit two distinct organizations. 

One could be the BTA as we know it. The middle-of-the-road, never ruffle feathers, non-advocate (c)(3) organization. There is definitely a role for an organization like this. Bricker&#039;s skill set was tailor made for this role. 

The other could be a lean, mean (c)(4) machine. A street-walking cheetah with a heart full of napalm, to quote Iggy Pop. This is what the NRA does in parts of the country where they are relevant, e.g. rural Virginia, not Portland. It&#039;s all political and legal pressure all the time. 

The alternative to two distinct organizations is the Oregon Wild model: one brand with two legal entities, the (c)(3) educational non-profit and the (c)(4) political machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a compelling argument can be made that bicycling in Portland - and certainly in Oregon - has become large enough, and complex enough, to merit two distinct organizations. </p>
<p>One could be the BTA as we know it. The middle-of-the-road, never ruffle feathers, non-advocate (c)(3) organization. There is definitely a role for an organization like this. Bricker's skill set was tailor made for this role. </p>
<p>The other could be a lean, mean (c)(4) machine. A street-walking cheetah with a heart full of napalm, to quote Iggy Pop. This is what the NRA does in parts of the country where they are relevant, e.g. rural Virginia, not Portland. It's all political and legal pressure all the time. </p>
<p>The alternative to two distinct organizations is the Oregon Wild model: one brand with two legal entities, the (c)(3) educational non-profit and the (c)(4) political machine.</p>
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		<title>By: rixtir</title>
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		<dc:creator>rixtir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or what Seth said, #29...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or what Seth said, #29...</p>
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		<title>By: rixtir</title>
		<link>http://bikeportland.org/2009/11/23/news-analysis-bta-at-a-turning-point-with-or-without-bricker-26324#comment-1470766</link>
		<dc:creator>rixtir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as BTA is talking about restructuring:

Portland needs a local advocacy group. Oregon needs a statewide advocacy group. BTA is trying to be both, a Jack of all trades, master of none.

Solution:

1) BTA breaks up into two organizations:

One organization is a local advocacy group, focused solely on bicycle advocacy in the Portland area.

The other organization is a statewide advocacy group, structured as a confederacy of local advocacy groups, including the Portland advocacy group. The focus of the statewide organization would be statewide bicycle advocacy in Salem, as directed by the local advocacy groups.

2) A Bicycle PAC is formed to support pro-bicycle candidates and legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as BTA is talking about restructuring:</p>
<p>Portland needs a local advocacy group. Oregon needs a statewide advocacy group. BTA is trying to be both, a Jack of all trades, master of none.</p>
<p>Solution:</p>
<p>1) BTA breaks up into two organizations:</p>
<p>One organization is a local advocacy group, focused solely on bicycle advocacy in the Portland area.</p>
<p>The other organization is a statewide advocacy group, structured as a confederacy of local advocacy groups, including the Portland advocacy group. The focus of the statewide organization would be statewide bicycle advocacy in Salem, as directed by the local advocacy groups.</p>
<p>2) A Bicycle PAC is formed to support pro-bicycle candidates and legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: KWW</title>
		<link>http://bikeportland.org/2009/11/23/news-analysis-bta-at-a-turning-point-with-or-without-bricker-26324#comment-1470737</link>
		<dc:creator>KWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you should replace the main text of the article with the comments @26, Peter Smith&#039;s, no offense, but it doesn&#039;t dance around the issue like the main article did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you should replace the main text of the article with the comments @26, Peter Smith's, no offense, but it doesn't dance around the issue like the main article did.</p>
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